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Subject: Re: [Healeys] SU carb fuel pressure
From: warthodson--- via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2020 19:14:18 +0000 (UTC)
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Thanks for the several comments so far. The background for the inquiry is: =
A friend has an aftermarket fuel pump that delivers 7-10psi & a pressure re=
gulator set at 2 psi. He also has (3) HS6 carbs. The engine starts, idles &=
 runs fine until he stops & turns off the engine. Like at a gas station. Th=
en upon restarting it runs rough & won't idle unless he pulls the choke par=
tially out, I.E. fast idle, not richer mixture. We assume this is due to he=
at soaking &/or peculating fuel. I thought raising the pressure might help =
if the peculating was occurring before the float valve & wanted to know the=
 Max fuel pressure to this model SU. I doubt that it will have any effect. =
We are also interested in any suggestions you may have. Additional facts:hi=
s engine never gets over 190 F when running. He has an electric fan in addi=
tion to the original fan. he carbs are not running lean. I am told the timi=
ng is correct.=C2=A0
Thanks,Gary Hodson=C2=A0



-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
To: warthodson@aol.com; Austin Healey <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sun, Jun 14, 2020 12:45 pm
Subject: Re: [Healeys] SU carb fuel pressure

Gary--
2 to 4 psi is the common wisdom.=C2=A0=C2=A0
That said, I had a set of HS6's on the MGA engine in my (now-gone) Elva Cou=
rier and=C2=A0no amount of fiddling with floats, lid position, etc. would s=
olve a consistent fuel starvation problem when coming of=C2=A0hard, tight r=
ight-handers under full throttle as in turns 1 at VIR, Summit Point, etc.=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0I finally solved the=C2=A0problem by installing=C2=A0a Holly B=
lue (high-pressure fuel pump) and reducing pressure via a regulator to abou=
t 5.5-6 psi.=C2=A0 Dire predictions notwithstanding I never had an issue=C2=
=A0 with the floats' being overcome by that pressure and causing leaking.=
=C2=A0=C2=A0
I'm not saying anyone should go to such extremes without a good reason but =
I think the "common wisdom" is just=C2=A0that and not always gospel.=C2=A0=
=C2=A0
Best--Michael Oritt
On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 12:27 PM warthodson--- via Healeys <healeys@autox.t=
eam.net> wrote:

What is the Max recommended fuel pressure (psi) for SU HS 6=C2=A0 Carbs. Is=
 there=C2=A0 also a Min fuel pressure?Gary Hodson__________________________=
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<div style="color:black;font: 12pt Comic Sans MS, sans-serif;">Thanks for the 
several comments so far. The background for the inquiry is: A friend has an 
aftermarket fuel pump that delivers 7-10psi &amp; a pressure regulator set at 2 
psi. He also has (3) HS6 carbs. The engine starts, idles &amp; runs fine until 
he stops &amp; turns off the engine. Like at a gas station. Then upon 
restarting it runs rough &amp; won't idle unless he pulls the choke partially 
out, I.E. fast idle, not richer mixture. We assume this is due to heat soaking 
&amp;/or peculating fuel. I thought raising the pressure might help if the 
peculating was occurring before the float valve &amp; wanted to know the Max 
fuel pressure to this model SU. I doubt that it will have any effect. We are 
also interested in any suggestions you may have. Additional facts:
<div>his engine never gets over 190 F when running. He has an electric fan in 
addition to the original fan. he carbs are not running lean. I am told the 
timing is correct.&nbsp;</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div>Thanks,</div>

<div>Gary Hodson&nbsp;<br>

<div><br>
<br>
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style="font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black">-----Original 
Message-----<br>
From: Michael Oritt &lt;michael.oritt@gmail.com&gt;<br>
To: warthodson@aol.com; Austin Healey &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<br>
Sent: Sun, Jun 14, 2020 12:45 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] SU carb fuel pressure<br>
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<div class="yiv6584258867gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff;">Gary--</div>

<div class="yiv6584258867gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff;"><br 
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<div class="yiv6584258867gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff;">2 to 4 psi is 
the common wisdom.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div>

<div class="yiv6584258867gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff;"><br 
clear="none"></div>

<div class="yiv6584258867gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff;">That said, I had 
a set of HS6's on the MGA engine in my (now-gone) Elva Courier and&nbsp;no 
amount of fiddling with floats, lid position, etc. would solve a consistent 
fuel starvation problem when coming of&nbsp;hard, tight right-handers under 
full throttle as in turns 1 at VIR, Summit Point, etc.&nbsp; &nbsp;I finally 
solved the&nbsp;problem by installing&nbsp;a Holly Blue (high-pressure fuel 
pump) and reducing pressure via a regulator to about 5.5-6 psi.&nbsp; Dire 
predictions notwithstanding I never had an issue&nbsp; with the floats' being 
overcome by that pressure and causing leaking.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div>

<div class="yiv6584258867gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff;"><br 
clear="none"></div>

<div class="yiv6584258867gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff;">I'm not saying 
anyone should go to such extremes without a good reason but I think the "common 
wisdom" is just&nbsp;that and not always gospel.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div>

<div class="yiv6584258867gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff;"><br 
clear="none"></div>

<div class="yiv6584258867gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff;">Best--Michael 
Oritt</div>
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<div class="yiv6584258867gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 12:27 PM 
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<div style="color:black;font:12pt Sans sans-serif;">What is the Max recommended 
fuel pressure (psi) for SU HS 6&nbsp; Carbs. Is there&nbsp; also a Min fuel 
pressure?

<div>Gary Hodson</div>

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