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To: Ray Juncal <healeyray@yahoo.com>, "healeys@autox.team.net" <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] S U fuel pump
From: Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2020 20:01:50 +0200
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Ray,

No problem selling them, however shipping from NL is another matter. At 
least $14 without T&T, with T&T $36. Better try ebay, e.g.:

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10PC-1-5KE18CA-DO-201AD-bidirectional-TVS-diode-transient-suppression/153876305746?hash=item23d3be1752:g:BIcAAOSwKAJeeuw0

Just over a$1 for 10 incl. shipping!!.

Kees Oudesluijs



Op 20-10-2020 om 19:48 schreef Ray Juncal:
> Thanks guys for the great info, the power of the list is amazing. 
> Kees, you want to sell me three of those transils? Saves me from 
> poking around on ebay.
> Thanks again
> Ray
>
>
> On Tuesday, October 20, 2020, 9:17:57 AM PDT, Kees Oudesluijs via 
> Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
> Bob,
>
> Did you fit the transil in the same way the diode was fitted? If so 
> this is not correct. It should be fitted as the capacitor is fitted, 
> between the small screw that holds the points blade and one of the 
> bigger screws that fix the Bakelite bridge to the coil body. You can 
> fit the transil instead of the capacitor or parallel to the capacitor. 
> A diode is fitted in series with the points, a transil or capacitor is 
> fitted over the points.
>
> Kees Oudesluijs
>
> Op 20-10-2020 om 17:18 schreef Bob Spidell:
> The late Dave DuBois, who designed the transistor-switch fix, quit 
> doing the conversions when he found the reduced voltage cross the 
> points allowed them to oxidize. I tried the transil fix, but didn't 
> get much more longevity than a stock points setup with a diode; I do 
> know some have had better luck with them.
>
> I have a points/diode pump in my BN2 that works well, but I only have 
> a few hundred miles in the car. I've lost track of what I've got in my 
> BJ8.
>
> Bob
>
> On 10/19/2020 11:31 PM, Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys wrote:
>
> When rebuilding SU electrical fuel pumps I ad a transil (e.g.. 1.5 
> KE18CA) over the points, parallel or in stead of the capacitor if 
> fitted. This reduces the max voltage across the points to 18V instead 
> of several hundreds when the contact is broken and the points spark.
>
> It is also important to clean and polish the points using flower paper 
> (2-3000 grid), also when new!!
>
> A transil is more or less a bi-directional Zener diode. They cost next 
> to nothing. I buy them in bulk and pay about $0,15 but when buying 
> only one expect to pay between $1 and $5. Ebay is an excellent way to 
> source transils (mainly from China).
>
> A transistor circuit similar to those used in early transistorised 
> ignition systems does a similar job by limiting the current through 
> the points
>
> Kees Oudesluijs
>
>
>
> Op 20-10-2020 om 07:50 schreef Ray Juncal via Healeys:
> I'm rebuilding a couple of early S. U. fuel pumps for my 100. In 
> checking my reference files I came across an article from the MG club 
> about adding a transistor circuit to reduce the amps across the 
> points. That would keep the points from burning and extend the life of 
> the points. Has anyone on the list tried this? The author of the 
> article claims he has 20,000 miles on the conversion and new looking 
> contact points. Thoughts, comments, suggestions.....
> Regards
> Ray
>
>
>
>
>
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    <p>Ray,</p>
    <p>No problem selling them, however shipping from NL is another
      matter. At least $14 without T&amp;T, with T&amp;T $36. Better try
      ebay, e.g.: <br>
    </p>
    <p><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" 
href="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10PC-1-5KE18CA-DO-201AD-bidirectional-TVS-diode-transient-suppression/153876305746?hash=item23d3be1752:g:BIcAAOSwKAJeeuw0";>www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10PC-1-5KE18CA-DO-201AD-bidirectional-TVS-diode-transient-suppression/153876305746?hash=item23d3be1752:g:BIcAAOSwKAJeeuw0</a></p>
    <p>Just over a$1 for 10 incl. shipping!!.</p>
    <p>Kees Oudesluijs</p>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Op 20-10-2020 om 19:48 schreef Ray
      Juncal:<br>
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        <div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Thanks guys for the great
          info, the power of the list is amazing. Kees, you want to sell
          me three of those transils? Saves me from poking around on
          ebay.</div>
        <div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Thanks again</div>
        <div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Ray<br>
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          <div> On Tuesday, October 20, 2020, 9:17:57 AM PDT, Kees
            Oudesluijs via Healeys <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>&lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;</a> wrote:
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                <p>Did you fit the transil in the same way the diode was
                  fitted? If so this is not correct. It should be fitted
                  as the capacitor is fitted, between the small screw
                  that holds the points blade and one of the bigger
                  screws that fix the Bakelite bridge to the coil body.
                  You can fit the transil instead of the capacitor or
                  parallel to the capacitor. A diode is fitted in series
                  with the points, a transil or capacitor is fitted over
                  the points.<br clear="none">
                </p>
                <p>Kees Oudesluijs<br clear="none">
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                    20-10-2020 om 17:18 schreef Bob Spidell:<br
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              <div class="ydp58ac49f2yiv7447572965yqt9890308802"
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                <div> The late Dave DuBois, who designed the
                  transistor-switch fix, quit doing the conversions when
                  he found the reduced voltage cross the points allowed
                  them to oxidize. I tried the transil fix, but didn't
                  get much more longevity than a stock points setup with
                  a diode; I do know some have had better luck with
                  them.<br clear="none">
                  <br clear="none">
                  I have a points/diode pump in my BN2 that works well,
                  but I only have a few hundred miles in the car. I've
                  lost track of what I've got in my BJ8.<br clear="none">
                  <br clear="none">
                  Bob<br clear="none">
                  <br clear="none">
                  <div class="ydp58ac49f2yiv7447572965moz-cite-prefix">On
                    10/19/2020 11:31 PM, Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys
                    wrote:<br clear="none">
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                  <blockquote type="cite"> </blockquote>
                </div>
                <div>
                  <p>When rebuilding SU electrical fuel pumps I ad a
                    transil (e.g.. 1.5 KE18CA) over the points, parallel
                    or in stead of the capacitor if fitted. This reduces
                    the max voltage across the points to 18V instead of
                    several hundreds when the contact is broken and the
                    points spark. <br clear="none">
                  </p>
                  <p>It is also important to clean and polish the points
                    using flower paper (2-3000 grid), also when new!!</p>
                  <p>A transil is more or less a bi-directional Zener
                    diode. They cost next to nothing. I buy them in bulk
                    and pay about $0,15 but when buying only one expect 
                    to pay between $1 and $5. Ebay is an excellent way
                    to source transils (mainly from China).</p>
                  <p>A transistor circuit similar to those used in early
                    transistorised ignition systems does a similar job
                    by limiting the current through the points<br
                      clear="none">
                  </p>
                  <p>Kees Oudesluijs</p>
                  <p><br clear="none">
                  </p>
                  <p><br clear="none">
                  </p>
                  <div class="ydp58ac49f2yiv7447572965moz-cite-prefix">Op
                    20-10-2020 om 07:50 schreef Ray Juncal via Healeys:<br
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                    <div dir="ltr">I'm rebuilding a couple of early S.
                      U. fuel pumps for my 100. In checking my reference
                      files I came across an article from the MG club
                      about adding a transistor circuit to reduce the
                      amps across the points. That would keep the points
                      from burning and extend the life of the points.
                      Has anyone on the list tried this? The author of
                      the article claims he has 20,000 miles on the
                      conversion and new looking contact points.
                      Thoughts, comments, suggestions.....<br
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                    <div dir="ltr">Regards</div>
                    <div dir="ltr">Ray<br clear="none">
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