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Re: [Healeys] FW: My 100-6 1957

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Subject: Re: [Healeys] FW: My 100-6 1957
From: "BJ8Healeys" <sbyers@ec.rr.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2020 14:23:15 -0500
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Listers:  it would be helpful if you would also Cc your response to the =
person who is asking for the information (matt4211@verizon.net) so that =
I do not have to forward it to him individually.

He is not a member of this list and does not automatically receive your =
responses.  I thought we could provide the information he is requesting =
without the need for him to sign up on the list first.  He may decide to =
do so (or not) based on what help he receives.

=20

Thank you!

Steve Byers

HBJ8L/36666

BJ8 Registry

AHCA Delegate at Large

Havelock, NC  USA

=20

From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kees =
Oudesluijs via Healeys
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2020 1:34 PM
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] FW: My 100-6 1957

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The Amp gauge should not have a shunt resistor. The rating should be =
compatible with the output of the generator. Mostly 20A or 30A. If you =
have an uprated generator you should replace the Amp gauge with a 50A, =
60A or 80A gauge, depending on output. Make sure the wiring is up to =
these amperages. You cannot damage the gauge when you have connected it =
up the wrong way. It will just read charge instead of discharge v.v. The =
can be rectified by changing over the wires. There are no pos. or neg. =
earth versions. An Amp gauge is fitted in the main supply cable, usually =
brown, but should exclude the starter motor circuit.

Most were Lucas branded but there are a few SMITHS and JAEGER branded =
ones. They are all identical technically as they were all made by the =
same manufacturer.=20

A much safer option is fitting a Voltage gauge which is fitted standard =
in cars with an alternator. This is just wired to the accessory terminal =
of the ignition switch. It will give you the same information.

Kees Oudesluijs

=20

=20

Op 6-11-2020 om 18:53 schreef cjerryadams--- via Healeys:

A wiring schematic would be very helpful. Moss has reprints of factory =
service manuals. Also someone has large 11=E2=80=9Dx17=E2=80=9D =
laminated schematic with proper colors of wring offered. =20

Jerry BN2

Sent from my iPhone

<bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:

=EF=BB=BF Correction: My old ammeter may have a shunt resistor. I don't =
recall one, but I haven't looked at it in years; I'll see if I can find =
it in my parts stash. I didn't install it because it appeared full =
current could pass through it, and IIRC I figured 14ga wire or bigger =
might be needed, and would have to be routed through the scuttle and =
under the fascia.

On 11/6/2020 7:13 AM, Bob Spidell wrote:

My quick take:

He should:

1) Join this list.

2) Join at least one forum:
   https://www.britishcarforum.com
   https://www.ahexp.com/

3) This list's own David Nock is the go-to for tough problems and =
otherwise impossible-to-find parts:
  http://www.britishcarspecialists.com

FWIW: I got an ammeter for my BJ8 years ago; it's the only one I've seen =
for Healeys--it is a Smiths--but I've been leery of installing it as it =
has to go in series with one of the terminals on the voltage =
regulator--no shunt--and AFAIK it carries full dis/charging current =
(possible major smoke producer). If his has a shunt, it's likely an =
aftermarket and he probably needs to contact the manufacturer (but it's =
likely for 12V systems and, conceivably, all he as to do is wire it =
backwards for pos. gnd.). Getting the fuel gauge to work properly can be =
an involved process; MGA Guru has the most comprehensive info I've seen: =
https://www.mgaguru.com//mgtech/fuel/fuel.htm =
<https://www.mgaguru.com/mgtech/fuel/fuel.htm>=20

Bob




On 11/6/2020 6:26 AM, BJ8Healeys wrote:

Hello, Healeyphiles =E2=80=93

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I received the message below concerning issues with a BN4.   I=E2=80=99m =
forwarding it to the experts.  If anyone can help, please contact Matt =
Mirabile directly.  Please see the attachments for the specific problems =
and questions.

=20

Thanks!

Steve Byers

HBJ8L/36666

BJ8 Registry

AHCA Delegate at Large

Havelock, NC  USA

=20


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<matt2411@verizon.net>
Date: November 5, 2020 at 11:54:43 AM MST
To: c.matthews@talktalk.net
Subject: My 100-6 1957

=EF=BB=BFPls help. I have the car since March 2019 , I bought it from a =
dealer / estate sale in Benecia Cal.  I have 3-4 tech/wiring questions =
that my Flagstaff Az mechanic could not solve.  I love the car and am =
disappointed that he could not solve the problems. Can you send me a few =
email addresses that I can send my issues to ? . I have an electrical =
background but no one has been able to help me.  Thank you regards Matt =
Mirabile. 516-941-6167.=20











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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Listers:=C2=A0 it would be helpful if you would also Cc =
your response
to the person who is asking for the information (<a
href=3D"mailto:matt4211@verizon.net";>matt4211@verizon.net</a>) so that I =
do not
have to forward it to him individually.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>He is not a member of this list and does not =
automatically
receive your responses.=C2=A0 I thought we could provide the information =
he is
requesting without the need for him to sign up on the list first.=C2=A0 =
He may
decide to do so (or not) based on what help he =
receives.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Thank you!<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Steve Byers<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>HBJ8L/36666<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>BJ8 Registry<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>AHCA Delegate at Large<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Havelock, NC=C2=A0 USA<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><a name=3D"_MailEndCompose"><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span=
></a></p>

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0in 0in 0in'>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Healeys
[mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kees =
Oudesluijs via
Healeys<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 6, 2020 1:34 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> healeys@autox.team.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] FW: My 100-6 1957<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p>The Amp gauge should not have a shunt resistor. The rating should be
compatible with the output of the generator. Mostly 20A or 30A. If you =
have an
uprated generator you should replace the Amp gauge with a 50A, 60A or =
80A
gauge, depending on output. Make sure the wiring is up to these =
amperages. You
cannot damage the gauge when you have connected it up the wrong way. It =
will
just read charge instead of discharge v.v. The can be rectified by =
changing over
the wires. There are no pos. or neg. earth versions. An Amp gauge is =
fitted in
the main supply cable, usually brown, but should exclude the starter =
motor
circuit.<o:p></o:p></p>

<p>Most were Lucas branded but there are a few SMITHS and JAEGER branded =
ones.
They are all identical technically as they were all made by the same
manufacturer. <o:p></o:p></p>

<p>A much safer option is fitting a Voltage gauge which is fitted =
standard in
cars with an alternator. This is just wired to the accessory terminal of =
the
ignition switch. It will give you the same information.<o:p></o:p></p>

<p>Kees Oudesluijs<o:p></o:p></p>

<p><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>Op 6-11-2020 om 18:53 schreef cjerryadams--- via =
Healeys:<o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>A wiring schematic would be very helpful. Moss has =
reprints
of factory service manuals. Also someone has large =
11=E2=80=9Dx17=E2=80=9D laminated schematic
with proper colors of wring offered.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></p>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Jerry =
BN2<o:p></o:p></p>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Nov 6, 2020, at =
10:43 AM,
Bob Spidell <a =
href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net";>&lt;bspidell@comcast.net&gt;</a>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>

</blockquote>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>=EF=BB=BF</span>
Correction: My old ammeter <i>may</i> have a shunt resistor. I don't =
recall
one, but I haven't looked at it in years; I'll see if I can find it in =
my parts
stash. I didn't install it because it appeared full current could pass =
through
it, and IIRC I figured 14ga wire or bigger might be needed, and would =
have to
be routed through the scuttle and under the fascia.<o:p></o:p></p>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>On 11/6/2020 7:13 AM, Bob Spidell =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>My quick take:<br>
<br>
He should:<br>
<br>
1) Join this list.<br>
<br>
2) Join at least one forum:<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; <a =
href=3D"https://www.britishcarforum.com";>https://www.britishcarforum.com<=
/a><br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; <a =
href=3D"https://www.ahexp.com/";>https://www.ahexp.com/</a><br>
<br>
3) This list's own David Nock is the go-to for tough problems and =
otherwise
impossible-to-find parts:<br>
&nbsp; <a =
href=3D"http://www.britishcarspecialists.com";>http://www.britishcarspecia=
lists.com</a><br>
<br>
FWIW: I got an ammeter for my BJ8 years ago; it's the only one I've seen =
for
Healeys--it is a Smiths--but I've been leery of installing it as it has =
to go
in series with one of the terminals on the voltage regulator--no =
shunt--and
AFAIK it carries full dis/charging current (possible major smoke =
producer). If
his has a shunt, it's likely an aftermarket and he probably needs to =
contact
the manufacturer (but it's likely for 12V systems and, conceivably, all =
he as
to do is wire it backwards for pos. gnd.). Getting the fuel gauge to =
work
properly can be an involved process; MGA Guru has the most comprehensive =
info
I've seen: <a =
href=3D"https://www.mgaguru.com/mgtech/fuel/fuel.htm";>https://www.mgaguru=
.com//mgtech/fuel/fuel.htm</a><br>
<br>
Bob<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>On 11/6/2020 6:26 AM, BJ8Healeys =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>

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<blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hello, Healeyphiles =E2=80=93</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I received the message below concerning issues with a
BN4.&nbsp;&nbsp; I=E2=80=99m forwarding it to the experts.&nbsp; If =
anyone can help,
please contact Matt Mirabile directly.&nbsp; Please see the attachments =
for the
specific problems and questions.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Thanks!</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Steve Byers</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>HBJ8L/36666</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>BJ8 Registry</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>AHCA Delegate at Large</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Havelock, NC&nbsp; USA</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>
Begin forwarded message:<o:p></o:p></p>

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<blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'>

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<blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b>From:</b> MATTHEW =
MIRABILE <a
href=3D"mailto:matt2411@verizon.net";>&lt;matt2411@verizon.net&gt;</a><br>=

<b>Date:</b> November 5, 2020 at 11:54:43 AM MST<br>
<b>To: <a =
href=3D"mailto:c.matthews@talktalk.net";>c.matthews@talktalk.net</a></b><b=
r>
<b>Subject:</b> <b>My 100-6 1957</b><o:p></o:p></p>

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</blockquote>

<blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>=EF=BB=BF</span>Pls
help. I have the car since March 2019 , I bought it from a dealer / =
estate sale
in Benecia Cal. &nbsp;I have 3-4 tech/wiring questions that my Flagstaff =
Az
mechanic could not solve. &nbsp;I love the car and am disappointed that =
he
could not solve the problems. Can you send me a few email addresses that =
I can
send my issues to ? . I have an electrical background but no one has =
been able
to help me. &nbsp;Thank you regards Matt Mirabile. 516-941-6167. <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

</blockquote>

</div>

</blockquote>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><br>
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<o:p></o:p></p>

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