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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Water Temperature gauge Bezel
From: Bob Begani via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2021 08:48:50 -0500
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Thanks, Mirek for the detailed information.  I have printed the entire
script and will keep it in my files for the opportunity to consider the =
DIY
method you advise.

One of my Healey things to do in the next 6 months.  Meanwhile, I know =
what
is the correct temperature and not worried about the gauge showing  =
between
230 degrees and 212 degrees after settling down below 212 degrees while
driving.

=20

Regards,

=20

Bob Begani

=20

From: m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca <m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca>=20
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2021 8:05 AM
To: rfbegani@gmail.com
Subject: RE: [Healeys] Water Temperature gauge Bezel

=20

Bob, I assume the later gauges are the same as  the earlier ones.  If =
you
look carefully at the body of the gauge where the bezel fits over the =
rim,
you will see three notches.   It is not easy, but the bezel can be =
rotated
so the tabs line up with the notches and the bezel can be carefully =
pried
off.  Often the bezels are stuck as they have been there so long.  You =
can
try very gently prying the tabs open a bit, but they are fragile and =
break
easily, then the bezel is useless.  Below, John recommends against =
bending
the tabs, but I have done so successfully a few times, but I did break =
one
once too!

=20

I asked John Marks of Vintage Restorations (retired instrument restorer) =
and
here is his reply:

=20

3.      =93Dont bend bezel lugs up they usually break off.   We have a steel
rod about 5/8=94 by =BC=94 with holes for the fixing studs and a bit cut =
to clear
the cable drive.  Put this in a vice, mount the instrument on the holes, =
and
try to turn the bezel off the case using rubber gloves.   Good luck!=94  =
(I
think the =93rod=94 John refers to is probably a flat bar)

=20

The needle can be very gently pried off the spindle.  I used two small
jewelers screwdrivers, one on each side.  It can be then gently pressed =
back
on in the right position.  I did have one needle that would slip on the
spindle and I used the tiniest blob of clear silicone to hold it in =
place.
I would not use glue as it will never come apart in the future. =20

=20

You have probably thought of it, but I would get a container of water, a
reliable thermometer and a heating element and calibrate the instrument
before replacing the bezel.

=20

Lastly, when you pull the gauge away from the facia, you will likely =
destroy
the rubber ring that goes between the gauge and the facia.  Try to save =
it
if you can, but the rubber is usually perished.  If you need to replace =
it,
look at it carefully as on some of the instruments the rubber is a =
normal
o-ring, but on some, I think the big instruments, the rubber has a =
square
section and is not round.  Replacement rubbers are available from =
Nisongers
(www.nisonger.com <http://www.nisonger.com> ), and probably other =
sources.

=20

Good luck, Mirek

=20

=20

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net
Healeys
Sent: November 10, 2021 6:20 AM
Subject: [Healeys] Water Temperature gauge Bezel

=20

Listeners:

=20

As the Davis Craig Electric Water Pump with the Electric Fan pushing are
working to reduce the overheating and boil over on my BJ8, it now comes =
time
to move the needle back 90 degrees because that is the amount the gauge =
is
off.  Someone mentioned that I do not need to send the gauge out for =
repair,
I could simply remove the bezel. Please explain how to get it of and =
back on
without breaking it.

=20

Regards,

=20

Bob Begani

67 BJ8


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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Thanks, Mirek =
for the detailed information.=A0 I have printed the entire script and =
will keep it in my files for the opportunity to consider the DIY method =
you advise.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>One of my =
Healey things to do in the next 6 months.=A0 Meanwhile, I know what is =
the correct temperature and not worried about the gauge showing =
=A0between 230 degrees and 212 degrees after settling down below 212 =
degrees while driving.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Regards,<o:p></=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Bob =
Begani<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></span></p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 =
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> =
m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca &lt;m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> =
Wednesday, November 10, 2021 8:05 AM<br><b>To:</b> =
rfbegani@gmail.com<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Healeys] Water Temperature =
gauge Bezel<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-CA>Bob, I assume the later gauges are the same as&nbsp; the =
earlier ones.&nbsp; If you look carefully at the body of the gauge where =
the bezel fits over the rim, you will see three notches. &nbsp;&nbsp;It =
is not easy, but the bezel can be rotated so the tabs line up with the =
notches and the bezel can be carefully pried off.&nbsp; Often the bezels =
are stuck as they have been there so long.&nbsp; You can try <u>very</u> =
gently prying the tabs open a bit, but they are fragile and break =
easily, then the bezel is useless. &nbsp;Below, John recommends against =
bending the tabs, but I have done so successfully a few times, but I did =
break one once too!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-CA><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-CA>I asked John Marks of Vintage Restorations (retired =
instrument restorer) and here is his reply:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-CA><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><ol =
style=3D'margin-top:0in' start=3D3 type=3D1><li class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'><span =
lang=3DEN-CA>&#8220;Dont bend bezel lugs up they usually break =
off.&nbsp;&nbsp; We have a steel rod about 5/8&#8221; by =BC&#8221; with =
holes for the fixing studs and a bit cut to clear the cable drive.&nbsp; =
Put this in a vice, mount the instrument on the holes, and try to turn =
the bezel off the case using rubber gloves.&nbsp;&nbsp; Good =
luck!&#8221; &nbsp;</span><span lang=3DEN-CA =
style=3D'color:windowtext'>(I think the &#8220;rod&#8221; John refers to =
is probably a flat bar)</span><span =
lang=3DEN-CA><o:p></o:p></span></li></ol><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-CA><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-CA>The needle can be very gently pried off the spindle.&nbsp; =
I used two small jewelers screwdrivers, one on each side.&nbsp; It can =
be then gently pressed back on in the right position.&nbsp; I did have =
one needle that would slip on the spindle and I used the tiniest blob of =
clear silicone to hold it in place.&nbsp;&nbsp; I would not use glue as =
it will never come apart in the future.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-CA><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-CA>You have probably thought of it, =
but I would get a container of water, a reliable thermometer and a =
heating element and calibrate the instrument before replacing the =
bezel.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-CA><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-CA>Lastly, when you pull the gauge away from the facia, you =
will likely destroy the rubber ring that goes between the gauge and the =
facia.&nbsp; Try to save it if you can, but the rubber is usually =
perished.&nbsp; If you need to replace it, look at it carefully as on =
some of the instruments the rubber is a normal o-ring, but on some, I =
think the big instruments, the rubber has a square section and is not =
round.&nbsp; Replacement rubbers are available from Nisongers (<a =
href=3D"http://www.nisonger.com";>www.nisonger.com</a>), and probably =
other sources.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-CA><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-CA>Good luck, Mirek<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-CA><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-CA><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Healeys &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";>healeys-bounces@autox.team=
.net</a>&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bob Begani via Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> =
November 10, 2021 6:20 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a><br><b>S=
ubject:</b> [Healeys] Water Temperature gauge =
Bezel<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-CA><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Listeners:<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>As the Davis =
Craig Electric Water Pump with the Electric Fan pushing are working to =
reduce the overheating and boil over on my BJ8, it now comes time to =
move the needle back 90 degrees because that is the amount the gauge is =
off.&nbsp; Someone mentioned that I do not need to send the gauge out =
for repair, I could simply remove the bezel. Please explain how to get =
it of and back on without breaking it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Regards,<o:p></=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Bob =
Begani<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>67 =
BJ8<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></body></html>
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