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Re: [Healeys] 100 Rear Springs

To: Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 Rear Springs
From: Bob Spidell via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2021 15:11:03 -0800
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Wow. Makes me extra glad my dad made the effort to restore our BN2=E2=80=99s=
 original springs, including my sourcing new zinc interleaves from a guy who=
 had bought a sheet and had them cut to spec on a shear.

Why is it so hard to get decent repop springs?



> On Nov 22, 2021, at 2:38 PM, Michael Salter via Healeys <healeys@autox.tea=
m.net> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
> Well, based opon the advice given and a carefully reading ofthe   informat=
ion on their web page https://britishclassiccarparts.com/ which includes thi=
s statement:  BCC will only supply springs that comply, as best possible, wi=
th OEM specifications or better I ordered a pair of BN1 rear springs.=20
> Initially I thought my order had not gone through because despite their st=
atement that "Your order confirmation from BCC will include basic dimensiona=
l information on the spring you have ordered allowing you to check against t=
he springs you are replacing" I received no confirmation from BCC that the o=
rder had been received and the only way to confirm that it had indeed been r=
eceived aws to check my account withdrawals.
> These springs are not inexpensive and ended up costing almost 3 times what=
 they would have cost from one of the usual suspects.
> When I finally received the shipment and had an opportunity to examine wha=
t had been supplied I was far from impressed.
> This is my email sent to BCC regarding their "OEM specifications or better=
" product.=20
>=20
> Dear Sirs,
>=20
> We recently received from yourselves a pair of rear leaf springs purchased=
 for an Austin Healey 100 BN1 which we are restoring to concours level for a=
 long-time customer.
>=20
> The preamble on your web site states =E2=80=9CBCC will only supply springs=
 that comply, as best possible, with OEM specifications or better.=E2=80=9D
>=20
> You also state =E2=80=9CYour order confirmation from BCC will include basi=
c dimensional information on the spring you have ordered allowing you to che=
ck against the springs you are replacing.=E2=80=9D We received neither an or=
der confirmation nor the dimensional information mentioned.
>=20
> The springs that we have received do not come even close to the OEM specif=
ications for the springs for a BN1.
>=20
> There were 3 types of leaf springs supplied for the BN1. The final design,=
 fitted after body number C.154647 was arrived at after much experimentation=
 as many owners experienced difficulties with the rear suspension of these v=
ehicles.
>=20
> The last type, part number 1B829, had the following specifications:
>=20
> Free length  34.75=E2=80=9D
>=20
> Laden length 36=E2=80=9D
>=20
> Free camber 3.75=E2=80=9D
>=20
> Laden camber 0.25=E2=80=9D
>=20
> Deflection 4=E2=80=9D @ 490 lbs
>=20
> Number of leaves 8
>=20
> Number of zinc interleaves 3
>=20
> 6 rebound clips were used on each spring, 2 open to the top and one, the o=
uter, open to the bottom.
>=20
> The rebound clips were closed using =C2=BC=E2=80=9D UNF countersunk slot s=
crews with tubular spacers.
>=20
> A special extra-long =E2=80=9Ctoe bolt=E2=80=9D head was required to penet=
rate the fiber pads and tapered spacers.
>=20
> The springs that you have supplied are absolutely unsuitable for use on th=
is vehicle and are nothing like OEM specifications.
>=20
> In addition to the above the following are some of the other problems that=
 we have noticed with your product.
>=20
> 1.      Free camber 4.75=E2=80=9D
> 2.      No zinc interleaves at all.
> 3.      Metric thread hex head rebound clip screws (threatening the tyre s=
idewalls)
> 4.      Short =E2=80=9Ctoe bolt=E2=80=9D heads (very dangerous as the axle=
 will be located by friction alone if these springs were to be installed)
> 5.      Middle rebound clip installed upside down
> 6.      Nothing locating the end rebound clips
>=20
> We have not bothered to install these springs because this would obviously=
 be a total waste of our time.
>=20
> The cost of these springs =C2=A3576.27 plus local taxes of $CDN107.20 (=C2=
=A363.01) for a total of =C2=A3639.28.
>=20
> We could have purchased Indian made reproduction springs, which we have us=
ed previously and are considerably more accurate aesthetically, from a local=
 supplier for about 30% of the cost from yourselves but based upon the claim=
s on your advertising opted to purchase what were reputed to be the best ava=
ilable.
>=20
> We do not believe that it is unreasonable of us to expect a full refund as=
 your product does not even come close to being what you advertise.
>=20
> We will be happy to return this defective product to you at your expense.
>=20
> Please advise.
>=20
>  Michael Salter
>=20
>=20
>=20
> The answer received from the General Manager of BCC served no useful purpo=
se and indicated that he should definitely seek a career in politics when BC=
C goes under.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> NOT RECOMMENDED
>=20
>=20
> On Mon., Oct. 25, 2021, 8:09 p.m. John Sims, <ahbn6@verizon.net> wrote:
>> Try britishclassiccarparts.com
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS
>>=20
>> On Monday, October 25, 2021, 8:05 PM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys <healeys@=
autox.team.net> wrote:
>>=20
>> Hi Michael -
>>=20
>> My experience is to have spring makers in the UK make them up.  There are=
 several there, and generally they know what they are doing.
>>=20
>> Best,
>>=20
>> Alan
>>=20
>> On Fri, 22 Oct 2021 at 2:26 AM, Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com> w=
rote:
>> As is so common with "offshore " products I'm having ongoing problems wit=
h the currently available rear springs, in particular those for the 100.
>> It seems that all the usual suspects source these from the same manufactu=
rer in India and it is my suspicion that these are made from substandard ste=
el.=20
>> Typically leaf springs are made from 5160 steel which is incredibly resis=
tant to deformation and fatigue. I don't have facilities to determine what s=
teel is used to make these springs but it certainly isn't 5160!!
>> Has anyone found a source for rear springs which last more than a few yea=
rs?
>>=20
>> M
>>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Wow=
. Makes me extra glad my dad made the effort to restore our BN2=E2=80=99s or=
iginal springs, including my sourcing new zinc interleaves from a guy who ha=
d bought a sheet and had them cut to spec on a shear.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Why is it so hard to get decent repop springs?</d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><b=
r><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Nov 22, 2021, at 2:38 PM, Michael Salter via H=
ealeys &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"=
auto">Well<span class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-seri=
f;font-size:small">, based</span> o<span class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fo=
nt-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">pon</span> the advice given<span=
 class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:sma=
ll"> and a carefully reading ofthe &nbsp; information on their web page <a h=
ref=3D"https://britishclassiccarparts.com/";>https://britishclassiccarparts.c=
om/</a></span> <span class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,sans=
-serif;font-size:small">=20
 which includes this statement:&nbsp; <i><b>BCC will only supply springs tha=
t comply, as best possible, with OEM specifications or better

</b></i></span>I ordered a pair of BN1<span class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D=
"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small"> rear springs. </span><br></d=
iv><div style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small" class=3D"gmai=
l_default">Initially I thought my order had not gone through because despite=
 their statement that=20
<i><b>"Your order confirmation from BCC will include basic dimensional=20
information on the spring you have ordered allowing you to check against
 the springs you are replacing" </b></i>I received no confirmation from BCC t=
hat the order had been received and the only way to confirm that it had inde=
ed been received aws to check my account withdrawals.</div><div style=3D"fon=
t-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small" class=3D"gmail_default">These spr=
ings are not inexpensive and ended up costing almost 3 times what they would=
 have cost from one of the usual suspects.</div><div style=3D"font-family:ar=
ial,sans-serif;font-size:small" class=3D"gmail_default">When I finally recei=
ved the shipment and had an opportunity to examine what had been supplied I w=
as far from impressed.</div><div style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-=
size:small" class=3D"gmail_default">This is my email sent to BCC regarding t=
heir <b><i>
"OEM specifications or better"</i></b> product. <br></div><div style=3D"font=
-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small" class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div>=
<div style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small" class=3D"gmail_d=
efault">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-siz=
e:11pt"><i><span style=3D"font-family:times new roman,serif">Dear Sirs, <spa=
n></span></span></i></p><i><span style=3D"font-family:times new roman,serif"=
>

</span></i><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:10=
7%;font-size:11pt"><i><span style=3D"font-family:times new roman,serif">We r=
ecently received from yourselves a pair of rear leaf
springs purchased for an Austin Healey 100 BN1 which we are restoring to con=
cours
level for a long-time customer.<span></span></span></i></p><i><span style=3D=
"font-family:times new roman,serif">

</span></i><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:10=
7%;font-size:11pt"><i><span style=3D"font-family:times new roman,serif">The p=
reamble on your web site states =E2=80=9C<b>BCC will only
supply springs that comply, as best possible, with OEM specifications or bet=
ter.=E2=80=9D<span></span></b></span></i></p><i><span style=3D"font-family:t=
imes new roman,serif">

</span></i><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:10=
7%;font-size:11pt"><i><span style=3D"font-family:times new roman,serif">You a=
lso state =E2=80=9C<b>Your order confirmation from BCC will
include basic dimensional information on the spring you have ordered allowin=
g
you to check against the springs you are replacing.=E2=80=9D </b>We received=
 neither
an order confirmation nor the dimensional information mentioned.<span></span=
></span></i></p><i><span style=3D"font-family:times new roman,serif">

</span></i><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:10=
7%;font-size:11pt"><i><span style=3D"font-family:times new roman,serif">The s=
prings that we have received do not come even close to
the OEM specifications for the springs for a BN1.<span></span></span></i></p=
><i><span style=3D"font-family:times new roman,serif">

</span></i><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:10=
7%;font-size:11pt"><i><span style=3D"font-family:times new roman,serif">Ther=
e were 3 types of leaf springs supplied for the BN1. The
final design, fitted after body number C.154647 was arrived at after much
experimentation as many owners experienced difficulties with the rear
suspension of these vehicles.<span></span></span></i></p><i><span style=3D"f=
ont-family:times new roman,serif">

</span></i><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:10=
7%;font-size:11pt"><i><span style=3D"font-family:times new roman,serif">The l=
ast type, part number 1B829, had the following
specifications:<span></span></span></i></p><i><span style=3D"font-family:tim=
es new roman,serif">

</span></i><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:10=
7%;font-size:11pt"><i><span style=3D"font-family:times new roman,serif">Free=
 length<span>&nbsp; </span>34.75=E2=80=9D <span></span></span></i></p><i><sp=
an style=3D"font-family:times new roman,serif">

</span></i><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:10=
7%;font-size:11pt"><i><span style=3D"font-family:times new roman,serif">Lade=
n length 36=E2=80=9D<span></span></span></i></p><i><span style=3D"font-famil=
y:times new roman,serif">

</span></i><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:10=
7%;font-size:11pt"><i><span style=3D"font-family:times new roman,serif">Free=
 camber 3.75=E2=80=9D<span></span></span></i></p><i><span style=3D"font-fami=
ly:times new roman,serif">

</span></i><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:10=
7%;font-size:11pt"><i><span style=3D"font-family:times new roman,serif">Lade=
n camber 0.25=E2=80=9D<span></span></span></i></p><i><span style=3D"font-fam=
ily:times new roman,serif">

</span></i><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:10=
7%;font-size:11pt"><i><span style=3D"font-family:times new roman,serif">Defl=
ection 4=E2=80=9D @ 490 lbs<span></span></span></i></p><i><span style=3D"fon=
t-family:times new roman,serif">

</span></i><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:10=
7%;font-size:11pt"><i><span style=3D"font-family:times new roman,serif">Numb=
er of leaves 8<span></span></span></i></p><i><span style=3D"font-family:time=
s new roman,serif">

</span></i><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:10=
7%;font-size:11pt"><i><span style=3D"font-family:times new roman,serif">Numb=
er of zinc interleaves 3<span></span></span></i></p><i><span style=3D"font-f=
amily:times new roman,serif">

</span></i><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:10=
7%;font-size:11pt"><i><span style=3D"font-family:times new roman,serif">6 re=
bound clips were used on each spring, 2 open to the top
and one, the outer, open to the bottom.<span></span></span></i></p><i><span s=
tyle=3D"font-family:times new roman,serif">

</span></i><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:10=
7%;font-size:11pt"><i><span style=3D"font-family:times new roman,serif">The r=
ebound clips were closed using =C2=BC=E2=80=9D UNF countersunk slot
screws with tubular spacers. <span></span></span></i></p><i><span style=3D"f=
ont-family:times new roman,serif">

</span></i><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:10=
7%;font-size:11pt"><i><span style=3D"font-family:times new roman,serif">A sp=
ecial extra-long =E2=80=9Ctoe bolt=E2=80=9D head was required to
penetrate the fiber pads and tapered spacers.<span></span></span></i></p><i>=
<span style=3D"font-family:times new roman,serif">

</span></i><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:10=
7%;font-size:11pt"><i><span style=3D"font-family:times new roman,serif">The s=
prings that you have supplied are absolutely unsuitable
for use on this vehicle and are <b>nothing like OEM specifications</b>.<span=
></span></span></i></p><i><span style=3D"font-family:times new roman,serif">=


</span></i><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:10=
7%;font-size:11pt"><i><span style=3D"font-family:times new roman,serif">In a=
ddition to the above the following are some of the other
problems that we have noticed with your product.<span></span></span></i></p>=
<i><span style=3D"font-family:times new roman,serif">

</span></i><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0in 0.5in;line-height:107%;font-size:1=
1pt"><i><span style=3D"font-family:times new roman,serif"><span>1.<span styl=
e=3D"font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7p=
t;line-height:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-feature-se=
ttings:normal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span>Free camber 4.75=E2=80=9D<span></span></span></i></p><i><span s=
tyle=3D"font-family:times new roman,serif">

</span></i><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0in 0.5in;line-height:107%;font-size:1=
1pt"><i><span style=3D"font-family:times new roman,serif"><span>2.<span styl=
e=3D"font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7p=
t;line-height:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-feature-se=
ttings:normal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span>No zinc interleaves at all.<span></span></span></i></p><i><spa=
n style=3D"font-family:times new roman,serif">

</span></i><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0in 0.5in;line-height:107%;font-size:1=
1pt"><i><span style=3D"font-family:times new roman,serif"><span>3.<span styl=
e=3D"font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7p=
t;line-height:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-feature-se=
ttings:normal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span>Metric thread hex head rebound clip screws (threatening
the tyre sidewalls)<span></span></span></i></p><i><span style=3D"font-family=
:times new roman,serif">

</span></i><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0in 0.5in;line-height:107%;font-size:1=
1pt"><i><span style=3D"font-family:times new roman,serif"><span>4.<span styl=
e=3D"font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7p=
t;line-height:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-feature-se=
ttings:normal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span>Short =E2=80=9Ctoe bolt=E2=80=9D heads (very dangerous as the
axle will be located by friction alone if these springs were to be installed=
)<span></span></span></i></p><i><span style=3D"font-family:times new roman,s=
erif">

</span></i><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0in 0.5in;line-height:107%;font-size:1=
1pt"><i><span style=3D"font-family:times new roman,serif"><span>5.<span styl=
e=3D"font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7p=
t;line-height:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-feature-se=
ttings:normal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span>Middle rebound clip installed upside down<span></span></span><=
/i></p><i><span style=3D"font-family:times new roman,serif">

</span></i><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 8pt 0.5in;line-height:107%;font-size:1=
1pt"><i><span style=3D"font-family:times new roman,serif"><span>6.<span styl=
e=3D"font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7p=
t;line-height:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-feature-se=
ttings:normal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span>Nothing locating the end rebound clips <span></span></span></i=
></p><i><span style=3D"font-family:times new roman,serif">

</span></i><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:10=
7%;font-size:11pt"><i><span style=3D"font-family:times new roman,serif">We h=
ave not bothered to install these springs because this would
obviously be a total waste of our time. <span></span></span></i></p><i><span=
 style=3D"font-family:times new roman,serif">

</span></i><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:10=
7%;font-size:11pt"><i><span style=3D"font-family:times new roman,serif">The c=
ost of these springs =C2=A3576.27 plus local taxes of $CDN107.20
(=C2=A363.01) for a total of =C2=A3639.28.<span></span></span></i></p><i><sp=
an style=3D"font-family:times new roman,serif">

</span></i><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:10=
7%;font-size:11pt"><i><span style=3D"font-family:times new roman,serif">We c=
ould have purchased Indian made reproduction springs,
which we have used previously and are considerably more accurate aesthetical=
ly,
from a local supplier for about 30% of the cost from yourselves but based up=
on
the claims on your advertising opted to purchase what were reputed to be the=

best available.<span></span></span></i></p><i><span style=3D"font-family:tim=
es new roman,serif">

</span></i><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:10=
7%;font-size:11pt"><i><span style=3D"font-family:times new roman,serif">We d=
o not believe that it is unreasonable of us to expect a
full refund as your product does not even come close to being what you adver=
tise.<span></span></span></i></p><i><span style=3D"font-family:times new rom=
an,serif">

</span></i><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:10=
7%;font-size:11pt"><i><span style=3D"font-family:times new roman,serif">We w=
ill be happy to return this defective product to you at
your expense.<span></span></span></i></p><i><span style=3D"font-family:times=
 new roman,serif">

</span></i><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:10=
7%;font-size:11pt"><i><span style=3D"font-family:times new roman,serif">Plea=
se advise.<span></span></span></i></p><i><span style=3D"font-family:times ne=
w roman,serif">

</span></i><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:10=
7%;font-size:11pt"><i><span style=3D"font-family:times new roman,serif">&nbs=
p;Michael Salter</span></i></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0i=
n 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt"><span style=3D"font-family:times new r=
oman,serif"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></span></span><=
/p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-=
size:11pt"><span style=3D"font-family:times new roman,serif"><span style=3D"=
font-family:arial,sans-serif">The answer received from the General Manager o=
f BCC served no useful purpose and indicated that he should definitely seek a=
 career in politics when BCC goes under.</span></span><i><span style=3D"font=
-family:times new roman,serif"><br></span></i></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" sty=
le=3D"margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt"><i><span style=3D"=
font-family:times new roman,serif"><font size=3D"4"><span style=3D"font-fami=
ly:arial,sans-serif"><br></span></font></span></i></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
 style=3D"margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt"><i><span style=
=3D"font-family:times new roman,serif"><font size=3D"4"><span style=3D"font-=
family:arial,sans-serif">NOT RECOMMENDED</span></font><br></span></i></p>

</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_a=
ttr">On Mon., Oct. 25, 2021, 8:09 p.m. John Sims, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ahbn=
6@verizon.net" target=3D"_blank">ahbn6@verizon.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><=
blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-le=
ft:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
Try <a href=3D"http://britishclassiccarparts.com"; rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D=
"_blank">britishclassiccarparts.com</a><div><br><br><br><a href=3D"https://a=
pps.apple.com/us/app/aol-news-email-weather-video/id646100661" rel=3D"norefe=
rrer" target=3D"_blank">Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS</a><br><br><p s=
tyle=3D"font-size:15px;color:rgb(113,95,250);padding-top:15px;margin-top:0px=
">On Monday, October 25, 2021, 8:05 PM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">hea=
leys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</p><blockquote><div id=3D"gmail-m_-697813=
2841228220431gmail-m_1129132632207409124gmail-m_5666412297485854156m_7977452=
422656917503yiv4138714625"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi Michael -</div><div><br>=
</div><div>My experience is to have spring makers in the UK make them up.&nb=
sp; There are several there, and generally they know what they are doing.<br=
><br>Best,</div><div><br></div><div>Alan</div></div><div><br><div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">On Fri, 22 Oct 2021 at 2:26 AM, Michael Salter &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow n=
oopener noreferrer noreferrer" href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com"; targe=
t=3D"_blank">michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote sty=
le=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);paddin=
g-left:1ex"><div>As is so common with "offshore " products I'm having ongoin=
g problems with the currently available rear springs, in particular those fo=
r the 100.<div>It seems that all the usual suspects source these from the sa=
me manufacturer in India and it is my suspicion that these are made from sub=
standard steel.&nbsp;</div><div>Typically leaf springs are made from 5160 st=
eel which is incredibly resistant to deformation and fatigue. I don't have f=
acilities to determine what steel is used to make these springs but it certa=
inly isn't 5160!!</div><div>Has anyone found a source for rear springs which=
 last more than a few years?</div><div><br></div><div>M</div><div><br></div>=
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