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To: Mark Bradakis <mark@bradakis.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] List archives
From: Steven Kingsbury via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
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Mark!Thanks for all the magic you do behind the scenes!=C2=A0Steven Kingsb=
uryBN1On Jan 6, 2022, at 8:45 AM, Mark Bradakis via Healeys <healeys@autox=
.team.net> wrote:First off, I made a slight change to the footer for the r=
eal time messages so that clicking on the second archive link takes you ri=
ght to the healeys archive, not the top level Team Net archive list.And no=
, when you type something into the search string box, it searches the ENTI=
RE healeys archive, you do not have to do it on a month by month basis.=C2=
=A0 For a while I was looking into having the capability to search the arc=
hives of ALL lists, as there are many problems that Healeys, Triumphs, MGs=
 et al have in common.=C2=A0 That seemed an insurmountable task given the =
tools at hand.That being said, I am not sure how long those archives will =
be searchable.=C2=A0 Currently the search engine behind it all is based on=
 MhonArc and Namazu, some software written decades ago, hasn't been suppor=
ted for years, no bug fixes, no maintenance patches, nothing like that.=C2=
=A0 It is basically, rusty, rotten software that I have been keeping toget=
her with bubble gum and bailing wire, like a 60 year old British car.I run=
 Fedora 29 on the Team Net server.=C2=A0 The current Fedora version is 35.=
=C2=A0 But if I update Team Net, the versions of perl and python would get=
 updated, and would most likely completely break the current archive colle=
ction and search capability.I could just say, "Too bad.=C2=A0 It's gone."=C2=
=A0 But there is TONS of info collected in the 30 years of email that has =
flowed through this machine.=C2=A0 It is nice to have it available.=C2=A0 =
And maybe using Google would be enough.Or maybe there are up to date, acti=
vely supported email/archive/search packages out there that would be a vas=
t improvement over the rickety house of cards that is the current situatio=
n.=C2=A0 Or maybe after over 30 years I could just say goodbye, and pull t=
he plug.=C2=A0 The end of the road.But I really don't want to do that.=C2=A0=
 I am 67, been doing Team Net nearly half my life.=C2=A0 Sometimes hard fo=
r me to believe that such a scatterbrained procrastinator like me, the man=
 behind the curtain, has kept the bits flowing for all these years.We shal=
l see what happens as we motor on in to our 4th decade of Team.Net - the d=
ot is not silent.mjb._______________________________________________Suppor=
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<html><body><div><div>Mark!<br></div><div>Thanks for all the magic you do 
behind the s=
cenes!&nbsp;<br></div><div>Steven Kingsbury<br></div><div>BN1</div><div><b=
r></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On Jan 6, 2022, at 8:45 AM, Mark Br=
adakis via Healeys &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:<br></div><div><br=
></div><div><br></div><div><div><div>First off, I made a slight change to =
the footer for the real time <br></div><div>messages so that clicking on t=
he second archive link takes you right to <br></div><div>the healeys archi=
ve, not the top level Team Net archive list.<br></div><div><br></div><div>=
And no, when you type something into the search string box, it searches <b=
r></div><div>the ENTIRE healeys archive, you do not have to do it on a mon=
th by month <br></div><div>basis.&nbsp; For a while I was looking into hav=
ing the capability to search <br></div><div>the archives of ALL lists, as =
there are many problems that Healeys, <br></div><div>Triumphs, MGs et al h=
ave in common.&nbsp; That seemed an insurmountable task <br></div><div>giv=
en the tools at hand.<br></div><div><br></div><div>That being said, I am n=
ot sure how long those archives will be <br></div><div>searchable.&nbsp; C=
urrently the search engine behind it all is based on <br></div><div>MhonAr=
c and Namazu, some software written decades ago, hasn't been <br></div><di=
v>supported for years, no bug fixes, no maintenance patches, nothing like =
<br></div><div>that.&nbsp; It is basically, rusty, rotten software that I =
have been keeping <br></div><div>together with bubble gum and bailing wire=
, like a 60 year old British car.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I run Fedor=
a 29 on the Team Net server.&nbsp; The current Fedora version is <br></div=
><div>35.&nbsp; But if I update Team Net, the versions of perl and python =
would get <br></div><div>updated, and would most likely completely break t=
he current archive <br></div><div>collection and search capability.<br></d=
iv><div><br></div><div>I could just say, "Too bad.&nbsp; It's gone."&nbsp;=
 But there is TONS of info <br></div><div>collected in the 30 years of ema=
il that has flowed through this <br></div><div>machine.&nbsp; It is nice t=
o have it available.&nbsp; And maybe using Google would <br></div><div>be =
enough.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Or maybe there are up to date, active=
ly supported email/archive/search <br></div><div>packages out there that w=
ould be a vast improvement over the rickety <br></div><div>house of cards =
that is the current situation.&nbsp; Or maybe after over 30 <br></div><div=
>years I could just say goodbye, and pull the plug.&nbsp; The end of the r=
oad.<br></div><div><br></div><div>But I really don't want to do that.&nbsp=
; I am 67, been doing Team Net nearly <br></div><div>half my life.&nbsp; S=
ometimes hard for me to believe that such a <br></div><div>scatterbrained =
procrastinator like me, the man behind the curtain, has <br></div><div>kep=
t the bits flowing for all these years.<br></div><div><br></div><div>We sh=
all see what happens as we motor on in to our 4th decade of <br></div><div=
>Team.Net - the dot is not silent.<br></div><div><br></div><div>mjb.<br></=
div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>____________________=
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