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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Distributor guy
From: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2022 22:29:52 -0400
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I've had the pleasure of replacing a set of contact points alongside the
road in the dark.  If you don't get the stack of insulating washers and
parts correct you are going nowhere and it's awfully easy to drop one of
the bits down and under the car--with the same result.

I put a Mallory Unilite distributor/ignition system in my Healey about
twenty years ago with absolutely no issue other than a cracked external
ballast resistor and about three years ago I replaced the module simply
because I did not want to push my luck any further.  On long trips I carry
a spare distributor with drive dog attached, allowing for quick and easy
replacement and no need to worry about timing so long as I pay careful
attention to the positions of the rotor and distributor body when switching
things out.

On my race cars I use Pertronix modules simply because the failure mode is
almost always total which makes diagnosis much easier whereas with points
there is one more component (the condenser) plus very often when points
ignitions go bad the problem is often partial and/or intermittent,
resulting in more time lost trying to diagnose the problem with more
sessions lost due to having more possibilities to eliminate.

Best--Michael Oritt

On Mon, Aug 29, 2022 at 8:47 PM warthodson--- via Healeys <
healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:

> Since Pertronix don't have points I guess the answer is: "the car would
> not have been disabled due to the points failing".
> Gary
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dwflagg--- via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
> To: ahbn6@verizon.net
> Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
> Sent: Mon, Aug 29, 2022 12:00 pm
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Distributor guy
>
> *Also, years ago whilst traveling the New York State Thruway I came upon =
a
> disabled Austin Healey whilst driving my own to a fraternity **brother's
> wedding. This was before cell phones. Disabled vehicles were at the mercy
> of tow trucks and **exorbitant fees. It was **determined** there was no
> spark. With no tools but just a nail clipper with a nail file, we filed t=
he
> **points,** and were both on our **way! Try** that with a Pertronix unit!=
*
>
> *Doug*
> *To add more fuel to the fire, while driving on the freeway in Las Vegas
> years ago I had the rotor on my BN6 split in two. A highway patrolman
> stopped and repaired it with super glue and a rubber band. I limped home =
15
> miles =E2=80=93 put on another rotor and kept a spare for safety and the =
repaired
> one in the parcel shelve for memories. Try that with a Pertronix unit*
>
> *John Sims*
> *www.healey6.com <http://www.healey6.com/>*
> *Matawan, NJ*
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Jim Ryan
> *Sent:* Monday, August 29, 2022 10:12 AM
> *To:* patrick williams <2x2doc@gmail.com>
> *Cc:* List Healey <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Distributor guy
>
> Just wondering, the debate between this unit and the original points has
> always been that you can replace the points in the event of a failure on
> the side of the road. How difficult is it to replace this unit in the sam=
e
> manner if you carried a spare, and what would the cost be for that spare?
> I'm referring to a1958 Bugeye here.
>
> On Mon, Aug 29, 2022, 8:21 AM patrick williams <2x2doc@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> It's been close to 20 years ago, but Jeff rebuilt my distributor,
> including the vacuum advance diaphram, and put in a pertronix unit.  I'm
> very happy with the results.
> Pat Williams
> 1960 BT7
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">I&#39=
;ve had the pleasure of replacing a set of contact points=C2=A0alongside th=
e road in the dark.=C2=A0 If you don&#39;t get the stack of insulating wash=
ers and parts correct you are going nowhere and it&#39;s awfully easy to dr=
op one=C2=A0of the bits down and under the car--with the same result.=C2=A0=
=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div>=
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">I put a Mallory Unilit=
e distributor/ignition system in my Healey about twenty years ago with abso=
lutely=C2=A0no issue other than a cracked external ballast resistor and abo=
ut three years ago I replaced=C2=A0the module simply because I did not want=
 to push my luck any further.=C2=A0 On long trips I carry a spare distribut=
or with drive dog attached, allowing for quick and easy replacement=C2=A0an=
d no need to worry about timing so long as I pay careful attention to the p=
ositions of the rotor and distributor body when switching things=C2=A0out.<=
/div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">On my race cars I use Pertron=
ix modules simply because the failure mode is almost always total which mak=
es diagnosis much easier whereas=C2=A0with points there is one more compone=
nt=C2=A0(the condenser) plus very often when points ignitions go bad the pr=
oblem is often partial and/or intermittent, resulting in more time lost try=
ing to diagnose the problem with more sessions lost due to having more poss=
ibilities to eliminate.=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"co=
lor:#3333ff"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"=
>Best--Michael Oritt</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"=
ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 29, 2022 at 8:47 PM warthodson--- via=
 Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">he=
aleys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quo=
te" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204=
);padding-left:1ex">
<div style=3D"color:black;font:12pt &quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;,sans-serif">S=
ince Pertronix don&#39;t have points I guess the answer is: &quot;the car w=
ould not have been disabled due to the points failing&quot;.=C2=A0<br>
Gary<br>
<br>

<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black"><font=
 size=3D"2">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: dwflagg--- via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:ahbn6@verizon.net"; target=3D"_blank">ahbn6@verizon.ne=
t</a><br>
Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">healeys@aut=
ox.team.net</a><br>
Sent: Mon, Aug 29, 2022 12:00 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Distributor guy<br>
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5893998475483822937yiv3368558838">
<div>
<div><strong><span style=3D"font-size:12pt">Also, years ago whilst travelin=
g the New York State Thruway I came upon a disabled Austin Healey whilst dr=
iving my own to a fraternity=C2=A0</span></strong><strong><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:12pt">brother&#39;s wedding. This was before cell phones. Disabled =
vehicles were at the mercy of tow trucks and=C2=A0</span></strong><strong s=
tyle=3D"font-size:16px">exorbitant fees. It was </strong><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:16px"><strong>determined</strong></span><strong style=3D"font-size:1=
6px">=C2=A0there was no spark. With no tools but just a nail clipper with a=
 nail file, we filed the </strong><span style=3D"font-size:16px"><strong>po=
ints,</strong></span><strong style=3D"font-size:16px">=C2=A0and were both o=
n our=C2=A0</strong><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Arial B=
lack&quot;,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:16px"><strong>way! Try</str=
ong></span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial Black&quot;,sans-serif"><=
span style=3D"font-size:12pt"><strong>=C2=A0that with a Pertronix unit!</st=
rong></span></span></span></div>


<div>=C2=A0</div>


<div><strong><span style=3D"font-size:12pt">Doug</span></strong></div>

<h1><strong style=3D"font-size:10pt"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-fam=
ily:&quot;Arial Black&quot;,sans-serif">To add more fuel to the fire, while=
 driving on the freeway in Las Vegas years ago I had the rotor on my BN6 sp=
lit in two. A highway patrolman stopped and repaired it with super glue and=
 a rubber band. I limped home 15 miles =E2=80=93 put on another rotor and k=
ept a spare for safety and the repaired one in the parcel shelve for memori=
es. Try that with a Pertronix unit</span></strong></h1>

<div>

<div><strong><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Arial Black&qu=
ot;,sans-serif">=C2=A0</span></strong></div>


<div><strong><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Arial Black&qu=
ot;,sans-serif">John Sims</span></strong></div>


<div><strong><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Arial Black&qu=
ot;,sans-serif"><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" href=
=3D"http://www.healey6.com/"; target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"color:rgb(5,9=
9,193)">www.healey6.com</span></a></span></strong></div>


<div><strong><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Arial Black&qu=
ot;,sans-serif">Matawan, NJ</span></strong></div>


<div><strong><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Arial Black&qu=
ot;,sans-serif">=C2=A0</span></strong></div>


<div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-=
top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in">

<div><strong>From:</strong> Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@a=
utox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; <st=
rong>On Behalf Of </strong>Jim Ryan<br clear=3D"none"><strong>Sent:</strong=
> Monday, August 29, 2022 10:12 AM<br clear=3D"none"><strong>To:</strong> p=
atrick williams &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:2x2doc@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">2=
x2doc@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><strong>Cc:</strong> List Healey =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">healeys@aut=
ox.team.net</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [Healey=
s] Distributor guy</div>

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<div>=C2=A0</div>


<div>

<div>Just wondering, the debate between this unit and the original points h=
as always been that you can replace the points in the event of a failure on=
 the side of the road. How difficult is it to replace this unit in the same=
 manner if you carried a spare, and what would the cost be for that spare? =
I&#39;m referring to a1958 Bugeye here.</div>

</div>


<div>=C2=A0</div>


<div>

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5893998475483822937yiv3368558838yqt58837">
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<div>On Mon, Aug 29, 2022, 8:21 AM patrick williams &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow =
noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:2x2doc@gmail.com"; target=
=3D"_blank">2x2doc@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div>

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order-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4=
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<div>

<div>It&#39;s been close to 20 years ago, but Jeff rebuilt my distributor, =
including the vacuum advance diaphram, and put in a pertronix unit.=C2=A0 I=
&#39;m very happy with the results.</div>


<div>

<div>Pat Williams</div>

</div>


<div>

<div>1960 BT7</div>

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