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To: gradea1@charter.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Tonight's Wiring Dilemma
From: Alan Seigrist <healey.nut@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2021 10:10:39 +0800
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It's a relay.

All you need to do is hook power up to it and then check that the switch is
going on and off correctly... C2 and C3 are likely the same thing as C1 and
C2.



On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 6:33 AM <gradea1@charter.net> wrote:

> Lucas being Lucas, there were many versions of similar parts..mostly to
> avoid inventory taxes. They still got caught.  However, the 2 overdrive
> relays 33177 were the same part number from chassis 138031 to 228046 when
> they then went to one relay-same number.  Then the screws mounting the unit
> were changed but not the relay itself.  All Healeys used the exact same
> part above. There were similar relays: 33217 and 33204 used on different
> cars that could look the same, but maybe had there terminals in different
> locations.  You should always check the stamped part number and DATE on all
> Lucas parts prior to installing them to be sure they are for your car.
> Regards, Hank
>
> -----------------------------------------
> From: "john harper"
> To: "Michael MacLean"
> Cc: "Healeys"
> Sent: Thursday January 21 2021 5:50:15AM
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Tonight's Wiring Dilemma
>
> Michael
>
> I have not checked the circuit diagram that you use but you would better
> to use those in the workshop manual.  The BN1 version shows the wiring to
> two overdrive relays and the centrifugal switch and to the wiring to the
> overdrive. BN2 version has far less wiring. There are also differences
> between the two, around the flasher unit.
>
> On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 at 05:28, Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net>
> wrote:
>
>> As you can see in the two photos I am trying to connect the overdrive
>> relay to the wiring harness.  Tonight's problem is not with the color
>> coding of the wires.  It is the markings on the relay.  I have included a
>> shot of my wiring diagram to illustrate.  In the diagram the connections on
>> the relay should be W1, W2, C1 and C2.  As you can see on the relay it is
>> clearly marked W1, W2, C2 and C3.  I'm confused enough with trying to wire
>> this car as it is.  Having mismarked components doesn't help.  Just so you
>> know, the wiring diagram in the original service manual shows the same as
>> my color coded diagram.  Wrong relay?  Maybe mistaken relay.  At first I
>> thought so, but I have two overdrive relays and they are marked the same.
>> I have been buying parts over several years and have duplicated purchase
>> during a sale not knowing I bought the same part even cheaper a few years
>> before.  So who is wrong, the diagram (I doubt it) or the part?
>> Mike MacLean
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>> [image: Trash13465c9c050611cfb7f0e960dcb385fa2e6]
>>
>>
>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">It&#39;s a relay.=C2=A0 <br><br>All you need to do is hook=
 power up to it and then check that the switch is going on and off correctl=
y... C2 and C3 are likely the same thing as C1 and C2.<div><br></div><div><=
br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gma=
il_attr">On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 6:33 AM &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gradea1@char=
ter.net">gradea1@charter.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"g=
mail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204=
,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>Lucas being Lucas, there were many version=
s of similar parts..mostly to avoid inventory taxes. They still got caught.=
=C2=A0 However, the 2 overdrive relays 33177 were the same part number from=
 chassis 138031 to 228046 when they then went to one relay-same number.=C2=
=A0 Then the screws mounting the unit were changed but not the relay itself=
.=C2=A0 All Healeys used the exact same part above. There were similar rela=
ys: 33217 and 33204 used on different cars that could look the same, but ma=
ybe had there terminals in different locations.=C2=A0 You should always che=
ck the stamped part number and DATE on all Lucas parts prior to installing =
them to be sure they are for your car. Regards, Hank<br><br><div></div><p>-=
----------------------------------------</p>From: &quot;john harper&quot; <=
u></u><br>To: &quot;Michael MacLean&quot;<br>Cc: &quot;Healeys&quot;<br>Sen=
t: Thursday January 21 2021 5:50:15AM<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Tonight&#39=
;s Wiring Dilemma<br><br>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Michael
<div><br></div>
<div>I have not checked the circuit diagram that you use but you
would better to use those in the workshop=C2=A0manual.=C2=A0 The
BN1 version shows the wiring to two overdrive=C2=A0relays and
the=C2=A0centrifugal=C2=A0switch and to the wiring to the
overdrive. BN2 version has far less wiring. There are also
differences between=C2=A0the two, around the flasher unit.</div>
</div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 at 05:28,
Michael MacLean &lt;<a>rrengineer.mike@att.net</a>&gt;
wrote:<br></div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
As you can see in the two photos I am trying to connect the
overdrive relay to the wiring harness.=C2=A0 Tonight&#39;s problem is
not with the color coding of the wires.=C2=A0 It is the markings on
the relay.=C2=A0 I have included a shot of my wiring diagram to
illustrate.=C2=A0 In the diagram the connections on the relay
should be W1, W2, C1 and C2.=C2=A0 As you can see on the relay it
is clearly marked W1, W2, C2 and C3.=C2=A0 I&#39;m confused enough with
trying to wire this car as it is.=C2=A0 Having mismarked components
doesn&#39;t help.=C2=A0 Just so you know, the wiring diagram in the
original service manual shows the same as my color coded
diagram.=C2=A0 Wrong relay?=C2=A0 Maybe mistaken relay.=C2=A0 At
first I thought so, but I have two overdrive relays and they are
marked the same.=C2=A0 I have been buying parts over several years
and have duplicated purchase during a sale not knowing I bought the
same part even cheaper a few years before.=C2=A0 So who is wrong,
the diagram (I doubt it) or the part?
<div>
Mike MacLean<br><div><img src=3D"http:///index.php/inbox/attachment/filenam=
eOriginal/20210120_210119.jpg/filenamefs/Trash13465e3e61fc9e5da7c77187d0f28=
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