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To: john harper <ah100tech@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sealing Head Studs
From: Michael Salter via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2021 12:17:54 -0400
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Hi John, just to avoid confusion here I should perhaps point out that we
are dealing with a 6 cylinder engine here and the generator mounting
bracket, which is also the front side cover, is secured by screws that
don't pass into the water jacket.
As far as I'm aware the issue with the generator mount bracket applies only
to the 100 engine and, as you say, can cause such problems. I should also
point out that all 8 rocker shaft mounting studs (not the valve cover nut
studs) on the 100 head pass through into the water jacket and care must be
taken to ensure that they are carefully sealed.

M


On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 11:57 AM john harper via Healeys <
healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:

> Mirek
>
> The only places that I am aware of are that the stud holes where the
> dynamo bracket fixes to the block are often not blind. I have seen
> situations where the studs have been replaced by bolts leading to a leak.
> The studs should be fitted with a good sealant to avoid any leaks.
>
> There were also threads going right through on early heads where the two
> rocker cover studs fit.
>
> Best regards
>
> On Sat, 16 Oct 2021 at 16:00, m.g.sharp--- via Healeys <
> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for all the feedback, and not that I doubted anyone, I did my own
>> test.  I pulled out my spare block (lugging a spare block around for 30
>> years is the guarantee that I will never need one) and cleaned out the s=
tud
>> holes, except for the one hole with a broken stud! I filled each of them
>> with WD-40 and let it sit for 24 hrs.  The level of the WD-40 did not go=
t
>> down in any of them.  Also, Mike Salter pointed out to me that the head
>> stud threads have a groove machined through them, the only purpose of wh=
ich
>> would be to relieve hydraulic lock from any lubricant that was applied t=
o
>> the threads before threading them in.  There would be no need for the
>> groove if the holes were not blind.
>>
>>
>>
>> Given that, I cannot see the need to apply anything to the threads when
>> installing the studs, except perhaps for a little lubricant to assist wi=
th
>> getting them tight.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers, Mirek
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* richard mayor <boyracer466@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* October 14, 2021 9:21 PM
>> *To:* m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca
>> *Cc:* Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Sealing Head Studs
>>
>>
>>
>> There are no head studs that go into coolant passages.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 2:36 PM m.g.sharp--- via Healeys <
>> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>> Has anyone out there had issues with coolant coming up the head studs?  =
I
>> have heard that some stud holes in the block are blind, but some interce=
pt
>> coolant channels and that the head studs that go in these holes need to =
be
>> sealed.  Does anyone know which holes are blind and which are not?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for any insights.
>>
>>
>>
>> Mirek
>>
>> =E2=80=9959 BT7
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,sa=
ns-serif;font-size:small">Hi John, just to avoid confusion here I should pe=
rhaps point out that we are dealing with a 6 cylinder engine here and the g=
enerator mounting bracket, which is also the front side cover, is secured b=
y screws that don&#39;t pass into the water jacket.<br></div><div class=3D"=
gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">As fa=
r as I&#39;m aware the issue with the generator mount bracket applies only =
to the 100 engine and, as you say, can cause such problems. I should also p=
oint out that all 8 rocker shaft mounting studs (not the valve cover nut st=
uds) on the 100 head pass through into the water jacket and care must be ta=
ken to ensure that they are carefully sealed.</div><div class=3D"gmail_defa=
ult" style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:sma=
ll">M<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,sans=
-serif;font-size:small"><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div=
 dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 11:57 AM john har=
per via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_bl=
ank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gm=
ail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,=
204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Mirek<div><br></div><div>The on=
ly places that I am aware of are that the stud holes where the dynamo=C2=A0=
bracket=C2=A0fixes to the block are often not blind. I have seen situations=
 where the studs have been replaced by bolts leading to a leak. The studs s=
hould be fitted with a good sealant to avoid any leaks.</div><div><br></div=
><div>There were also threads going right through on early heads where the =
two rocker cover studs fit.</div><div><br></div><div>Best regards</div></di=
v><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On S=
at, 16 Oct 2021 at 16:00, m.g.sharp--- via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:he=
aleys@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrot=
e:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0=
.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"=
EN-CA"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Thanks for all the feedback, and n=
ot that I doubted anyone, I did my own test.=C2=A0 I pulled out my spare bl=
ock (lugging a spare block around for 30 years is the guarantee that I will=
 never need one) and cleaned out the stud holes, except for the one hole wi=
th a broken stud! I filled each of them with WD-40 and let it sit for 24 hr=
s.=C2=A0 The level of the WD-40 did not got down in any of them.=C2=A0 Also=
, Mike Salter pointed out to me that the head stud threads have a groove ma=
chined through them, the only purpose of which would be to relieve hydrauli=
c lock from any lubricant that was applied to the threads before threading =
them in.=C2=A0 There would be no need for the groove if the holes were not =
blind.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u=
></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Given that, I cannot see the n=
eed to apply anything to the threads when installing the studs, except perh=
aps for a little lubricant to assist with getting them tight.<u></u><u></u>=
</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Cheers, Mirek<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><div style=3D"border-color:=
rgb(225,225,225) currentcolor currentcolor;border-style:solid none none;bor=
der-width:1pt medium medium;padding:3pt 0cm 0cm"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>=
<span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"> richard mayor &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:boyracer466@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">boyracer466@gm=
ail.com</a>&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> October 14, 2021 9:21 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca"; target=3D"_blank">m.g.sharp@sympatic=
o.ca</a><br><b>Cc:</b> Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net=
" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [=
Healeys] Sealing Head Studs<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">There are no head=
 studs that go into coolant passages.<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Thu, O=
ct 14, 2021 at 2:36 PM m.g.sharp--- via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:heale=
ys@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<=
u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"border-color:currentcolor curre=
ntcolor currentcolor rgb(204,204,204);border-style:none none none solid;bor=
der-width:medium medium medium 1pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin-left:4.8p=
t;margin-right:0cm"><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">H=
as anyone out there had issues with coolant coming up the head studs?=C2=A0=
 I have heard that some stud holes in the block are blind, but some interce=
pt coolant channels and that the head studs that go in these holes need to =
be sealed.=C2=A0 Does anyone know which holes are blind and which are not?<=
/span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=C2=A0<=
/span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Thanks =
for any insights.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=
=3D"EN-US">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=
=3D"EN-US">Mirek</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=
=3D"EN-US">=E2=80=9959 BT7</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class=3D"=
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