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I've reused nylock nuts, adding blue threadlocker. Never an issue in
over 100K miles.
On 5/9/2022 12:03 PM, john harper via Healeys wrote:
> Michael
>
> This reminds me of a major problem that I had with Nyloc nuts. When I
> was working on a BN1 rear hub a well-known supplier offered me Nylocs
> rather than the standard all-metal wheel nuts.
>
> I fitted the nuts and torqued up to the usual figure of about 65
> pounds-feet. After some miles of running the hub extension became
> loose and started to work through the wheel studs. I managed to stop
> with only two studs remaining. I was lucky because I could have lost
> the whole wheel on a busy A road.
>
> After checking I realized that using Nyloc nuts torqued to the
> standard tightness was not right. I now, if I use them at all. fit the
> nuts and test what torque reading is used just to turn the nut loose
> on the wheel stud; it is about 20 pounds-feet in my case. I then
> add this torque measurement to give about 85 pounds-feet; 20 for the
> nut and 65 left to do the job as originally intended
>
> On Mon, 9 May 2022 at 17:02, Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Yep Richard according to the parts books that's correct for 6
> cylinder cars.
> As a matter of interest the late BN1's and BN2's ( 5 stud hub) use
> 8 plain nuts but call for only 4 spring washers?? Weird ... I'll
> have to look into that one ... there has to be a good reason.
>
> M
>
> On Mon., May 9, 2022, 11:41 a.m. Ricchardd Mayor,
> <boyracer466@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Mark,
>
> I checked another rear end yesterday that had never been apart
> and it also has the nyloc nuts and no washers.
>
> Richard Mayor
> boyracer466@gmail.com
>
>
>> On May 7, 2022, at 6:21 PM, Michael Oritt via Healeys
>> <healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>> Mark--
>>
>> Since the bolts are not--or at least should not--be rotating
>> you don't need lock washers.
>> Yes, you should have flat washers under both the bolt and nut
>> to spread the load.
>>
>> Best--Michael Oritt
>>
>> On Sat, May 7, 2022 at 6:27 PM Mark Donaldson via Healeys
>> <healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>> Learned gentlemen,
>>
>> When I took the backing plates off the rear axle of my
>> â??62 BT7 race car the four bolts each side had Nyloc nuts,
>> with lock washers underneath.
>>
>> With the lock washer in place the top of the thread did
>> not connect with the nylon â?? but it did with the washer
>> removed.
>>
>> The parts book shows just the bolts and nuts. It does
>> not show any washers.
>>
>> As the car was built in Hayward, CA, in the mid-seventies
>> as a track car, there is much about it which is not standard.
>>
>> My questions are:
>>
>> 1. Are the Nyloc nuts correct and, if not, what should
>> be there?
>> 2. Is it correct to have no washers under the nuts? I
>> would have though it correct to have at least a thin
>> flat washer, even though the parts book appears to
>> show none.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> Ardmore
>>
>> NZ
>>
>> <image002.png>
>>
>>
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I've reused nylock nuts, adding blue threadlocker. Never an issue in
over 100K miles.<br>
<br>
<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Michael
<div><br>
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<div>This reminds me of a major problem that I had with Nyloc
nuts. When I was working on a BN1 rear hub a well-known
supplier offered me Nylocs rather than the standard all-metal
wheel nuts.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I fitted the nuts and torqued up to the usual figure of
about 65Â <span
style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Roboto,sans-serif">p</span><span
style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Roboto,sans-serif">ou</span><span
style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Roboto,sans-serif">nds-feet</span>.
After some miles of running the hub extension became loose and
started to work through the wheel studs. I managed to stop
with only two studs remaining. I was lucky because I could
have lost the whole wheel on a busy A road.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>After checking I realized that using Nyloc nuts torqued to
the standard tightness was not right. I now, if I use them at
all. fit the nuts and test what torque reading is used just to
turn the nut loose on the wheel stud; it is about 20Â <span
style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Roboto,sans-serif">pounds-feet
in my case. I then add</span>Â this torque measurement to
give about 85Â <span
style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Roboto,sans-serif">pounds-feet;</span>Â 20
for the nut and 65 left to do the job as originally intended</div>
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<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 9 May 2022 at 17:02,
Michael Salter <<a href="mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com";
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">Yep Richard according to the parts books
that's correct for 6 cylinder cars.Â
<div dir="auto">As a matter of interest the late BN1's and
BN2's ( 5 stud hub) use 8 plain nuts but call for only 4
spring washers?? Weird ... I'll have to look into that one
... there has to be a good reason.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">M</div>
</div>
<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon., May 9, 2022,
11:41 a.m. Ricchardd Mayor, <<a
href="mailto:boyracer466@gmail.com"; rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">boyracer466@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;">Mark,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I checked another rear end yesterday that had never
been apart and it also has the nyloc nuts and no
washers. </div>
<div><br>
<div>
Richard Mayor<br>
<a href="mailto:boyracer466@gmail.com";
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">boyracer466@gmail.com</a><br>
<br>
</div>
<br>
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<div>On May 7, 2022, at 6:21 PM, Michael Oritt via
Healeys <<a
href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">healeys@autox.team.net</a>>
wrote:</div>
<br>
<div>
<div dir="ltr">
<div class="gmail_default"
style="color:rgb(51,51,255)">Mark--</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="color:rgb(51,51,255)"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="color:rgb(51,51,255)">Since the bolts
are not--or at least should not--be rotating
you don't need lock washers.</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="color:rgb(51,51,255)">Yes, you should
have flat washers under both the bolt and
nut to spread the load.</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="color:rgb(51,51,255)"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="color:rgb(51,51,255)">Best--Michael
Oritt</div>
</div>
<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, May
7, 2022 at 6:27 PM Mark Donaldson via
Healeys <<a
href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
rel="noreferrer noreferrer"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">healeys@autox.team.net</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
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style="margin:0px 0px 0px
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"
lang="EN-US">Learned gentlemen,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"
lang="EN-US">Â </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"
lang="EN-US">When I took the backing
plates off the rear axle of my â??62
BT7 race car the four bolts each
side had Nyloc nuts, with lock
washers underneath.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"
lang="EN-US">With the lock washer in
place the top of the thread did not
connect with the nylon â?? but it did
with the washer removed.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"
lang="EN-US">The parts book shows
just the bolts and nuts. It does
not show any washers.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"
lang="EN-US">As the car was built in
Hayward, CA, in the mid-seventies as
a track car, there is much about it
which is not standard.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"
lang="EN-US">Â </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"
lang="EN-US">My questions are:Â </span></p>
<ol style="margin-top:0cm" type="1"
start="1">
<li style="margin-left:0cm"><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"
lang="EN-US">Are the Nyloc nuts
correct and, if not, what should
be there?</span></li>
<li style="margin-left:0cm"><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"
lang="EN-US">Is it correct to have
no washers under the nuts? I
would have though it correct to
have at least a thin flat washer,
even though the parts book appears
to show none.</span></li>
</ol>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"
lang="EN-US">Â </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"
lang="EN-US">Mark</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"
lang="EN-US">Â </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"
lang="EN-US">Ardmore</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"
lang="EN-US">NZ</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"
lang="EN-US">Â </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"
lang="EN-US"><image002.png></span><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif" lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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