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To: Mark Fawcett <m.fawcett@cox.net>, Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] LEDs should not be used for turn signal indicators?
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 I have converted the headlights in both my MGB GT and my Bugeye to LED wit=
h the economical system available from Little British Car Co. but left the =
turn signal incandescent.=C2=A0 NO muss, no fuss.=C2=A0 I intend on doing t=
he same to the BN2 when the time comes.=C2=A0 Right now the whole conversio=
n set is only $90, but they go on sale once in a while.=C2=A0 I must say th=
ey are very bright and I am super satisfied with them.=C2=A0 NFI, just a ve=
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    On Saturday, August 22, 2020, 7:52:01 PM PDT, Mark Fawcett <m.fawcett@c=
ox.net> wrote: =20
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 I've converted to LED turn signals and brake lights. I'm using the origina=
l flasher, but to avoid hyper flashing (blinkers flashing VERY fast) you ha=
ve to install LED light load resistors at all four corners. I didn't replac=
e the dash light and it seems to=C2=A0operate as normal (mostly).
Mark Fawcett1959 BT7
On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 3:06 PM Ron Fine <ronfineesq@earthlink.net> wrote:

I currently have a mix of LED and incandescent bulbs in my side marker lamp=
s so my traditional flasher unit works fine with the current draw from the =
halogen bulbs. =C2=A0I prefer the appearance of the original flasher can in=
 the engine bay.=C2=A0 I would like to increase the brightness of the bulb =
behind the green lens in the dash but Moss warns against using an LED there=
.=C2=A0 I am trying to understand why.=C2=A0 That bulb is fed from one wire=
 from the flasher that=C2=A0 goes no where else other than to ground.=C2=A0=
 I can=E2=80=99t figure out why an LED in that position would not work sinc=
e the other halogen bulbs provide sufficient current draw for the flasher t=
o work for the side marker or turn signal lights.=C2=A0 I can leave the exi=
sting halogen bulb there but I like to understand why things work or don=E2=
=80=99t.=C2=A0Thanks,=C2=A0Ron=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0From: i erbs Sent: Saturday=
, August 22, 2020 1:43 PMTo: Ron Fine Cc: Healey Mailing List Subject: Re: =
[Healeys] LEDs should not be used for turn signal indicators?=C2=A0use a so=
lid state flasher
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=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
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ousand adjustments. Mario Andretti
Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words=C2=A0

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=C2=A0On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 10:54 AM Ron Fine <ronfineesq@earthlink.net> =
wrote:

    Can someone explain to me why Moss catalog says =E2=80=9C=C2=A0LEDs sho=
uld not be used for turn signal indicators=E2=80=9D =C2=A0 I have already r=
eplaced my gage lighting with LED, which work great but I don=E2=80=99t kno=
w why the turn=C2=A0 signal indicator green colored light can=E2=80=99t als=
o be an LED.=C2=A0 It is simply an on-off light that should not be affected=
 by the lower current draw.=C2=A0 What am I missing here?=C2=A0 I am using =
the original flasher. =C2=A0 Thanks, =C2=A0 Ron Fine 61Bn7_________________=
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p; NO muss, no fuss.&nbsp; I intend on doing the same to the BN2 when the t=
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                    On Saturday, August 22, 2020, 7:52:01 PM PDT, Mark Fawc=
ett &lt;m.fawcett@cox.net&gt; wrote:
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                <div><div id=3D"yiv9790493750"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">I've c=
onverted to LED turn signals and brake lights. I'm using the original flash=
er, but to avoid hyper flashing (blinkers flashing VERY fast) you have to i=
nstall LED light load resistors at all four corners. I didn't replace the d=
ash light and it seems to&nbsp;operate as normal (mostly).<div><br clear=3D=
"none"></div><div>Mark Fawcett</div><div>1959 BT7</div></div><br clear=3D"n=
one"><div class=3D"yiv9790493750gmail_quote"><div class=3D"yiv9790493750yqt=
0820552597" id=3D"yiv9790493750yqt03018"><div class=3D"yiv9790493750gmail_a=
ttr" dir=3D"ltr">On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 3:06 PM Ron Fine &lt;<a rel=3D"nof=
ollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:ronfineesq@earthlink.net"; target=3D=
"_blank" href=3D"mailto:ronfineesq@earthlink.net";>ronfineesq@earthlink.net<=
/a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote class=3D"yiv9790493750gm=
ail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,=
204,204);padding-left:1ex;">
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<div>I currently have a mix of LED and incandescent bulbs in my side marker=
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lamps so my traditional flasher unit works fine with the current draw from =
the=20
halogen bulbs. </div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>I prefer the appearance of the original flasher can in the engine=20
bay.&nbsp; I would like to increase the brightness of the bulb behind the g=
reen=20
lens in the dash but Moss warns against using an LED there.&nbsp; I am tryi=
ng to=20
understand why.&nbsp; That bulb is fed from one wire from the flasher that&=
nbsp;=20
goes no where else other than to ground.&nbsp; I can=E2=80=99t figure out w=
hy an LED in=20
that position would not work since the other halogen bulbs provide sufficie=
nt=20
current draw for the flasher to work for the side marker or turn signal=20
lights.&nbsp; I can leave the existing halogen bulb there but I like to=20
understand why things work or don=E2=80=99t.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Ron</div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" title=3D"eyera3000@gma=
il.com">i=20
erbs</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, August 22, 2020 1:43 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" title=3D"ronfineesq@eart=
hlink.net">Ron Fine</a> </div>
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eam.net">Healey Mailing List</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] LEDs should not be used for turn signal=
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indicators?</div></div></div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">use a solid state flasher<br clear=3D"all">
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&lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect">ronfineesq@earthlink.net</a>&gt; wro=
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  <div>Can someone explain to me why Moss catalog says =E2=80=9C<span><font=
 style=3D"background-color: inherit;" color=3D"#636363"><span><font style=
=3D"font-size: 8.4pt; background-color: inherit;">&nbsp;</font></span><font=
 style=3D"font-size:8.4pt;">LEDs should not be used for turn signal=20
  indicators=E2=80=9D</font></font></span></div>
  <div><span><font style=3D"background-color: inherit;" color=3D"#636363"><=
/font></span>&nbsp;</div>
  <div><span><font style=3D"background-color: inherit;" color=3D"#636363">I=
 have already replaced my gage lighting with=20
  LED, which work great but I don=E2=80=99t know why the turn&nbsp; signal =
indicator=20
  green colored light can=E2=80=99t also be an LED.&nbsp; It is simply an o=
n-off light=20
  that should not be affected by the lower current draw.&nbsp; What am I mi=
ssing=20
  here?&nbsp; I am using the original flasher.</font></span></div>
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  <div><span><font style=3D"background-color: inherit;" color=3D"#636363">T=
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/font></span>&nbsp;</div>
  <div><span><font style=3D"background-color: inherit;" color=3D"#636363">R=
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