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To: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>, David Lodge <emmgeeteesee@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Bastuck
From: David Lodge via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2021 10:20:48 +0000 (UTC)
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Well, quite!
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    On Mon Aug 30 2021 13:27:44 GMT-0700 (PDT), David Lodge via Healeys <he=
aleys@autox.team.net> wrote: =20
=20
 Being German, I imagine that the quality is first-rate.=C2=A0 They have th=
e best darned Healey catalogue I've ever seen!
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    On Sunday, 29 August 2021, 07:01:03 GMT-7, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcas=
t.net> wrote: =20
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  In the second illustration on BPN it shows a (claimed) larger scalloped a=
rea on the impeller. Sounds reasonable but, according to Moss, it won't fit=
 the original heater cutoff valve, which I have and would like to keep (one=
 from Moss is almost $180).
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 On 8/29/2021 4:26 AM, Michael Oritt wrote:
 =20
=20
 Bob--=20
  Thanks and in checking the Moss catalogue=C2=A0this morning I see that in=
 fact they do sell the two side-by-side as you=C2=A0state at $96.00 and $16=
3.00 respectively.=C2=A0 That is an 80% increase in price for the "upgraded=
" pump and I must wonder what the pump achieves--and how it does it--to jus=
tify such an increase.=C2=A0 "Upgrade" might have several meanings and give=
n the propensity of these pumps to fail, perhaps the=C2=A0term describes lo=
ngevity versus performance, with a better-quality seal.=C2=A0 OTOH if the u=
pgrade is in performance that usually means increased water=C2=A0flow.=C2=
=A0 Unless the outer housing is substantially larger the cast-in "fins" on =
the internal impeller cannot be that much larger and=C2=A0so I wonder how s=
uch an increase would be achieved.=20
  Just sayin'....=C2=A0=20
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  On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 11:07 PM Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote=
:
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  Michael,
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 The 'upgraded' pump sold by Moss, Bastuck and BPN all appear to be the sam=
e:
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 https://www.bpnorthwest.com/water-pump-uprated-bn1-to-bn2.html
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 (if you look close you can see '--STUCK' on the pump body)
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 Claims '30% more flow,' BUT--there's always a 'but'--per the Moss catalog =
it will not fit the OEM brass heater line valve/nipple. The cheaper one Mos=
s sells supposedly does, but best I can tell it's a County product. I've ba=
d experiences with County, but both Tom Monaco and David Nock say they have=
 fit many with no issues.
=20
 The new one from AHSpares appears to be different, but also comes with a b=
arbed nipple:
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 https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/big-healey/cooling-heating-cht101=
-to-cht147/premium-water-pump-new-with-34-pulley.aspx
=20
=20
 I started to remove my pump, but found the pulley was loose; pump appears =
to be OK.
=20
 Bob
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  --=20
 Best--Michael=20
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p7953f26eyahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family: Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,A=
rial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><div>Well, quite!<br></div><div></div>
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                    On Mon Aug 30 2021 13:27:44 GMT-0700 (PDT), David Lodge=
 via Healeys &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"yiv6353231010"><div><div class=3D"yiv635323=
1010ydpccfb6a24yahoo-style-wrap" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica=
 Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div dir=3D"ltr">Being=
 German, I imagine that the quality is first-rate.&nbsp; They have the best=
 darned Healey catalogue I've ever seen!<br clear=3D"none"></div><div></div=
>
        <div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
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10yqt34195"><div>
                    On Sunday, 29 August 2021, 07:01:03 GMT-7, Bob Spidell =
&lt;bspidell@comcast.net&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
                <div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
                <div><div id=3D"yiv6353231010"><div>
    In the second illustration on BPN it shows a (claimed) larger
    scalloped area on the impeller. Sounds reasonable but, according to
    Moss, it won't fit the original heater cutoff valve, which I have
    and would like to keep (one from Moss is almost $180).<br clear=3D"none=
">
    <br clear=3D"none">
    <br clear=3D"none">
    <div class=3D"yiv6353231010yqt3940912327" id=3D"yiv6353231010yqtfd23762=
"><div class=3D"yiv6353231010moz-cite-prefix">On 8/29/2021 4:26 AM, Michael=
 Oritt
      wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
      </blockquote></div></div><div class=3D"yiv6353231010yqt3940912327" id=
=3D"yiv6353231010yqtfd83330"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">
        <div class=3D"yiv6353231010gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff;">=
Bob--</div>
        <div class=3D"yiv6353231010gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff;">=
<br clear=3D"none">
        </div>
        <div class=3D"yiv6353231010gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff;">=
Thanks and in
          checking the Moss catalogue&nbsp;this morning I see that in fact
          they do sell the two side-by-side as you&nbsp;state at $96.00 and
          $163.00 respectively.&nbsp; That is an 80% increase in price for
          the "upgraded" pump and I must wonder what the pump
          achieves--and how it does it--to justify such an increase.&nbsp;
          "Upgrade" might have several meanings and given the propensity
          of these pumps to fail, perhaps the&nbsp;term describes longevity
          versus performance, with a better-quality seal.&nbsp; OTOH if the
          upgrade is in performance that usually means increased
          water&nbsp;flow.&nbsp; Unless the outer housing is substantially =
larger
          the cast-in "fins" on the internal impeller cannot be that
          much larger and&nbsp;so I wonder how such an increase would be
          achieved.</div>
        <div class=3D"yiv6353231010gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff;">=
<br clear=3D"none">
        </div>
        <div class=3D"yiv6353231010gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff;">=
Just
          sayin'....&nbsp;</div>
        <div class=3D"yiv6353231010gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff;">=
<br clear=3D"none">
        </div>
      </div>
      <br clear=3D"none">
      <div class=3D"yiv6353231010gmail_quote">
        <div class=3D"yiv6353231010gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Sat, Aug 28, =
2021 at 11:07
          PM Bob Spidell &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=
=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D=
"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net";>bspidell@comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=
=3D"none">
        </div>
        <blockquote class=3D"yiv6353231010gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px =
0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;">
          <div> Michael,<br clear=3D"none">
            <br clear=3D"none">
            The 'upgraded' pump sold by Moss, Bastuck and BPN all appear
            to be the same:<br clear=3D"none">
            <br clear=3D"none">
            <a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=
=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://www.bpnorthwest.com/water-pump-uprated-bn1-to-b=
n2.html">https://www.bpnorthwest.com/water-pump-uprated-bn1-to-bn2.html</a>=
<br clear=3D"none">
            <br clear=3D"none">
            (if you look close you can see '--STUCK' on the pump body)<br c=
lear=3D"none">
            <br clear=3D"none">
            Claims '30% more flow,' BUT--there's always a 'but'--per the
            Moss catalog it will not fit the OEM brass heater line
            valve/nipple. The cheaper one Moss sells supposedly does,
            but best I can tell it's a County product. I've bad
            experiences with County, but both Tom Monaco and David Nock
            say they have fit many with no issues.<br clear=3D"none">
            <br clear=3D"none">
            The new one from AHSpares appears to be different, but also
            comes with a barbed nipple:<br clear=3D"none">
            <br clear=3D"none">
            <a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=
=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/big-healey/coo=
ling-heating-cht101-to-cht147/premium-water-pump-new-with-34-pulley.aspx">h=
ttps://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/big-healey/cooling-heating-cht101-t=
o-cht147/premium-water-pump-new-with-34-pulley.aspx</a><br clear=3D"none">
            <br clear=3D"none">
            <br clear=3D"none">
            I started to remove my pump, but found the pulley was loose;
            pump appears to be OK.<br clear=3D"none">
            <br clear=3D"none">
            Bob<br clear=3D"none">
            <br clear=3D"all">
            <br clear=3D"none">
          </div>
        </blockquote>
      </div>
      <div><br clear=3D"none">
      </div>
      -- <br clear=3D"none">
      <div class=3D"yiv6353231010gmail_signature" dir=3D"ltr"><font color=
=3D"#3333ff">Best--Michael</font></div>
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