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=C2=A0 1. Re: [Healeys) 100-4 Heat Shield with Headers
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (larry@patersondesign.ca)
=C2=A0 2. Re: [Healeys) 100-4 Heat Shield with Headers (Michael Salter)
=C2=A0 3. Re: [Healeys) 100-4 Heat Shield with Headers (Charles Schott)
=C2=A0 4. Re: [Healeys) 100-4 Heat Shield with Headers (Bob Spidell)
=C2=A0 5. Changing my email address (John Harper)
I found that an oil cooler works well to keep motor cool as well as water =
wetter in the rad.=C2=A0 Mind you I also have a wrapped exhaust and standar=
d heat shield.=C2=A0 also I dont run a 100 fan but do have an electric one =
in front of the rad which is used occasionally.
Larry
On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 13:02:04 -0400 (EDT), Charles Schott via Healeys <heale=
ys@autox.team.net> wrote:
=C2=A0David,=C2=A0Forgot to mention that I'm running the 1 3/4 carbs. You c=
an see from the pictures the 4 bolt SU gaskets.=C2=A0Regards,=C2=A0CharlieF=
rom: "David Nock BCS" <healeydoc@sbcglobal.net>
To: "Charles Schott" <schottc@knology.net>, "Bob Spidell" <bspidell@comcast=
.net>
Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2020 10:05:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] [Healeys) 100-4 Heat Shield with Headers=C2=A0Which =
carbs are you running the 100. We have a heat shield available for the 100M=
=C2=A0 with the 1 3/4 carbs available.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0David Nock
healeydoc@sbcglobal.net
209 948 8767
www.britishcarspecialists.com=C2=A0Help us have our Founder Norman Nock ind=
ucteed into the
British Sportscar Hall of Fame, You can vote for your favorites
by visiting the site at.
www.britishsportscarhalloffame.org=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0From: Charles Schott vi=
a HealeysSent: Monday, September 14, 2020 6:44 AMTo: Bob SpidellCc: healeys=
@autox.team.netSubject: Re: [Healeys] [Healeys) 100-4 Heat Shield with Head=
ers=C2=A0Bob,=C2=A0I did wrap the headers but I'm a belt and suspenders typ=
e of guy. Never intended it to be that much work, but once I started, I was=
n't going to quit on it. I'm also going to install the triangular vents int=
o the front wings which should help expel the heat. And I built a false flo=
or on the driver's side to provide an air space that will act as an insulat=
or. It gets hot in Florida.=C2=A0Regards,=C2=A0Charlie=C2=A0From: "Bob Spid=
ell via Healeys" <healeys@autox.team.net>
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2020 11:31:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] [Healeys) 100-4 Heat Shield with Headers=C2=A0Well d=
one, but I gotta ask, why not just wrap the headers?=C2=A0=C2=A0On 9/13/202=
0 8:42 PM, Ray Juncal via Healeys wrote:
Wow, you had fun making that. Nice work.=C2=A0On Sunday, September 13, 2020=
, 3:38:08 PM PDT, Charles Schott via Healeys mailto:healeys@autox.team.net =
wrote:=C2=A0=C2=A0After one more modification, the fifth one, to eliminate =
interference with the vacuum hose fitting, I can continue with mounting the=
carbs. Some, including me, might say it's been over engineered.=C2=A0Regar=
ds,=C2=A0Charlie=C2=A0=C2=A0
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=C2=A0 I have had exactly the same results as Bob, as in "no noticeable cha=
nge in temperature" despite those mods.
M
On Mon., Sep. 14, 2020, 12:21 p.m. Bob Spidell, <bspidell@comcast.net> wrot=
e:
Yeah, I've heard that too (usually from the 'hot rod guys'). I wrapped my=
BJ8's downpipes about 8yrs/40K or so miles ago, and when I rebuilt the eng=
ine 3 years ago I checked them; no evidence of any degradation.
=20
My thinking: Rust is, of course, oxidation. Water does not rust metal, it =
facilitates oxidation by providing a medium for electron transfer between t=
he oxygen in the air and the iron in steel. Manifolds, downpipes and header=
s get hot enough that the water in the exhaust gasses stays vaporized (unti=
l shutdown). It cools and pools in the pipes and mufflers, which rust from =
the inside out. What's unclear to me is how wrap, or ceramic coating, which=
should theoretically keep more heat in the system affects the steel. I wou=
ld expect some embrittlement from the heat cycling, but haven't seen it (ye=
t).=20
=20
FWIW, I had my exhaust manifold ceramic coated (Jet Hot) and downpipes wra=
pped, and didn't notice much, if any cooler running (I was disappointed). T=
he side vents seem like they would help but, curiously, my BJ8 and BN2/100M=
behave exactly the same WRT engine temps. I expected the louvered bonnet t=
o help prevent overheating, esp. at idle but ... nope.
=20
Bob
=20
=20
On 9/14/2020 7:56 AM, Michael Oritt wrote:
=20
Common wisdom isthatexhaust wrapped to rusting out.=C2=A0 it took 15 years=
to happen on my car and I am not convinced even now that the wrap promoted=
or hastened the process.=20
Best--Michael Oritt=C2=A0 =20
On Mon, Sep 14, 2020, 10:16 AM Charles Schott via Healeys <healeys@autox.=
team.net> wrote:
=20
Bob,=20
I did wrap the headers but I'm a belt and suspenders type of guy. Never i=
ntended it to be that much work, but once I started, I wasn't going to quit=
on it. I'm also going to install the triangular vents into the front wings=
which should help expel the heat. And I built a false floor on the driver'=
s side to provide an air space that will act as an insulator. It gets hot i=
n Florida.=20
Regards,=20
Charlie=20
From: "Bob Spidell via Healeys" <healeys@autox.team.net>
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2020 11:31:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] [Healeys) 100-4 Heat Shield with Headers
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Well done, but I gotta ask, why not just wrap the headers?
=20
=20
On 9/13/2020 8:42 PM, Ray Juncal via Healeys wrote:
=20
Wow, you had fun making that. Nice work.
=20
On Sunday, September 13, 2020, 3:38:08 PM PDT, Charles Schott via Hea=
leys <healeys@autox.team.net> wrote: =20
=20
After one more modification, the fifth one, to eliminate interference=
with the vacuum hose fitting, I can continue with mounting the carbs. Some=
, including me, might say it's been over engineered.=20
Regards,=20
Charlie=20
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This car was not running when I bought it so I don't know how much differen=
ce the modifications will make.
Regards,
Charlie
From: "Michael Salter" <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
To: "Bob Spidell" <bspidell@comcast.net>
Cc: "Austin Healey" <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2020 5:10:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] [Healeys) 100-4 Heat Shield with Headers
I have had exactly the same results as Bob, as in "no noticeable change in =
temperature" despite those mods.
M
On Mon., Sep. 14, 2020, 12:21 p.m. Bob Spidell, <bspidell@comcast.net> wrot=
e:
Yeah, I've heard that too (usually from the 'hot rod guys'). I wrapped my B=
J8's downpipes about 8yrs/40K or so miles ago, and when I rebuilt the engin=
e 3 years ago I checked them; no evidence of any degradation.
=20
My thinking: Rust is, of course, oxidation. Water does not rust metal, it =
facilitates oxidation by providing a medium for electron transfer between t=
he oxygen in the air and the iron in steel. Manifolds, downpipes and header=
s get hot enough that the water in the exhaust gasses stays vaporized (unti=
l shutdown). It cools and pools in the pipes and mufflers, which rust from =
the inside out. What's unclear to me is how wrap, or ceramic coating, which=
should theoretically keep more heat in the system affects the steel. I wou=
ld expect some embrittlement from the heat cycling, but haven't seen it (ye=
t).=20
=20
FWIW, I had my exhaust manifold ceramic coated (Jet Hot) and downpipes wra=
pped, and didn't notice much, if any cooler running (I was disappointed). T=
he side vents seem like they would help but, curiously, my BJ8 and BN2/100M=
behave exactly the same WRT engine temps. I expected the louvered bonnet t=
o help prevent overheating, esp. at idle but ... nope.
=20
Bob
=20
=20
On 9/14/2020 7:56 AM, Michael Oritt wrote:
Common wisdom isthatexhaust wrapped to rusting out.=C2=A0 it took 15 years =
to happen on my car and I am not convinced even now that the wrap promoted =
or hastened the process.
Best--Michael Oritt=C2=A0
On Mon, Sep 14, 2020, 10:16 AM Charles Schott via Healeys <healeys@autox.te=
am.net> wrote:
Bob,
I did wrap the headers but I'm a belt and suspenders type of guy. Never int=
ended it to be that much work, but once I started, I wasn't going to quit o=
n it. I'm also going to install the triangular vents into the front wings w=
hich should help expel the heat. And I built a false floor on the driver's =
side to provide an air space that will act as an insulator. It gets hot in =
Florida.
Regards,
Charlie
From: "Bob Spidell via Healeys" <healeys@autox.team.net>
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2020 11:31:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] [Healeys) 100-4 Heat Shield with Headers
Well done, but I gotta ask, why not just wrap the headers?
=20
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On 9/13/2020 8:42 PM, Ray Juncal via Healeys wrote:
Wow, you had fun making that. Nice work.
On Sunday, September 13, 2020, 3:38:08 PM PDT, Charles Schott via Healeys <=
healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
After one more modification, the fifth one, to eliminate interference with =
the vacuum hose fitting, I can continue with mounting the carbs. Some, incl=
uding me, might say it's been over engineered.
Regards,
Charlie
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Charlie,
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Sounds like you found the 'secret sauce.' Can I have some?
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Bob
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On 9/14/2020 9:54 AM, Charles Schott wrote:
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Bob,=20
I restored a 1960 BT7 about seven years ago with no special treatment to =
the exhaust system and it's never overheated here in Florida. That was a st=
ainless steel system so I don't worry about the rust.=20
By the way, I'm adding a Le Mans kit to my 100-4 and will have it in the =
100M registry.=20
Regards,=20
Charlie=20
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Mark
After many years I am giving up the post of the=C2=A0British austin-healey =
club 100 register, but would still wish to have emails from the forum.
Is it possible for you to delete
ah100register@gmail.com=C2=A0=C2=A0
and replace it with
ah100tech@gmail.com=C2=A0=C2=A0
It is some time since I made a contribution for all your work. If you would=
like to make a suggestion, I would pay by paypal as here we have pounds st=
erling
Best wishes
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[Healeys) 100-4 Heat Shield with Headers<br> (<a href=
=3D"mailto:larry@patersondesign.ca"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">larr=
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Headers (Michael Salter)<br> 3. Re: [Healeys) 100-4 Heat Shield wit=
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l;font-size:12pt;color:#000000;">I found that an oil cooler works well to k=
eep motor cool as well as water wetter in the rad. Mind you I also ha=
ve a wrapped exhaust and standard heat shield. also I dont run a 100 =
fan but do have an electric one in front of the rad which is used occasiona=
lly.<br>
<br>
Larry
<br>
<br>
<span>On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 13:02:04 -0400 (EDT), Charles Schott via Healeys =
<healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:</span><br>
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<div>David,</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Forgot to mention that I'm running the 1 3/4 carbs. You can see from t=
he pictures the 4 bolt SU gaskets.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Regards,</div>
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<div>Charlie</div>
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on:none;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><b>From: =
</b>"David Nock BCS" <healeydoc@sbcglobal.net><br>
<b>To: </b>"Charles Schott" <schottc@knology.net>, "Bob Spidell" <=
bspidell@comcast.net><br>
<b>Cc: </b>healeys@autox.team.net<br>
<b>Sent: </b>Monday, September 14, 2020 10:05:54 AM<br>
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<div>Which carbs are you running the 100. We have a heat shield available f=
or the 100M with the 1 3/4 carbs available.</div>
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<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Century';COLOR:#000000;">David No=
ck<br>
healeydoc@sbcglobal.net<br>
209 948 8767<br>
www.britishcarspecialists.com
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<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] [Healeys) 100-4 Heat Shield with Headers=
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<div>Bob,</div>
<div> </div>
<div>I did wrap the headers but I'm a belt and suspenders type of guy. Neve=
r intended it to be that much work, but once I started, I wasn't going to q=
uit on it. I'm also going to install the triangular vents into the front wi=
ngs which should help expel the heat. And I built a false floor on the driv=
er's side to provide an air space that will act as an insulator. It gets ho=
t in Florida.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Regards,</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Charlie</div>
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ial, sans-serif;FONT-WEIGHT:normal;COLOR:#000;FONT-STYLE:normal;"><b>From: =
</b>"Bob Spidell via Healeys" <healeys@autox.team.net><br>
<b>To: </b>healeys@autox.team.net<br>
<b>Sent: </b>Sunday, September 13, 2020 11:31:10 PM<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] [Healeys) 100-4 Heat Shield with Headers
<div> </div>
Well done, but I gotta ask, why not just wrap the headers?
<div> </div>
<div class=3D"ydpbea38f5cyiv3807360639moz-cite-prefix">On 9/13/2020 8:42 PM=
, Ray Juncal via Healeys wrote:</div>
<blockquote>
<div class=3D"ydpbea38f5cyiv3807360639ydpe34fff71yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D=
"FONT-SIZE:16px;FONT-FAMILY:helvetica neue, helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Wow, you had fun making that. Nice work.</div>
<div> </div>
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<div class=3D"ydpbea38f5cyiv3807360639ydpe32942ddyahoo_quoted" id=3D"ydpbea=
38f5cyiv3807360639ydpe32942ddyahoo_quoted_0886130810">
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:13px;FONT-FAMILY:'Helvetica Neue', helvetica, arial=
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<div>On Sunday, September 13, 2020, 3:38:08 PM PDT, Charles Schott via Heal=
eys <a class=3D"ydpbea38f5cyiv3807360639moz-txt-link-rfc2396E">mailto:heale=
ys@autox.team.net</a> wrote:</div>
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<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:times new roman, new york, times, =
serif;COLOR:#000000;">
<div>After one more modification, the fifth one, to eliminate interference =
with the vacuum hose fitting, I can continue with mounting the carbs. Some,=
including me, might say it's been over engineered.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Regards,</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Charlie</div>
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</div></div></div><div id=3D"ydpbea38f5cymsg33519" class=3D"ydpbea38f5cymsg=
0362387807"><div id=3D"ydpbea38f5cyiv3807360639"><div>I have had exactly th=
e same results as Bob, as in "no noticeable change in temperature" despite =
those mods.<div><br></div><div>M</div></div><br><div class=3D"ydpbea38f5cyi=
v3807360639gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"ydpbea38f5cyiv3807360639g=
mail_attr">On Mon., Sep. 14, 2020, 12:21 p.m. Bob Spidell, <<a href=3D"m=
ailto:bspidell@comcast.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">bspidell@com=
cast.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"ydpbea38f5cyiv3807360=
639gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;paddi=
ng-left:1ex;">
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<div>
Yeah, I've heard that too (usually from the 'hot rod guys'). I
wrapped my BJ8's downpipes about 8yrs/40K or so miles ago, and when
I rebuilt the engine 3 years ago I checked them; no evidence of any
degradation.<br>
<br>
My thinking: Rust is, of course, oxidation. Water does not rust
metal, it facilitates oxidation by providing a medium for electron
transfer between the oxygen in the air and the iron in steel.
Manifolds, downpipes and headers get hot enough that the water in
the exhaust gasses stays vaporized (until shutdown). It cools and
pools in the pipes and mufflers, which rust from the inside out.
What's unclear to me is how wrap, or ceramic coating, which should
theoretically keep more heat in the system affects the steel. I
would expect some embrittlement from the heat cycling, but haven't
seen it (yet). <br>
<br>
FWIW, I had my exhaust manifold ceramic coated (Jet Hot) and
downpipes wrapped, and didn't notice much, if any cooler running (I
was disappointed). The side vents seem like they would help but,
curiously, my BJ8 and BN2/100M behave exactly the same WRT engine
temps. I expected the louvered bonnet to help prevent overheating,
esp. at idle but ... nope.<br>
<br>
Bob<br>
<br>
<br>
<div>On 9/14/2020 7:56 AM, Michael Oritt
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
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<div>Common wisdom isthatexhaust wrapped to rusting
out. it took 15 years to happen on my car and I am not
convinced even now that the wrap promoted or hastened the
process.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Best--Michael Oritt </div>
</div>
<br>
<div class=3D"ydpbea38f5cyiv3807360639gmail_quote">
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"ydpbea38f5cyiv3807360639gmail_attr">On Mo=
n, Sep 14, 2020, 10:16 AM
Charles Schott via Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.te=
am.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class=3D"ydpbea38f5cyiv3807360639gmail_quote" style=3D"=
margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div>
<div style=3D"font-family:times new roman, new york, times, ser=
if;font-size:12pt;color:#000000;">
<div>Bob,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I did wrap the headers but I'm a belt and suspenders
type of guy. Never intended it to be that much work, but
once I started, I wasn't going to quit on it. I'm also
going to install the triangular vents into the front
wings which should help expel the heat. And I built a
false floor on the driver's side to provide an air space
that will act as an insulator. It gets hot in Florida.</div=
>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Regards,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Charlie</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<hr id=3D"ydpbea38f5cyiv3807360639m_-1626287184057819499m_514=
4250852966861597zwchr">
<div style=3D"color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal=
;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:12=
pt;"><b>From:
</b>"Bob Spidell via Healeys" <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys=
@autox.team.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net<=
/a>><br>
<b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D=
"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Sunday, September 13, 2020 11:31:10 PM<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] [Healeys) 100-4 Heat
Shield with Headers<br>
<div><br>
</div>
Well done, but I gotta ask, why not just wrap the
headers?<br>
<br>
<br>
<div>On 9/13/2020 8:42 PM, Ray Juncal via Healeys wrote:<br=
>
</div>
<blockquote>
<div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Aria=
l, sans-serif;font-size:16px;">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Wow, you had fun making that. Nice
work.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
</div>
<div id=3D"ydpbea38f5cyiv3807360639m_-1626287184057819499=
m_5144250852966861597ydpe32942ddyahoo_quoted_0886130810">
<div>
<div> On Sunday, September 13, 2020, 3:38:08 PM
PDT, Charles Schott via Healeys <a href=3D"mailto:h=
ealeys@autox.team.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank"><healeys@autox=
.team.net></a>
wrote: </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<div id=3D"ydpbea38f5cyiv3807360639m_-1626287184057=
819499m_5144250852966861597ydpe32942ddyiv5409415901">
<div>
<div style=3D"font-family:times new roman, new =
york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;color:#000000;">
<div>After one more modification, the
fifth one, to eliminate interference
with the vacuum hose fitting, I can
continue with mounting the carbs. Some,
including me, might say it's been over
engineered.</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>Regards,</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>Charlie</div>
<br>
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</div>
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pbea38f5cymsg0362387807"><div id=3D"ydpbea38f5cyiv3807360639"><div><div sty=
le=3D"font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;co=
lor:#000000;"><div>This car was not running when I bought it so I don't kno=
w how much difference the modifications will make.</div><div><br></div><div=
>Regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Charlie</div><div><br></div><hr id=3D"yd=
pbea38f5cyiv3807360639zwchr"><div style=3D"color:#000;font-weight:normal;fo=
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if;font-size:12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Michael Salter" <michaelsalter@gmail.c=
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/b>"Austin Healey" <healeys@autox.team.net><br><b>Sent: </b>Monday, S=
eptember 14, 2020 5:10:33 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] [Healeys) 100=
-4 Heat Shield with Headers<br><div><br></div><div>I have had exactly the s=
ame results as Bob, as in "no noticeable change in temperature" despite tho=
se mods.<div><br></div><div>M</div></div><br><div class=3D"ydpbea38f5cyiv38=
07360639gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"ydpbea38f5cyiv3807360639gmai=
l_attr">On Mon., Sep. 14, 2020, 12:21 p.m. Bob Spidell, <<a href=3D"mail=
to:bspidell@comcast.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">bspidell@comcas=
t.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"ydpbea38f5cyiv3807360639=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-=
left:1ex;"><div>Yeah, I've heard that too (usually from the 'hot rod guys')=
. I wrapped my BJ8's downpipes about 8yrs/40K or so miles ago, and when I r=
ebuilt the engine 3 years ago I checked them; no evidence of any degradatio=
n.<br> <br> My thinking: Rust is, of course, oxidation. Water does not rust=
metal, it facilitates oxidation by providing a medium for electron transfe=
r between the oxygen in the air and the iron in steel. Manifolds, downpipes=
and headers get hot enough that the water in the exhaust gasses stays vapo=
rized (until shutdown). It cools and pools in the pipes and mufflers, which=
rust from the inside out. What's unclear to me is how wrap, or ceramic coa=
ting, which should theoretically keep more heat in the system affects the s=
teel. I would expect some embrittlement from the heat cycling, but haven't =
seen it (yet). <br> <br> FWIW, I had my exhaust manifold ceramic coated (Je=
t Hot) and downpipes wrapped, and didn't notice much, if any cooler running=
(I was disappointed). The side vents seem like they would help but, curiou=
sly, my BJ8 and BN2/100M behave exactly the same WRT engine temps. I expect=
ed the louvered bonnet to help prevent overheating, esp. at idle but ... no=
pe.<br> <br> Bob<br> <br> <br><div>On 9/14/2020 7:56 AM, Michael Oritt wrot=
e:<br></div><blockquote><div>Common wisdom isthatexhaust wrapped to rusting=
out. it took 15 years to happen on my car and I am not convinced eve=
n now that the wrap promoted or hastened the process.<div><br></div><div>Be=
st--Michael Oritt </div></div><br><div class=3D"ydpbea38f5cyiv38073606=
39gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"ydpbea38f5cyiv3807360639gmail_attr=
">On Mon, Sep 14, 2020, 10:16 AM Charles Schott via Healeys <<a href=3D"=
mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">healeys@a=
utox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"ydpbea38f5cyiv38=
07360639gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;=
padding-left:1ex;"><div><div style=3D"font-family:times new roman, new york=
, times, serif;font-size:12pt;color:#000000;"><div>Bob,</div><div><br></div=
><div>I did wrap the headers but I'm a belt and suspenders type of guy. Nev=
er intended it to be that much work, but once I started, I wasn't going to =
quit on it. I'm also going to install the triangular vents into the front w=
ings which should help expel the heat. And I built a false floor on the dri=
ver's side to provide an air space that will act as an insulator. It gets h=
ot in Florida.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div><br></div><div>C=
harlie</div><div><br></div><hr id=3D"ydpbea38f5cyiv3807360639m_-16262871840=
57819499m_5144250852966861597zwchr"><div style=3D"color:#000;font-weight:no=
rmal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, s=
ans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Bob Spidell via Healeys" <<a hr=
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team.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>=
<b>Sent: </b>Sunday, September 13, 2020 11:31:10 PM<br> <b>Subject: </b>Re=
: [Healeys] [Healeys) 100-4 Heat Shield with Headers<br><div><br></div>Well=
done, but I gotta ask, why not just wrap the headers?<br> <br> <br><div>On=
9/13/2020 8:42 PM, Ray Juncal via Healeys wrote:<br></div><blockquote><div=
style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-siz=
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><div><br></div></div><div id=3D"ydpbea38f5cyiv3807360639m_-162628718405781=
9499m_5144250852966861597ydpe32942ddyahoo_quoted_0886130810"><div><div>On S=
unday, September 13, 2020, 3:38:08 PM PDT, Charles Schott via Healeys <a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank"><=
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div><div id=3D"ydpbea38f5cyiv3807360639m_-1626287184057819499m_514425085296=
6861597ydpe32942ddyiv5409415901"><div><div style=3D"font-family:times new r=
oman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;color:#000000;"><div>After one =
more modification, the fifth one, to eliminate interference with the vacuum=
hose fitting, I can continue with mounting the carbs. Some, including me, =
might say it's been over engineered.</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><di=
v>Regards,</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Charlie</div><br></div><=
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Charlie,<br>
<br>
Sounds like you found the 'secret sauce.' Can I have some?<br>
<br>
Bob<br>
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<div class=3D"ydpbea38f5cyiv3807360639moz-cite-prefix">On 9/14/2020 9:5=
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<div>Bob,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I restored a 1960 BT7 about seven years ago with no special
treatment to the exhaust system and it's never overheated here
in Florida. That was a stainless steel system so I don't worry
about the rust.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>By the way, I'm adding a Le Mans kit to my 100-4 and will
have it in the 100M registry.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Regards,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Charlie</div>
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<div><br><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">It is some time since I made a c=
ontribution for all your work. If you would like to make a suggestion, I wo=
uld pay by paypal as here we have pounds sterling</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br=
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