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Re: [Healeys] Lightened Flywheel

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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Lightened Flywheel
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2021 07:49:12 -0800
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Falls more into the category of 'disappointment.'

I've sometimes wished I had a lightened flywheel in my BJ8, but I think 
the lower inertia/torque would be even more of an issue with its 3.54 
rear end (yes, it takes a tad more finessing of the clutch pedal than 
the 3.91). This is the classic argument of torque vs. horsepower (John 
and Kees are both correct, there's inertia and torque, both give more 
pulling power, which is what we're talking about off idle). In my BJ8, I 
can let out the clutch slowly and it will creep away from a standing 
stop, if I do that in my Mustang, with 475HP and 425lb-ft of torque 
it'll stall every time; it doesn't start really pulling until over 
3,000RPM (but will pull in a straight line to the rev limiter at 7,400). 
Yes, the Mustang is heavier, by a little over 50%, but has more than 
three times the HP of a stock BJ8). But, if you want torque, my dad's 
old 4-banger Ford tractors would best them both in a tug-of-war.

I can't however, think of a reason why the OD would be affected; it's 
either engaged or it isn't. If the cone clutch was slipping that would 
certainly cause issues.

Bob

On 3/11/2021 5:09 AM, Michael Salter wrote:
> My goodness "negative confirmation bias" not often seen on the net.
>
> M
>
> On Thu., Mar. 11, 2021, 1:41 a.m. John Spaur via Healeys, 
>
>     I have a DWR lightened flywheel but I wish I had known more before
>     installing it. A lightened flywheel reduces the torque. Also the
>     OD functions differently. There is not a lot of difference between
>     the RPM's in third and fourth gears. I am not sure how to explain
>     it but hopefully someone else will.
>
>     John
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net
>     Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 11:30 AM
>     Subject: [Healeys] Lightened Flywheel
>
>     Hello,
>     Anybody lightening and balancing flywheels ?���TOMS TOYS use to�.
>     but no more
>
>     Thanks
>     Mitch
>


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    Falls more into the category of 'disappointment.'<br>
    <br>
    I've sometimes wished I had a lightened flywheel in my BJ8, but I
    think the lower inertia/torque would be even more of an issue with
    its 3.54 rear end (yes, it takes a tad more finessing of the clutch
    pedal than the 3.91). This is the classic argument of torque vs.
    horsepower (John and Kees are both correct, there's inertia and
    torque, both give more pulling power, which is what we're talking
    about off idle). In my BJ8, I can let out the clutch slowly and it
    will creep away from a standing stop, if I do that in my Mustang,
    with 475HP and 425lb-ft of torque it'll stall every time; it doesn't
    start really pulling until over 3,000RPM (but will pull in a
    straight line to the rev limiter at 7,400). Yes, the Mustang is
    heavier, by a little over 50%, but has more than three times the HP
    of a stock BJ8). But, if you want torque, my dad's old 4-banger Ford
    tractors would best them both in a tug-of-war.<br>
    <br>
    I can't however, think of a reason why the OD would be affected;
    it's either engaged or it isn't. If the cone clutch was slipping
    that would certainly cause issues.<br>
    <br>
    Bob<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/11/2021 5:09 AM, Michael Salter
      wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="auto">My goodness "negative confirmation bias" not often
        seen on the net.
        <div dir="auto"><br>
        </div>
        <div dir="auto">M</div>
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      <br>
      <div class="gmail_quote">
        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu., Mar. 11, 2021, 1:41
          a.m. John Spaur via Healeys, &lt;<a
            href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; 
moz-do-not-send="true">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
          wrote:<br>
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        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
          .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I have a DWR
          lightened flywheel but I wish I had known more before
          installing it. A lightened flywheel reduces the torque. Also
          the OD functions differently. There is not a lot of difference
          between the RPM's in third and fourth gears. I am not sure how
          to explain it but hopefully someone else will.<br>
          <br>
          John<br>
          <br>
          -----Original Message-----<br>
          From: Healeys [mailto:<a
            href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; target="_blank"
            rel="noreferrer" 
moz-do-not-send="true">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>]
          On Behalf Of mitchell simmons<br>
          Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 11:30 AM<br>
          To: <a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target="_blank"
            rel="noreferrer" 
moz-do-not-send="true">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>
          Subject: [Healeys] Lightened Flywheel<br>
          <br>
          Hello,<br>
          Anybody lightening and balancing flywheels ?���TOMS TOYS use
          toâ?¦. but no more<br>
          <br>
          Thanks<br>
          Mitch<br>
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