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Re: [Healeys] FW: FW: Oil leak from rear of engine

To: John Sims <ahbn6@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] FW: FW: Oil leak from rear of engine
From: Alan Seigrist <healey.nut@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2022 09:13:00 +0800
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Hi John -

That's a really nice presentation, hadn't seen it before.  Awesome!

Alan

On Fri, Jan 7, 2022 at 7:04 AM ahbn6--- via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
wrote:

>
> Photos and drawings can be found at:
>
> http://www.healey6.com/Technical/Modifications.pdf
>
> John Sims
> www.healey6.com
> Matawan, NJ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Bob Begani via
> Healeys
> Sent: Thursday, January 6, 2022 5:46 PM
> To: llennep@verizon.net
> Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
> Subject: [Healeys] FW: Oil leak from rear of engine
>
> Keith: you might like the conversation about an item that the factory did
> not install.  The box under the bell housing to catch the oil drips.  It
> really works and there are several members of this list who have one.
> Simple
> to make and install.
>
> The item the factory forgot to include..
>
>
>
>
> Bob Begani
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: healeymanjim <healeymanjim@hansencc.net>
> Sent: Thursday, January 6, 2022 12:39 PM
> To: rfbegani@gmail.com
> Subject: RE: [Healeys] Oil leak from rear of engine
>
> friend's bt7 had chattering clutch.  when we pulled trans discovered the
> oil
> seal housing and trans was shot.
> replaced seal and problem solved.
>
> >  -------Original Message-------
> >  From: rfbegani@gmail.com <rfbegani@gmail.com>
> >  To: 'healeymanjim' <healeymanjim@hansencc.net>
> >  Cc: goodstuff.17ft@gmail.com <goodstuff.17ft@gmail.com>
> >  Subject: RE: [Healeys] Oil leak from rear of engine
> >  Sent: Jan 06 '22 02:10
> >
> >  Yes, I found the same problem after rebuilding my engine 2 years ago.
> > We did install a real seal and thought the oil
> leak problem would be gone. Only my leaking is more serious and must be
> from
> the cam opening even though my machinist buddy applied sealer to the
> gasket.
> First, I Installed a PCV valve in a hose from the 2nd opening in the top of
> the rear intake manifold to the top of the valve cover T and created a
> negative pressure in the engine and crankcase thereby reduced the oil
> leaking into the bell housing, but not before coating the clutch disk. As a
> result, I have slippage at high-speed shifting.  2 weeks ago, I have
> installed the pan you have mentioned and the 1/8 copper line to the intake
> manifold. That has helped to keep most of the oil from dripping on the
> floor
> of my garage.  I am watching the color of my spark plugs to see if there is
> any problem fouling the last 3 plugs with oil.  So far so good.  I can now
> drive farther than
> 25 miles.  But I will still carry a gallon of oil just in case.
> >
> >  Nevertheless, there is still some dripping in front of the seam
> > between the backing plate and the engine. .   I am
> hoping to pull the trans and bell housing to replace the gasket with a
> heavy
> gasket and lots of modern sealing such as the Right Stuff to stop the leak
> permanently.as others have done. Any other suggestions while we are
> getting
> into the backing plate to stopping the oil leaks?
> >
> >  Only wish that I had known of the problem of the cam opening from you
> > and others before rebuilding the engine.  My
> brother and a mechanic friend say today's modern sealers allow metal to
> metal sealing without gaskets although on older engines it is best to use
> both.
> >
> >  Regards,
> >
> >  Bob Begani
> >
> >
> >  -----Original Message-----
> >  From: healeymanjim <healeymanjim@hansencc.net>
> >  Sent: Wednesday, January 5, 2022 10:34 PM
> >  To: rfbegani@gmail.com
> >  Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil leak from rear of engine
> >
> >  when i rebuilt my engine in 97 i put on a rear seal.  mine also
> > leaked and i pulled it apart again.  discovered oil coming
> down from cam.  there was no cam cap.  the gasket is all that holds the oil
> in.  replace gasket and have lived with a small oil drip since that time.
> i
> fabricated a drip pan and extended the rear manifold drain into the pan.
> vacuum from manifold sucks up the oil drop by drop.
> >
> >  >  -------Original Message-------
> >  >  From: rfbegani@gmail.com <rfbegani@gmail.com>  >  To:
> > healeys@autox.team.net <healeys@autox.team.net>  >  Subject: [Healeys]
> > Oil leak from rear of engine  >  Sent: Jan 05 '22 09:25  >  >  I know
> > there have been discussions on oil leak from the rear of the  >
> > engine. However, in reading through the archives I found this inquiry:
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >  When I rebuilt my AH3000 engine, I fitted an after market rear seal.
> >  >
> >  >  Unfortunately after I buttoned everything up and started the
> > engine I  >  >  discovered a troublesome oil leak. So out came the
> > gearbox, the  > clutch  >  >  >  flywheel and the engine back plate.
> > Upon careful examination of the  >  >  rear seal, I can find
> > absolutely no leak. However, there is oil  > weeping  >  >  from the
> > bearing cap that holds the cam in place.
> >  >
> >  >  Is this normal? Can the bearing be replaced with the engine in the
> > > car?
> >  >
> >  >  Thanks,
> >  >
> >  >  Larry Swift
> >  >
> >  >  There were no responses to the inquiry. So can the cap that holds
> > the  > cam in place be removed while the engine is in the car. Could
> > the cap  > be sealed from the outside with todays technology of
> > sealants? Also,  > according to the external engine diagrams in the
> > moss catalog it does  > not show the back of the engine or the cap.
> >  >
> >  >  Looking for answers to my continued oil leak problems.
> >  >
> >  >  Regards,
> >  >
> >  >  Bob Begani
> >  >  -------------------------
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi John -<div><br></div><div>That&#39;s a really nice pres=
entation, hadn&#39;t seen it before.=C2=A0 Awesome!</div><div><br></div><di=
v>Alan</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"=
gmail_attr">On Fri, Jan 7, 2022 at 7:04 AM ahbn6--- via Healeys &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br=
></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;=
border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
Photos and drawings can be found at:<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.healey6.com/Technical/Modifications.pdf"; rel=3D"noref=
errer" target=3D"_blank">http://www.healey6.com/Technical/Modifications.pdf=
</a><br>
<br>
John Sims<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.healey6.com"; rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">www=
.healey6.com</a><br>
Matawan, NJ<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=
=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; On Behalf Of Bob Begani =
via<br>
Healeys<br>
Sent: Thursday, January 6, 2022 5:46 PM<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:llennep@verizon.net"; target=3D"_blank">llennep@verizo=
n.net</a><br>
Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">healeys@aut=
ox.team.net</a><br>
Subject: [Healeys] FW: Oil leak from rear of engine<br>
<br>
Keith: you might like the conversation about an item that the factory did<b=
r>
not install.=C2=A0 The box under the bell housing to catch the oil drips.=
=C2=A0 It<br>
really works and there are several members of this list who have one. Simpl=
e<br>
to make and install.<br>
<br>
The item the factory forgot to include..<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Bob Begani<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: healeymanjim &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeymanjim@hansencc.net"; target=
=3D"_blank">healeymanjim@hansencc.net</a>&gt;<br>
Sent: Thursday, January 6, 2022 12:39 PM<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">rfbegani@gmail.=
com</a><br>
Subject: RE: [Healeys] Oil leak from rear of engine<br>
<br>
friend&#39;s bt7 had chattering clutch.=C2=A0 when we pulled trans discover=
ed the oil<br>
seal housing and trans was shot.=C2=A0 <br>
replaced seal and problem solved.<br>
<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 -------Original Message-------<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 From: <a href=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">rf=
begani@gmail.com</a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com"; target=3D"_b=
lank">rfbegani@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 To: &#39;healeymanjim&#39; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeymanjim@ha=
nsencc.net" target=3D"_blank">healeymanjim@hansencc.net</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:goodstuff.17ft@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank=
">goodstuff.17ft@gmail.com</a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:goodstuff.17ft@gmail.c=
om" target=3D"_blank">goodstuff.17ft@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 Subject: RE: [Healeys] Oil leak from rear of engine<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 Sent: Jan 06 &#39;22 02:10<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 Yes, I found the same problem after rebuilding my engine 2 years=
 ago. <br>
&gt; We did install a real seal and thought the oil<br>
leak problem would be gone. Only my leaking is more serious and must be fro=
m<br>
the cam opening even though my machinist buddy applied sealer to the gasket=
.<br>
First, I Installed a PCV valve in a hose from the 2nd opening in the top of=
<br>
the rear intake manifold to the top of the valve cover T and created a<br>
negative pressure in the engine and crankcase thereby reduced the oil<br>
leaking into the bell housing, but not before coating the clutch disk. As a=
<br>
result, I have slippage at high-speed shifting.=C2=A0 2 weeks ago, I have<b=
r>
installed the pan you have mentioned and the 1/8 copper line to the intake<=
br>
manifold. That has helped to keep most of the oil from dripping on the floo=
r<br>
of my garage.=C2=A0 I am watching the color of my spark plugs to see if the=
re is<br>
any problem fouling the last 3 plugs with oil.=C2=A0 So far so good.=C2=A0 =
I can now<br>
drive farther than<br>
25 miles.=C2=A0 But I will still carry a gallon of oil just in case.=C2=A0 =
<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 Nevertheless, there is still some dripping in front of the seam =
<br>
&gt; between the backing plate and the engine. .=C2=A0 =C2=A0I am<br>
hoping to pull the trans and bell housing to replace the gasket with a heav=
y<br>
gasket and lots of modern sealing such as the Right Stuff to stop the leak<=
br>
<a href=3D"http://permanently.as"; rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">perm=
anently.as</a> others have done. Any other suggestions while we are getting=
<br>
into the backing plate to stopping the oil leaks?<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 Only wish that I had known of the problem of the cam opening fro=
m you <br>
&gt; and others before rebuilding the engine.=C2=A0 My<br>
brother and a mechanic friend say today&#39;s modern sealers allow metal to=
<br>
metal sealing without gaskets although on older engines it is best to use<b=
r>
both.<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 Regards,<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 Bob Begani<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 -----Original Message-----<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 From: healeymanjim &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeymanjim@hansencc.n=
et" target=3D"_blank">healeymanjim@hansencc.net</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 Sent: Wednesday, January 5, 2022 10:34 PM<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 To: <a href=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">rfbe=
gani@gmail.com</a><br>
&gt;=C2=A0 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil leak from rear of engine<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 when i rebuilt my engine in 97 i put on a rear seal.=C2=A0 mine =
also <br>
&gt; leaked and i pulled it apart again.=C2=A0 discovered oil coming<br>
down from cam.=C2=A0 there was no cam cap.=C2=A0 the gasket is all that hol=
ds the oil<br>
in.=C2=A0 replace gasket and have lived with a small oil drip since that ti=
me.=C2=A0 i<br>
fabricated a drip pan and extended the rear manifold drain into the pan.<br=
>
vacuum from manifold sucks up the oil drop by drop.<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 <br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;=C2=A0 -------Original Message-------<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;=C2=A0 From: <a href=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com"; target=3D=
"_blank">rfbegani@gmail.com</a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com"; t=
arget=3D"_blank">rfbegani@gmail.com</a>&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;=C2=A0 To: <br>
&gt; <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">healeys@au=
tox.team.net</a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_b=
lank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;=C2=A0 Subject: [Healeys] <b=
r>
&gt; Oil leak from rear of engine=C2=A0 &gt;=C2=A0 Sent: Jan 05 &#39;22 09:=
25=C2=A0 &gt;=C2=A0 &gt;=C2=A0 I know <br>
&gt; there have been discussions on oil leak from the rear of the=C2=A0 &gt=
; <br>
&gt; engine. However, in reading through the archives I found this inquiry:=
<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;=C2=A0 When I rebuilt my AH3000 engine, I fitted an after ma=
rket rear seal.<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;=C2=A0 Unfortunately after I buttoned everything up and star=
ted the <br>
&gt; engine I=C2=A0 &gt;=C2=A0 &gt;=C2=A0 discovered a troublesome oil leak=
. So out came the <br>
&gt; gearbox, the=C2=A0 &gt; clutch=C2=A0 &gt;=C2=A0 &gt;=C2=A0 &gt;=C2=A0 =
flywheel and the engine back plate.<br>
&gt; Upon careful examination of the=C2=A0 &gt;=C2=A0 &gt;=C2=A0 rear seal,=
 I can find <br>
&gt; absolutely no leak. However, there is oil=C2=A0 &gt; weeping=C2=A0 &gt=
;=C2=A0 &gt;=C2=A0 from the <br>
&gt; bearing cap that holds the cam in place.<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;=C2=A0 Is this normal? Can the bearing be replaced with the =
engine in the<br>
&gt; &gt; car?<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;=C2=A0 Thanks,<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;=C2=A0 Larry Swift<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;=C2=A0 There were no responses to the inquiry. So can the ca=
p that holds <br>
&gt; the=C2=A0 &gt; cam in place be removed while the engine is in the car.=
 Could <br>
&gt; the cap=C2=A0 &gt; be sealed from the outside with todays technology o=
f <br>
&gt; sealants? Also,=C2=A0 &gt; according to the external engine diagrams i=
n the <br>
&gt; moss catalog it does=C2=A0 &gt; not show the back of the engine or the=
 cap.<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;=C2=A0 Looking for answers to my continued oil leak problems=
.<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;=C2=A0 Regards,<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;=C2=A0 Bob Begani<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 &gt;=C2=A0 -------------------------<br>
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