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Re: [Healeys] Which brake fluid

To: Tom Felts <tomfelts@windstream.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Which brake fluid
From: Don via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2021 09:05:27 -0400
Cc: george mcharris <gmcharris@hotmail.com>, Healeys@autox.team.net
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When I did my restoration 9 years ago on my 67 BJ-8  I replaced all my brake=
 lines with SS lines . 2 new rear wheel cylinders . Had the front calipers r=
ebuilt along with my brake booster . Everything on the Hydraulic system eith=
er new or rebuilt.=20
Then I filled it up with silicone brake fluid. Then I moved to Fl. Around 3,=
000 miles later , no problems no sponginess in the brake pedal. Or clutch pe=
dal. I would do it again on another complete rebuild, if that ever happened =F0=
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> On Jul 25, 2021, at 6:57 AM, Tom Felts via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net=
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> Sent: Sat, 24 Jul 2021 21:47:20 -0400 (EDT)
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Which brake fluid
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> I have used silicone for years without any problems....added  plus it does=
 not attack paint..an accidental drop can wreck on a nice paint job. Have se=
en comments that silicone gives a spongey feel, but not that I noticed.
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>    1. Which Brake Fluid? (Michael MacLean)
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>    2. Re: Which Brake Fluid? (Kees Oudesluijs)
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>    3. Re: Which Brake Fluid? (Kees Oudesluijs)
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>    4. Re: Which Brake Fluid? (Michael Salter)
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>    5. Re: Which Brake Fluid? (Steven Kingsbury)
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>    6. Healey Sighting (Bob Spidell)
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>    7. Re: Which Brake Fluid? (Tom Felts)
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>    8. Re: Which Brake Fluid? (warthodson@aol.com)
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>    9. Re: Which Brake Fluid? (Michael Oritt)
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>   10. Re: Which Brake Fluid? (Kees Oudesluijs)
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>   11. Re: Which Brake Fluid? (warthodson@aol.com)
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>   12. Re: Which Brake Fluid? (Michael Oritt)
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> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2021 14:03:58 -0700
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> From: Michael MacLean <springer.mike51@gmail.com>
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> Subject: [Healeys] Which Brake Fluid?
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> The BN2 is at the point where it is time to fill and bleed the new brake
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> system.  Now comes the time to decide whether to go with DOT 3/4 brake
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> fluid or try silicone.  Any recommendations,  advice or warnings on this
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> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2021 23:35:23 +0200 (CEST)
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> From: Kees Oudesluijs <coudesluijs@upcmail.nl>
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> To: Michael MacLean <springer.mike51@gmail.com>, Michael MacLean via
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>         Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
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> DOT4. If you want to try silicon you would have to rebuild your entire hyd=
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out a rebuild or it may fail as DOT4 and DOT5 (silicon) are not compatible a=
nd do not mix.
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> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2021 23:44:24 +0200 (CEST)
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> From: Kees Oudesluijs <coudesluijs@upcmail.nl>
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>         Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
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> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Which Brake Fluid?
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> Sorry, did not read the question properly.
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> In a new system you have the choice obviously.
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> I would go for DOT4, which absorbs water, and change that every two years.=
 That will get rid of any moisture getting into your system before it can do=
 any harm. It also forces you to check the system when you replace the fluid=
. It is cheap and available anywhere.
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> The problem with silicon brake fluid is that it does not absorb water. Wat=
er will always enter the system because of condensation in the brake fluid r=
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> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2021 17:52:37 -0400
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> From: Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
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> In this instance I  agree with Kees.
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> M
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> On Fri., Jul. 23, 2021, 5:48 p.m. Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys, <
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> > I would go for DOT4, which absorbs water, and change that every two year=
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> > That will get rid of any moisture getting into your system before it can=
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> > any harm. It also forces you to check the system when you replace the
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> > fluid. It is cheap and available anywhere.
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> > The problem with silicon brake fluid is that it does not absorb water.
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> From: Steven Kingsbury <airtightproductions@icloud.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Which Brake Fluid?
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> I'm with everyone else I've read so far; DOT 4. Simple and it works.
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> On July 23, 2021 at 2:05 PM, Michael MacLean via Healeys <healeys@autox.te=
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> The BN2 is at the point where it is time to fill and bleed the new brake s=
ystem.? Now comes the time to decide whether to go with DOT 3/4 brake fluid o=
r try silicone.? Any recommendations,? advice or warnings on this decision?
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> From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
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> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Which Brake Fluid?
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> I have been using DOT 5 in my BJ8 for years.  Works fine for me.
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> Sent: Fri, 23 Jul 2021 19:29:48 -0400 (EDT)
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> I'm with everyone else I've read so far; DOT 4. Simple and it works.Steven=
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am.net> wrote:
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> The BN2 is at the point where it is time to fill and bleed the new brake s=
ystem.  Now comes the time to decide whether to go with DOT 3/4 brake fluid o=
r try silicone.  Any recommendations,  advice or warnings on this decision?M=
ike MacLean_______________________________________________
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> Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2021 13:03:25 +0000 (UTC)
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> I would like to say a few words on behalf of silicone brake fluid.It is no=
n-hygroscopic (does not absorb moisture).It does not damage paint as do glyc=
ol fluids.
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> A newly rebuilt and scrupulously clean brake system filled with silicone f=
luid should outlast a system filled with glycol fluid by several times.
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> The military specifies Silicone brake fluid for a reason.?
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> Gary Hodson
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> On July 23, 2021 at 2:05 PM, Michael MacLean via Healeys <healeys@autox.te=
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> The BN2 is at the point where it is time to fill and bleed the new brake s=
ystem.? Now comes the time to decide whether to go with DOT 3/4 brake fluid o=
r try silicone.? Any recommendations,? advice or warnings on this decision?M=
ike MacLean
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> "The military specifies Silicone brake fluid for a reason"
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> You really believe that?
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> -----Original Message-----
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> From: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
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> Sent: Sat, Jul 24, 2021 8:18 am
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> "The military specifies Silicone brake fluid for a reason"
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> Not necessarily a good one.
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> Best--Michael Oritt
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> On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 9:04 AM warthodson--- via Healeys <healeys@autox.t=
eam.net> wrote:
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> I would like to say a few words on behalf of silicone brake fluid.It is no=
n-hygroscopic (does not absorb moisture).It does not damage paint as do glyc=
ol fluids.
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> A newly rebuilt and scrupulously clean brake system filled with silicone f=
luid should outlast a system filled with glycol fluid by several times.
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> The military specifies Silicone brake fluid for a reason.?
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> Gary Hodson
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> On July 23, 2021 at 2:05 PM, Michael MacLean via Healeys <healeys@autox.te=
am.net> wrote:
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> The BN2 is at the point where it is time to fill and bleed the new brake s=
ystem.? Now comes the time to decide whether to go with DOT 3/4 brake fluid o=
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">When I did my restoration 9 years ago on my=
 67 BJ-8 &nbsp;I replaced all my brake lines with SS lines . 2 new rear whee=
l cylinders . Had the front calipers rebuilt along with my brake booster . E=
verything on the Hydraulic system either new or rebuilt.&nbsp;<div>Then I fi=
lled it up with silicone brake fluid. Then I moved to Fl. Around 3,000 miles=
 later , no problems no sponginess in the brake pedal. Or clutch pedal. I wo=
uld do it again on another complete rebuild, if that ever happened =F0=9F=99=
=84 .&nbsp;</div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Don&nbsp;<br><br><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=
=3D"cite">On Jul 25, 2021, at 6:57 AM, Tom Felts via Healeys &lt;healeys@aut=
ox.team.net&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><=
div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<style> body {height: 100%; color:#000000; font-siz=
e:12pt; font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;}</style><div>ditto</div><d=
iv><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div><br></div><div>----- Original Message=
 -----<br>From: george mcharris via Healeys &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<b=
r>To: healeys@autox.team.net<br>Sent: Sat, 24 Jul 2021 21:47:20 -0400 (EDT)<=
br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Which brake fluid<br></div><div><br></div><style s=
tyle=3D"display: none;" data-mce-style=3D"display: none;"> P {margin-top:0;m=
argin-bottom:0;} </style><div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans=
-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000;" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: Cal=
ibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000;"><br>I have us=
ed silicone for years without any problems....added&nbsp; plus it does not a=
ttack paint..an accidental drop can wreck on a nice paint job. Have seen com=
ments that silicone gives a spongey feel, but not that I noticed.</div><div>=
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eam.net &lt;healeys-request@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, Jul=
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ealeys digest..."<br><div><br></div><br><div><br></div>Today's Topics:<br><d=
iv><br></div><br>&nbsp;&nbsp; 1. Which Brake Fluid? (Michael MacLean)<br><di=
v><br></div>&nbsp;&nbsp; 2. Re: Which Brake Fluid? (Kees Oudesluijs)<br><div=
><br></div>&nbsp;&nbsp; 3. Re: Which Brake Fluid? (Kees Oudesluijs)<br><div>=
<br></div>&nbsp;&nbsp; 4. Re: Which Brake Fluid? (Michael Salter)<br><div><b=
r></div>&nbsp;&nbsp; 5. Re: Which Brake Fluid? (Steven Kingsbury)<br><div><b=
r></div>&nbsp;&nbsp; 6. Healey Sighting (Bob Spidell)<br><div><br></div>&nbs=
p;&nbsp; 7. Re: Which Brake Fluid? (Tom Felts)<br><div><br></div>&nbsp;&nbsp=
; 8. Re: Which Brake Fluid? (warthodson@aol.com)<br><div><br></div>&nbsp;&nb=
sp; 9. Re: Which Brake Fluid? (Michael Oritt)<br><div><br></div>&nbsp; 10. R=
e: Which Brake Fluid? (Kees Oudesluijs)<br><div><br></div>&nbsp; 11. Re: Whi=
ch Brake Fluid? (warthodson@aol.com)<br><div><br></div>&nbsp; 12. Re: Which B=
rake Fluid? (Michael Oritt)<br><div><br></div><br><div><br></div>-----------=
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v><br>Message: 1<br><div><br></div>Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2021 14:03:58 -0700<br>=
<div><br></div>From: Michael MacLean &lt;springer.mike51@gmail.com&gt;<br><d=
iv><br></div>To: Ahealey help &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<br><div><br></d=
iv>Subject: [Healeys] Which Brake Fluid?<br><div><br></div>Message-ID:<br><d=
iv><br></div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;CAL4ZEONGjf41c0r=
SmzX+nTVPHgBAOV=3DRjCjRUwkXLOzQtqWqGQ@mail.gmail.com&gt;<br><div><br></div>C=
ontent-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br><div><br></div><br>The BN2 is a=
t the point where it is time to fill and bleed the new brake<br><div><br></d=
iv>system.&nbsp; Now comes the time to decide whether to go with DOT 3/4 bra=
ke<br><div><br></div>fluid or try silicone.&nbsp; Any recommendations,&nbsp;=
 advice or warnings on this<br><div><br></div>decision?<br><div><br></div>Mi=
ke MacLean<br><div><br></div>-------------- next part --------------<br><div=
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iv><br></div><br>Message: 2<br><div><br></div>Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2021 23:35:2=
3 +0200 (CEST)<br><div><br></div>From: Kees Oudesluijs &lt;coudesluijs@upcma=
il.nl&gt;<br><div><br></div>To: Michael MacLean &lt;springer.mike51@gmail.co=
m&gt;, Michael MacLean via<br><div><br></div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp; Healeys &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<br><div><br></div>Subject=
: Re: [Healeys] Which Brake Fluid?<br><div><br></div>Message-ID: &lt;8472903=
08.312336.1627076123765@mail.ziggo.nl&gt;<br><div><br></div>Content-Type: te=
xt/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br><div><br></div><br>DOT4. If you want to try s=
ilicon you would have to rebuild your entire hydraulic circuit and fit all n=
ew rubber components. It may sometimes work without a rebuild or it may fail=
 as DOT4 and DOT5 (silicon) are not compatible and do not mix.<br><div><br><=
/div><br>What your life (and others) worth??<br><div><br></div><br>Kees Oude=
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<br></div><br>Message: 3<br><div><br></div>Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2021 23:44:24 +=
0200 (CEST)<br><div><br></div>From: Kees Oudesluijs &lt;coudesluijs@upcmail.=
nl&gt;<br><div><br></div>To: Michael MacLean &lt;springer.mike51@gmail.com&g=
t;, Michael MacLean via<br><div><br></div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp; Healeys &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<br><div><br></div>Subject: R=
e: [Healeys] Which Brake Fluid?<br><div><br></div>Message-ID: &lt;1867776020=
.312388.1627076664916@mail.ziggo.nl&gt;<br><div><br></div>Content-Type: text=
/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br><div><br></div><br>Sorry, did not read the ques=
tion properly.<br><div><br></div><br>In a new system you have the choice obv=
iously.<br><div><br></div><br>I would go for DOT4, which absorbs water, and c=
hange that every two years. That will get rid of any moisture getting into y=
our system before it can do any harm. It also forces you to check the system=
 when you replace the fluid. It is cheap and available anywhere.<br><div><br=
></div><br>The problem with silicon brake fluid is that it does not absorb w=
ater. Water will always enter the system because of condensation in the brak=
e fluid reservoir. This moisture can than settle in the lower parts of the s=
ystem and cause havoc unnoticed until it<br> leaks.<br><div><br></div><br><d=
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3 Jul 2021 17:52:37 -0400<br><div><br></div>From: Michael Salter &lt;michael=
salter@gmail.com&gt;<br><div><br></div>To: Kees Oudesluijs &lt;coudesluijs@u=
pcmail.nl&gt;<br><div><br></div>Cc: Michael MacLean &lt;springer.mike51@gmai=
l.com&gt;,&nbsp; Michael MacLean via<br><div><br></div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Healeys &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<br><div><br></d=
iv>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Which Brake Fluid?<br><div><br></div>Message-ID:<b=
r><div><br></div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;CAB3i7L+fj0-=
n9ms+P4=3DCoe=3DQFUdHyPEMyiwk75sdq64gkWPrSA@mail.gmail.com&gt;<br><div><br><=
/div>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br><div><br></div><br>In th=
is instance I&nbsp; agree with Kees.<br><div><br></div>The decision comes do=
wn to personal preference IMHO.<br><div><br></div><br>M<br><div><br></div><b=
r>On Fri., Jul. 23, 2021, 5:48 p.m. Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys, &lt;<br><di=
v><br></div>healeys@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:<br><div><br></div><br>&gt; Sor=
ry, did not read the question properly.<br><div><br></div>&gt;<br><div><br><=
/div>&gt; In a new system you have the choice obviously.<br><div><br></div>&=
gt;<br><div><br></div>&gt; I would go for DOT4, which absorbs water, and cha=
nge that every two years.<br><div><br></div>&gt; That will get rid of any mo=
isture getting into your system before it can do<br><div><br></div>&gt; any h=
arm. It also forces you to check the system when you replace the<br><div><br=
></div>&gt; fluid. It is cheap and available anywhere.<br><div><br></div>&gt=
;<br><div><br></div>&gt; The problem with silicon brake fluid is that it doe=
s not absorb water.<br><div><br></div>&gt; Water will always enter the syste=
m because of condensation in the brake<br><div><br></div>&gt; fluid reservoi=
r. This moisture can than settle in the lower parts of the<br><div><br></div=
>&gt; system and cause havoc unnoticed until it leaks.<br><div><br></div>&gt=
;<br><div><br></div>&gt;<br><div><br></div>&gt; Kees Oudesluijs<br><div><br>=
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9:48 -0000<br><div><br></div>From: Steven Kingsbury &lt;airtightproductions@=
icloud.com&gt;<br><div><br></div>To: Michael MacLean &lt;springer.mike51@gma=
il.com&gt;<br><div><br></div>Cc: "healeys@autox.team.net" &lt;healeys@autox.=
team.net&gt;<br><div><br></div>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Which Brake Fluid?<br>=
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flowed"<br><div><br></div><br>I'm with everyone else I've read so far; DOT 4=
. Simple and it works.<br><div><br></div>Steven Kingsbury<br><div><br></div>=
BN1<br><div><br></div><br>On July 23, 2021 at 2:05 PM, Michael MacLean via H=
ealeys &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:<br><div><br></div><br><div><br>=
</div>The BN2 is at the point where it is time to fill and bleed the new bra=
ke system.? Now comes the time to decide whether to go with DOT 3/4 brake fl=
uid or try silicone.? Any recommendations,? advice or warnings on this decis=
ion?<br><div><br></div>Mike MacLean<br><div><br></div>______________________=
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@comcast.net&gt;<br><div><br></div>To: Healeys &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt=
;<br><div><br></div>Subject: [Healeys] Healey Sighting<br><div><br></div>Mes=
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1 05:28:56 -0400 (EDT)<br><div><br></div>From: Tom Felts &lt;tomfelts@windst=
ream.net&gt;<br><div><br></div>To: Steven Kingsbury &lt;airtightproductions@=
icloud.com&gt;<br><div><br></div>Cc: Michael MacLean &lt;springer.mike51@gma=
il.com&gt;,<br><div><br></div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; hea=
leys@autox.team.net<br><div><br></div>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Which Brake Flu=
id?<br><div><br></div>Message-ID:<br><div><br></div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;2133467853.110536294.1627118936470.JavaMail.zimbra@wi=
ndstream.net&gt;<br><div><br></div>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-=
8"<br><div><br></div><br>I have been using DOT 5 in my BJ8 for years.&nbsp; W=
orks fine for me.<br><div><br></div>----- Original Message -----<br><div><br=
></div>From: Steven Kingsbury via Healeys &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<br>=
<div><br></div>To: Michael MacLean &lt;springer.mike51@gmail.com&gt;<br><div=
><br></div>Cc: healeys@autox.team.net<br><div><br></div>Sent: Fri, 23 Jul 20=
21 19:29:48 -0400 (EDT)<br><div><br></div>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Which Brake=
 Fluid?<br><div><br></div><br>I'm with everyone else I've read so far; DOT 4=
. Simple and it works.Steven KingsburyBN1<br><div><br></div>On July 23, 2021=
 at 2:05 PM, Michael MacLean via Healeys &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt; wrot=
e:<br><div><br></div><br>The BN2 is at the point where it is time to fill an=
d bleed the new brake system.&nbsp; Now comes the time to decide whether to g=
o with DOT 3/4 brake fluid or try silicone.&nbsp; Any recommendations,&nbsp;=
 advice or warnings on this decision?Mike MacLean___________________________=
____________________<br><div><br></div>Support Team.Nethttp://www.team.net/d=
onate.html<br><div><br></div>Suggested annual donation $12.75<br><div><br></=
div><br>Archive: <a href=3D"http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeyshttp://auto=
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ipermail/healeyshttp://autox.team.net/archive";><br>http://www.team.net/piper=
mail/healeyshttp://autox.team.net/archive</a><br><div><br></div><br>Healeys@=
autox.team.net<br><a href=3D"http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys"=
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 Jul 2021 13:03:25 +0000 (UTC)<br><div><br></div>From: warthodson@aol.com<br=
><div><br></div>To: "healeys@autox.team.net" &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;,=
<br><div><br></div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "springer.mike=
51@gmail.com" &lt;springer.mike51@gmail.com&gt;<br><div><br></div>Cc: "heale=
ys@autox.team.net" &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<br><div><br></div>Subject:=
 Re: [Healeys] Which Brake Fluid?<br><div><br></div>Message-ID: &lt;14852513=
45.715106.1627131805514@mail.yahoo.com&gt;<br><div><br></div>Content-Type: t=
ext/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br><div><br></div><br>I would like to say a few=
 words on behalf of silicone brake fluid.It is non-hygroscopic (does not abs=
orb moisture).It does not damage paint as do glycol fluids.<br><div><br></di=
v>A newly rebuilt and scrupulously clean brake system filled with silicone f=
luid should outlast a system filled with glycol fluid by several times.<br><=
div><br></div>The military specifies Silicone brake fluid for a reason.?<br>=
<div><br></div><br>Gary Hodson<br><div><br></div><br><div><br></div><br>On J=
uly 23, 2021 at 2:05 PM, Michael MacLean via Healeys &lt;healeys@autox.team.=
net&gt; wrote:<br><div><br></div><br><div><br></div>The BN2 is at the point w=
here it is time to fill and bleed the new brake system.? Now comes the time t=
o decide whether to go with DOT 3/4 brake fluid or try silicone.? Any recomm=
endations,? advice or warnings on this decision?Mike MacLean<br><div><br></d=
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age: 9<br><div><br></div>Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2021 09:18:38 -0400<br><div><br><=
/div>From: Michael Oritt &lt;michael.oritt@gmail.com&gt;<br><div><br></div>T=
o: warthodson@aol.com<br><div><br></div>Cc: "healeys@autox.team.net" &lt;hea=
leys@autox.team.net&gt;,<br><div><br></div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp; "springer.mike51@gmail.com" &lt;springer.mike51@gmail.com&gt;<br><=
div><br></div>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Which Brake Fluid?<br><div><br></div>Me=
ssage-ID:<br><div><br></div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;C=
APTa0B4CdEdqt6orZf-ujz=3DDi5KjYAHKAekuhPFq1hfgDAFg=3Dw@mail.gmail.com&gt;<br=
><div><br></div>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br><div><br></di=
v><br>"The military specifies Silicone brake fluid for a reason"<br><div><br=
></div><br>Not necessarily a good one.<br><div><br></div><br>Best--Michael O=
ritt<br><div><br></div><br>On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 9:04 AM warthodson--- via=
 Healeys &lt;<br><div><br></div>healeys@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:<br><div><b=
r></div><br>&gt; I would like to say a few words on behalf of silicone brake=
 fluid.<br><div><br></div>&gt; It is non-hygroscopic (does not absorb moistu=
re).<br><div><br></div>&gt; It does not damage paint as do glycol fluids.<br=
><div><br></div>&gt; A newly rebuilt and scrupulously clean brake system fil=
led with silicone<br><div><br></div>&gt; fluid should outlast a system fille=
d with glycol fluid by several times.<br><div><br></div>&gt; The military sp=
ecifies Silicone brake fluid for a reason.<br><div><br></div>&gt;<br><div><b=
r></div>&gt; Gary Hodson<br><div><br></div>&gt;<br><div><br></div>&gt;<br><d=
iv><br></div>&gt;<br><div><br></div>&gt; On July 23, 2021 at 2:05 PM, Michae=
l MacLean via Healeys &lt;<br><div><br></div>&gt; healeys@autox.team.net&gt;=
 wrote:<br><div><br></div>&gt;<br><div><br></div>&gt; The BN2 is at the poin=
t where it is time to fill and bleed the new brake<br><div><br></div>&gt; sy=
stem.&nbsp; Now comes the time to decide whether to go with DOT 3/4 brake<br=
><div><br></div>&gt; fluid or try silicone.&nbsp; Any recommendations,&nbsp;=
 advice or warnings on this<br><div><br></div>&gt; decision?<br><div><br></d=
iv>&gt; Mike MacLean<br><div><br></div>&gt;<br><div><br></div>&gt;<br><div><=
br></div>&gt; _______________________________________________<br><div><br></=
div>&gt; Support Team.Net <a href=3D"http://www.team.net/donate.html"; target=
=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"http://www.team.net/donate.html";>http://www.tea=
m.net/donate.html</a><br><div><br></div>&gt; Suggested annual donation&nbsp;=
 $12.75<br><div><br></div>&gt;<br><div><br></div>&gt; Archive: <a href=3D"ht=
tp://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"http=
://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys">http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys</a>=
<br><div><br></div>&gt; <a href=3D"http://autox.team.net/archive"; target=3D"=
_blank" data-mce-href=3D"http://autox.team.net/archive";>http://autox.team.ne=
t/archive</a><br><div><br></div>&gt;<br><div><br></div>&gt; Healeys@autox.te=
am.net<br><div><br></div>&gt; <a href=3D"http://autox.team.net/mailman/listi=
nfo/healeys" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"http://autox.team.net/mailma=
n/listinfo/healeys">http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys</a><br><d=
iv><br></div>&gt;<br><div><br></div>&gt; Unsubscribe/Manage:<br><div><br></d=
iv>&gt; <a href=3D"http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.ori=
tt@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"http://autox.team.net/mailm=
an/options/healeys/michael.oritt@gmail.com"><br>http://autox.team.net/mailma=
n/options/healeys/michael.oritt@gmail.com</a><br><div><br></div>&gt;<br><div=
><br></div>&gt;<br><div><br></div><br>-- <br><div><br></div>Best--Michael<br=
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><br>Message: 10<br><div><br></div>Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2021 15:33:05 +0200 (CE=
ST)<br><div><br></div>From: Kees Oudesluijs &lt;coudesluijs@upcmail.nl&gt;<b=
r><div><br></div>To: Michael Oritt &lt;michael.oritt@gmail.com&gt;, Michael O=
ritt via Healeys<br><div><br></div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;, warthodson@aol.com<br><div><br></div>Subje=
ct: Re: [Healeys] Which Brake Fluid?<br><div><br></div>Message-ID: &lt;12043=
16342.319344.1627133585866@mail.ziggo.nl&gt;<br><div><br></div>Content-Type:=
 text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br><div><br></div><br>Perhaps the military al=
so specify corrosion proof/lined/SS hydraulic parts??<br><div><br></div>----=
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<div><br></div>Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2021 13:38:04 +0000 (UTC)<br><div><br></div=
>From: warthodson@aol.com<br><div><br></div>To: "michael.oritt@gmail.com" &l=
t;michael.oritt@gmail.com&gt;<br><div><br></div>Cc: "healeys@autox.team.net"=
 &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;,<br><div><br></div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "springer.mike51@gmail.com" &lt;springer.mike51@gmail.com&=
gt;<br><div><br></div>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Which Brake Fluid?<br><div><br>=
</div>Message-ID: &lt;731761970.726376.1627133884098@mail.yahoo.com&gt;<br><=
div><br></div>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br><div><br></div>=
<br>You really believe that?<br><div><br></div><br>-----Original Message----=
-<br><div><br></div>From: Michael Oritt &lt;michael.oritt@gmail.com&gt;<br><=
div><br></div>To: warthodson@aol.com<br><div><br></div>Cc: healeys@autox.tea=
m.net &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;; springer.mike51@gmail.com &lt;springer=
.mike51@gmail.com&gt;<br><div><br></div>Sent: Sat, Jul 24, 2021 8:18 am<br><=
div><br></div>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Which Brake Fluid?<br><div><br></div><b=
r>"The military specifies Silicone brake fluid for a reason"<br><div><br></d=
iv>Not necessarily a good one.<br><div><br></div>Best--Michael Oritt<br><div=
><br></div>On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 9:04 AM warthodson--- via Healeys &lt;hea=
leys@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:<br><div><br></div><br>I would like to say a f=
ew words on behalf of silicone brake fluid.It is non-hygroscopic (does not a=
bsorb moisture).It does not damage paint as do glycol fluids.<br><div><br></=
div>A newly rebuilt and scrupulously clean brake system filled with silicone=
 fluid should outlast a system filled with glycol fluid by several times.<br=
><div><br></div>The military specifies Silicone brake fluid for a reason.?<b=
r><div><br></div><br>Gary Hodson<br><div><br></div><br><div><br></div><br>On=
 July 23, 2021 at 2:05 PM, Michael MacLean via Healeys &lt;healeys@autox.tea=
m.net&gt; wrote:<br><div><br></div><br><div><br></div>The BN2 is at the poin=
t where it is time to fill and bleed the new brake system.? Now comes the ti=
me to decide whether to go with DOT 3/4 brake fluid or try silicone.? Any re=
commendations,? advice or warnings on this decision?Mike MacLean<br><div><br=
></div><br>_______________________________________________<br><div><br></div=
>Support Team.Net <a href=3D"http://www.team.net/donate.html"; target=3D"_bla=
nk" data-mce-href=3D"http://www.team.net/donate.html";>http://www.team.net/do=
nate.html</a><br><div><br></div>Suggested annual donation? $12.75<br><div><b=
r></div><br>Archive: <a href=3D"http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys"; targe=
t=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys";>http://=
www.team.net/pipermail/healeys</a><a href=3D"http://autox.team.net/archive"; t=
arget=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"http://autox.team.net/archive";>http://auto=
x.team.net/archive</a><br><div><br></div><br>Healeys@autox.team.net<br><a hr=
ef=3D"http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys"; target=3D"_blank" data=
-mce-href=3D"http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys";>http://autox.te=
am.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys</a><br><div><br></div><br>Unsubscribe/Manage=
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ions/healeys/michael.oritt@gmail.com"><br>http://autox.team.net/mailman/opti=
ons/healeys/michael.oritt@gmail.com</a><br><div><br></div><br><div><br></div=
><br><div><br></div>-- <br><div><br></div>Best--Michael<br><div><br></div>--=
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><div><br></div>Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2021 09:38:53 -0400<br><div><br></div>From:=
 Michael Oritt &lt;michael.oritt@gmail.com&gt;<br><div><br></div>To: Michael=
 MacLean &lt;springer.mike51@gmail.com&gt;<br><div><br></div>Cc: Ahealey hel=
p &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<br><div><br></div>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Wh=
ich Brake Fluid?<br><div><br></div>Message-ID:<br><div><br></div>&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;CAPTa0B5qLUzADh9=3DmaWD1w0mW6-+rRQN3W3Ow=
eoJ2B3CuakUYQ@mail.gmail.com&gt;<br><div><br></div>Content-Type: text/plain;=
 charset=3D"utf-8"<br><div><br></div><br>Michael--<br><div><br></div><br>Bot=
h have pluses and minuses--I simply feel that DOT 3/4 has more of the<br><di=
v><br></div>former and fewer of the latter than does silicone, but that's ju=
st me.<br><div><br></div><br>Best--Michael Oritt<br><div><br></div><br>On Fri=
, Jul 23, 2021 at 5:04 PM Michael MacLean via Healeys &lt;<br><div><br></div=
>healeys@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:<br><div><br></div><br>&gt; The BN2 is at t=
he point where it is time to fill and bleed the new brake<br><div><br></div>=
&gt; system.&nbsp; Now comes the time to decide whether to go with DOT 3/4 b=
rake<br><div><br></div>&gt; fluid or try silicone.&nbsp; Any recommendations=
,&nbsp; advice or warnings on this<br><div><br></div>&gt; decision?<br><div>=
<br></div>&gt; Mike MacLean<br><div><br></div>&gt; _________________________=
______________________<br><div><br></div>&gt; Support Team.Net <a href=3D"ht=
tp://www.team.net/donate.html" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"http://www=
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>&gt; Suggested annual donation&nbsp; $12.75<br><div><br></div>&gt;<br><div>=
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