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</div><div dir=3D"ltr">I=E2=80=99m shocked you still have leaded fuel Josef.=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Because there are a lot more issues than lead.&=
nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr">But clearly, your 1960=E2=80=99s spark plugs cop=
e with all of them. </div><div dir=3D"ltr">Because lead made a differen=
ce. </div><div dir=3D"ltr">But obviously not in Europe </div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">Sincerely </div><div dir=3D"ltr">Chris. </div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">Sydney Australia </div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><blockquote type=3D"cite">On 5 May 2023, at 7:4=
9 pm, Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:<br><=
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<p>In extreme cases you may burn a hole in your pistons.<br>
Kees</p>
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<div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">Op 4-5-2023 om 21:58 schreef
josef-eckert--- via Healeys:<br>
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<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,s=
ans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">Richard,<br>
Just do what you want. Its your car, your engine, I do not
mind.<br>
</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"> </p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,s=
ans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none">Josef</span></p=
>
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ans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;text-decoration:none"> </span></=
p>
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<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">-----Original-Nachricht-----</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Spark plug gap</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">Datum: 2023-05-04T16:10:56+0200</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">Von: "Ricchardd Mayor"
<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:boyracer466@gmail.=
com"><boyracer466@gmail.com></a></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;">An: <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D=
"mailto:josef-eckert@t-online.de";>"josef-eckert@t-online.de"</a>
<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:josef-eckert@t-onl=
ine.de"><josef-eckert@t-online.de></a></p>
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<div style=3D"position: relative; color: #000000; font: 12px
Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;">On no! Who knew that gapping your=
plugs at .032 would ruin your engine. Thank you Josef for saving
us.
<div class=3D""> </div>
<div class=3D"">Richard Mayor
<div class=3D""><a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"mailto:=
boyracer466@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">boyracer466@gmail.com</a><br=
class=3D"">
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</div>
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<div>
<blockquote class=3D"">
<div class=3D"">On May 4, 2023, at 4:43 AM, josef-eckert---
via Healeys <<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"m=
ailto:healeys@autox.team.net" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">healeys@autox.team.ne=
t</a>>
wrote:</div>
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<div class=3D"">
<div class=3D"">
<div class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span class=3D"" st=
yle=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 10pt; text-decoration: none;">Sorry, I
am out here. This guy wants to play till the
engine is shot.<br class=3D"">
</span></div>
<p class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span class=3D"" styl=
e=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 10pt; text-decoration: none;"> </span>=
</p>
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<p class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0px;"> </p>
<div class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0px;">-----Original-Nachr=
icht-----</div>
<div class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0px;">Betreff: RE:
[Healeys] Spark plug gap</div>
<div class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0px;">Datum:
2023-05-04T12:45:37+0200</div>
<div class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0px;">Von: "<a class=3D"m=
oz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com"; moz-=
do-not-send=3D"true">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>"
<<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"mailto:si=
mon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">simon.lachlan@alex=
arevel.plus.com</a>></div>
<div class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0px;">An: "<a class=3D"mo=
z-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"mailto:josef-eckert@t-online.de"; moz-do-not-sen=
d=3D"true">josef-eckert@t-online.de</a>"
<<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"mailto:jo=
sef-eckert@t-online.de" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">josef-eckert@t-online.de</a=
>></div>
<p class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0px;"> </p>
<p class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0px;"> </p>
<p class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0px;"> </p>
<div class=3D"" style=3D"position: relative; font-style:
normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal;
font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family:
Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D"" style=3D"mso-f=
areast-language: EN-US;">Thanks
for that. I=E2=80=99ll certainly bear it in mind.
Likewise, I=E2=80=99ll keep a close eye on my engi=
ne=E2=80=99s
temperature. The latter is quite well
protected with a modern rad, all the correct
baffles, 5 blade fan plus electronic fan. But,
as I said, I=E2=80=99ll keep an eye on it.</span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D"" style=3D"mso-f=
areast-language: EN-US;">Someone
mentioned that he used =E2=80=9CIridium=E2=80=9D p=
lugs from
NGK. I googled them=E2=80=A6.horribly expensive. C=
an
they be worth it in our old cars?</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D"" style=3D"mso-f=
areast-language: EN-US;">Simon</span></p>
<div class=3D""><span class=3D"" style=3D"mso-fareast-=
language: EN-US;"> </span></div>
<div class=3D"">
<div class=3D"" style=3D"border: none; border-top:
solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt; padding: 3.0pt 0cm 0cm
0cm;">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><strong class=3D""><span cl=
ass=3D"" lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></strong><span class=3D"" lang=3D"EN-US"=
> <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"mailto:josef-eckert@t-online.de=
" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">josef-eckert@t-online.de</a>
<<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D=
"mailto:josef-eckert@t-online.de"; moz-do-not-send=3D"true">josef-eckert@t-on=
line.de</a>>
<br class=3D"">
<strong class=3D"">Sent:</strong> 04 May
2023 07:06<br class=3D"">
<strong class=3D"">To:</strong> <a class=3D"mo=
z-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com"; moz-d=
o-not-send=3D"true">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>;
Healey, Forum <<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-fre=
etext" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; moz-do-not-send=3D"true">heale=
ys@autox.team.net</a>><br class=3D"">
<strong class=3D"">Subject:</strong> AW:
[Healeys] Spark plug gap</span></p>
</div>
</div>
<div class=3D""> </div>
<div class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span class=3D"=
" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial,
sans-serif;">For me, i prefer Champion plugs
plugs to NGK, but that=C2=B4s a matter of taste. I=
think both, Champion and NGK, are of similar
quality. Matter of taste, as I wrote. But NOT
the car manufacturer determines the plug gap,
its the plug manufacturer. Definitely the car
manufacturer takes this for his specs in the
workshop manual.</span></div>
<div class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span class=3D"=
" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial,
sans-serif;">There is to much hype about plugs
anyway. I am working as a professional,
Elecrtonics and Elecrtrcian engineer, at a big
classic car parts supplier here in Europe and
I never go away from the given plug gap as set
by the plug manufacturer. Austin-Healey
engines are not high tech, they are tractor
engines and can take a lot of misfit, but
anyway BMC knew at the time what=C2=B4s best to do=
with them, even its printed 60 or 70 years
ago.</span></div>
<div class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span class=3D"=
" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial,
sans-serif;">Some people try to adjust the
fuel mixture with a CO-tester. You can do
that, but it doesn=C2=B4t give best results for
road use, especially in hotter climates and
high above sea level. </span></div>
<div class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span class=3D"=
" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial,
sans-serif;">When you are very good in engine
engineering and have all the tools you can try
to find some more horsepower in your engine,
but you always pay that with some more heat
produced, which is not at all good for our old
BMC engines.</span></div>
<p class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0px;"> </p>
<div class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span class=3D"=
" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial,
sans-serif;">Josef</span></div>
<p class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span class=3D"" s=
tyle=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial,
sans-serif;"> </span></p>
<p class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0px;"> </p>
<p class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0px;"> </p>
<div class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0px;">-----Original-N=
achricht-----</div>
<div class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0px;">Betreff: RE:
[Healeys] Spark plug gap</div>
<div class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0px;">Datum:
2023-05-04T00:06:58+0200</div>
<div class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0px;">Von: "<a class=3D=
"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com"; mo=
z-do-not-send=3D"true">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>"
<<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"mailt=
o:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">simon.lachlan@=
alexarevel.plus.com</a>></div>
<div class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0px;">An: "<a class=3D=
"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"mailto:josef-eckert@t-online.de"; moz-do-not-=
send=3D"true">josef-eckert@t-online.de</a>"
<<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"mailt=
o:josef-eckert@t-online.de" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">josef-eckert@t-online.d=
e</a>></div>
<p class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0px;"> </p>
<p class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0px;"> </p>
<p class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0px;"> </p>
<div class=3D"">
<div class=3D"">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt=
: auto;
mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span class=3D"" s=
tyle=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial,
sans-serif;">You may be right. Not sure. </spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt=
: auto;
mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span class=3D"" s=
tyle=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial,
sans-serif;">Actually I thought that the
gap was determined by the car=E2=80=99s
manufacturer ie one could expect to find
the same plug in two different cars and to
find that the recommended gap was not the
same for each car.</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt=
: auto;
mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span class=3D"" s=
tyle=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial,
sans-serif;">Likewise, the BMC manual
suggests Champion plugs at 0.024=E2=80=9D to
0.026=E2=80=9D and that was some 60+ years ago=
.
I=E2=80=99ve always been told that Champion pl=
ugs
aren=E2=80=99t the best in the world and I=E2=80=
=99m sure
that a modern NGK can stand a little more
heat than the Champions that were around
60 years ago.</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt=
: auto;
mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span class=3D"" s=
tyle=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial,
sans-serif;">Anyhow, I=E2=80=99ll keep an eye o=
n
them. I=E2=80=99m a pretty tame driver so ther=
e
won=E2=80=99t be undue stress under the bonnet=
.</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt=
: auto;
mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span class=3D"" s=
tyle=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial,
sans-serif;">Simon</span></p>
<div class=3D""><span class=3D"" style=3D"font-siz=
e:
9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"> </=
span></div>
<div class=3D"">
<div class=3D"" style=3D"border: none;
border-top: solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt; padding:
3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top=
-alt: auto;
mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><strong class=3D=
""><span class=3D"" style=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family:
Arial, sans-serif;" lang=3D"EN-US">From:=
</span></strong><span class=3D"" style=3D"font-size: 9pt;
font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" lang=3D"E=
N-US"> <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"mailto:josef-eckert@t-onli=
ne.de" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">josef-eckert@t-online.de</a>
<<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" hre=
f=3D"mailto:josef-eckert@t-online.de"; moz-do-not-send=3D"true">josef-eckert@=
t-online.de</a>>
<br class=3D"">
<strong class=3D""><span class=3D"" style=3D=
"font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif;">Sent:</span></str=
ong>
03 May 2023 20:56<br class=3D"">
<strong class=3D""><span class=3D"" style=3D=
"font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif;">To:</span></stron=
g>
<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D=
"mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com"; moz-do-not-send=3D"true">simon.la=
chlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>;
<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D=
"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; moz-do-not-send=3D"true">healeys@autox.team.=
net</a><br class=3D"">
<strong class=3D""><span class=3D"" style=3D=
"font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif;">Subject:</span></=
strong>
AW: [Healeys] Spark plug gap</span></p>
</div>
</div>
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e:
9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"> </=
span></div>
<div class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span class=
=3D"" style=3D"font-size: 10pt;
font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">Spark
plugs are designed and tested to be used
with the gap given by the producer of the
spark plug.</span></div>
<div class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span class=
=3D"" style=3D"font-size: 10pt;
font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">When you
widen the gap the plug gets hotter as it
is designed for and the electrode can melt
or wear very fast.</span></div>
<div class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span class=
=3D"" style=3D"font-size: 10pt;
font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">Its a
very short win you gain modifying them.</span>=
</div>
<div class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span class=
=3D"" style=3D"font-size: 10pt;
font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">I never
understand why people think they are
better engineers and know better than the
designers of the system they use.</span></div>=
<p class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span class=3D=
"" style=3D"font-size: 9pt;
font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"> </span>=
</p>
<div class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span class=
=3D"" style=3D"font-size: 10pt;
font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">Josef </span>=
</div>
<p class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span class=3D=
"" style=3D"font-size: 9pt;
font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"> </span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span class=3D=
"" style=3D"font-size: 10pt;
font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"> </span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span class=3D=
"" style=3D"font-size: 9pt;
font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"> </span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span class=3D=
"" style=3D"font-size: 9pt;
font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"> </span>=
</p>
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=3D"" style=3D"font-size: 9pt;
font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">-----Original=
-Nachricht-----</span></div>
<div class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span class=
=3D"" style=3D"font-size: 9pt;
font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">Betreff:
[Healeys] Spark plug gap</span></div>
<div class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span class=
=3D"" style=3D"font-size: 9pt;
font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">Datum:
2023-05-03T21:39:57+0200</span></div>
<div class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span class=
=3D"" style=3D"font-size: 9pt;
font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">Von:
"Simon Lachlan via Healeys" <<a class=3D"mo=
z-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; moz-do-not-send=3D=
"true">healeys@autox.team.net</a>></span></div>
<div class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span class=
=3D"" style=3D"font-size: 9pt;
font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">An:
"'Healeys'" <<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freet=
ext" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; moz-do-not-send=3D"true">healeys=
@autox.team.net</a>></span></div>
<p class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span class=3D=
"" style=3D"font-size: 9pt;
font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"> </span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span class=3D=
"" style=3D"font-size: 9pt;
font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"> </span>=
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<p class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span class=3D=
"" style=3D"font-size: 9pt;
font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"> </span>=
</p>
<div class=3D"">
<div class=3D"">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top=
-alt: auto;
mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span class=3D=
"" style=3D"font-size: 9pt;
font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">I run
my MkII BT7 on NGK BP6ES which were
recommended by some of the wise ones
on this list.</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top=
-alt: auto;
mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span class=3D=
"" style=3D"font-size: 9pt;
font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">The
car has a =E2=80=9CSports=E2=80=9D coil an=
d a
123Ignition distributor. DW fast road
cam=E2=80=A6etc</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top=
-alt: auto;
mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span class=3D=
"" style=3D"font-size: 9pt;
font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">Now,
talking of =E2=80=9Crecommended=E2=80=9D, t=
he rolling
road guys told me to set the plugs at
0.028=E2=80=9D and pooh-poohed anything bi=
gger
when I suggested that I=E2=80=99d heard of=
much greater gaps with my approximate
setup.</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top=
-alt: auto;
mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span class=3D=
"" style=3D"font-size: 9pt;
font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">So, I
went with 0.028.</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top=
-alt: auto;
mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span class=3D=
"" style=3D"font-size: 9pt;
font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">The
other day, I decided to experiment and
set my spare set at 0.032=E2=80=9D. Same N=
GKs,
no mileage on them..decent plugs.
Anyhow, it made a very surprising
difference. All round performance is
much enhanced.</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top=
-alt: auto;
mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span class=3D=
"" style=3D"font-size: 9pt;
font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">Despite
it=E2=80=99s 3:54 diff and 28% OD, it was
never sluggish on our local hills. But
now it fairly zooms up them.</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top=
-alt: auto;
mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span class=3D=
"" style=3D"font-size: 9pt;
font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">To be
frank, all a bit of a surprise.</span></p>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top=
-alt: auto;
mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span class=3D=
"" style=3D"font-size: 9pt;
font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">Not
boasting=E2=80=A6just putting that out the=
re
in case anyone else is thinking of
going up a few thou=E2=80=A6..</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top=
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mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span class=3D=
"" style=3D"font-size: 9pt;
font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">When
I asked about gaps a few years back,
some of the suggestions were near
0.040=E2=80=9D. Surely that a bit much?</s=
pan></p>
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