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Re: [Healeys] 100 door vinyl original glue technique

To: S and T Miller <stmiller96@hotmail.com>, "healeys@autox.team.net" <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 door vinyl original glue technique
From: Jean Caron via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2021 14:09:08 +0000
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Roger Moment also did an article in one of the AHCUSA Magazine about the do=
ors on a 100, I am trying to find when the article was published and the ph=
otos for it.

Jean

Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986> for Window=
s

Sent: October 1, 2021 8:41 AM
Subject: [Healeys] 100 door vinyl original glue technique

I've done some more digging on the "Ole interwebs" after asking this questi=
on of the group.  I did learn that not all doors have the vertical/ central=
 wide metal brace running from the bottom of the door to the wood horizonta=
l brace (screw attachment point for the upper panel). I'd speculate that it=
 was added on later in the run as a needed exterior door skin support. I'm =
sure someone on here knows when and why. I did find some pictures showing t=
he vinyl glued over that brace and it is visible through the vinyl covering=
.

As far as the wood horizontal brace it appears most glue it creating a 90 d=
egree lip below the upper stiff backed panel. It just didn't seem correct t=
o me, but after viewing numerous completed cars,  it doesn't look bad.

I'm not doing a concours car, but some areas I just get all wrapped up in m=
aking it as factory correct as possible.


The Millers

"Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test dri=
ve."


From: S and T Miller
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2021 9:02 PM
To: healeys@autox.team.net <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: 100 door vinyl original glue technique

How did the factory go about gluing the bottom inner vinyl material to the =
inner door? So if you glue it tight there is a brace running up the middle =
that will show through, and also there would be a 90 degree ledge where it =
meets the horizontal wood middle support (below the upper vinyl covered pan=
el). I'm fairly certain there was no backing material on this piece of viny=
l from the factory.  My thought is to glue to the metal brace and glue a di=
stance away to create a nice transition. And the same method from the horiz=
ontal mid wood support which would leave some unglued void areas between th=
e vinyl and the inner door.

I do realize that adding some backing takes care of the issues,  but am int=
erested in how it was done originally.  I don't recall mine having any back=
ing, and my original vinyl is too stiff and pulled away to tell how it was =
done. Once I flattened out my originals,  they did make fantastic templates=
 to cut the new vinyl from.
TIA, Shawn

The Millers

"Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test dri=
ve."


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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Roger Moment also did an article in one of the AHCUS=
A Magazine about the doors on a 100, I am trying to find when the article w=
as published and the photos for it.</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Jean</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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ef=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>S and T Miller via Healeys</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>October 1, 2021 8:41 AM<br>
<b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net=
</a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[Healeys] 100 door vinyl original glue technique</p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Se=
goe UI&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">I've done some more digging on the &qu=
ot;Ole interwebs&quot; after asking this question of the group.&nbsp; I did=
 learn that not all doors have the vertical/ central wide metal
 brace running from the bottom of the door to the wood horizontal brace (sc=
rew attachment point for the upper panel). I'd speculate that it was added =
on later in the run as a needed exterior door skin support. I'm sure someon=
e on here knows when and why. I
 did find some pictures showing the vinyl glued over that brace and it is v=
isible through the vinyl covering.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Se=
goe UI&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Se=
goe UI&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">As far as the wood horizontal brace it=
 appears most glue it creating a 90 degree lip below the upper stiff backed=
 panel. It just didn't seem correct to me, but
 after viewing numerous completed cars,&nbsp; it doesn't look bad.&nbsp;&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Se=
goe UI&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Se=
goe UI&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">I'm not doing a concours car, but some=
 areas I just get all wrapped up in making it as factory correct as possibl=
e.&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The Millers<br>
&nbsp;<br>
&quot;Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a tes=
t drive.&quot;<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"color:black">From:</span></b><span=
 style=3D"color:black"> S and T Miller<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 29, 2021 9:02 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> healeys@autox.team.net &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> 100 door vinyl original glue technique </span><o:p></o:p></=
p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Se=
goe UI&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">How did the factory go about gluing th=
e bottom inner vinyl material to the inner door? So if you glue it tight th=
ere is a brace running up the middle that will
 show through, and also there would be a 90 degree ledge where it meets the=
 horizontal wood middle support (below the upper vinyl covered panel). I'm =
fairly certain there was no backing material on this piece of vinyl from th=
e factory.&nbsp; My thought is to glue
 to the metal brace and glue a distance away to create a nice transition. A=
nd the same method from the horizontal mid wood support which would leave s=
ome unglued void areas between the vinyl and the inner door.&nbsp;<o:p></o:=
p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Se=
goe UI&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Se=
goe UI&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">I do realize that adding some backing =
takes care of the issues,&nbsp; but am interested in how it was done origin=
ally.&nbsp; I don't recall mine having any backing, and
 my original vinyl is too stiff and pulled away to tell how it was done. On=
ce I flattened out my originals,&nbsp; they did make fantastic templates to=
 cut the new vinyl from.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Se=
goe UI&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">TIA, Shawn<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The Millers<br>
&nbsp;<br>
&quot;Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a tes=
t drive.&quot;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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