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Absolutely. The brake drums are likely to be far more out of balance than
the tires, if the drums on every Healey I've had are typical.
________________
Best Regards,
Al Fuller
On Mon, May 15, 2023, 8:43 AM Harold Manifold <manifold@telus.net> wrote:
> Another consideration for balancing the rear tires is the brake drums. I
> have the original BMC brake drums and was surprised at how out of balance
> they were. I static balanced the brake drums to go with the
> separately balanced wheels and tires. No vibrations, shimmies or skuttle
> shakes so far.
>
> Harold
>
> On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 12:34=E2=80=AFAM <greylinn@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>
>> Here in Brisbane there=E2=80=99s at least one place (near me) that does =
on-car
>> balancing. The wheels on my 100 don=E2=80=99t have a central hole, so ca=
n=E2=80=99t be
>> balanced on a regular machine. That said, the last set of Khumo Ecowing
>> ES31s I bought are fine with no balancing!
>>
>>
>>
>> Peter Linn
>>
>> Brisbane
>>
>> BN1 Holden V6
>>
>> MG TC special
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *m.g.shar=
p---
>> via Healeys
>> *Sent:* Monday, May 15, 2023 1:07 PM
>> *To:* 'Harold Manifold' <manifold@telus.net>; 'HealeyRick' <
>> healeyrik@gmail.com>
>> *Cc:* 'Healeys' <healeys@autox.team.net>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Wire Wheel Balancer
>>
>>
>>
>> I made up my own adaptor using a used hub and knock-off (spinner). I ha=
d
>> a machinist mount the hub on the lathe and ensure that it was true on th=
e
>> inside edges (where the bearings fit) and had him put a slight chamfer o=
n
>> the edges to provide better registration for the standard cones on a mod=
ern
>> balancer. Then we machined the centre out of the spinner so that when =
the
>> wheel is mounted on the hub and the spinner is tightened, the outer cone=
on
>> the balancer fits through it and registers on the hub. That part is a
>> little tricky as if you machine the hole too big, the spinner will end u=
p
>> in two pieces =E2=80=93 measure carefully! Hub and spinner was $25 at a=
swap meet
>> and machining was $50. I believe this adaptor will work on any post-war
>> wire wheels except the Jags, which had different hubs. Worked a treat o=
n
>> my TC wheels. Healey is running vibration-free- so leaving it alone for
>> now.
>>
>>
>>
>> I too liked on-wheel balancing and in my simple thinking it balanced the
>> drum or disk at the same time =E2=80=93 as long as you remembered to mar=
k the
>> position of the wheels when you took them off and did not rotate them (t=
o a
>> different position on the car)! That is likely one reason they are not
>> used anymore, because if your drums were out of balance and you added
>> weights to the wheel that balanced them out, then every time you removed
>> the wheel, you=E2=80=99d loose the balance, unless it went back in exact=
ly the same
>> position. Anyhow it=E2=80=99s a moot point as I have not seen an on-wh=
eel
>> balancer for decades. I imagine that disks run very true anyhow, but w=
hen
>> I balanced the drums on the TC they were significantly off. I hear
>> balancing Healey drums brings good results, but never felt the need as m=
y
>> BT7 has always run pretty smooth. If anyone in Ontario (Canada) wants
>> drums balanced, Garland and Sons in Scarborough did great work for me.
>>
>>
>>
>> Mirek
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Harold
>> Manifold
>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 11, 2023 11:35 AM
>> *To:* HealeyRick <healeyrik@gmail.com>
>> *Cc:* Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Wire Wheel Balancer
>>
>>
>>
>> It looks like the kit is designed to follow the Dunlop/MWS
>> recommendations for balancing. See attached. It should be a good piece o=
f
>> kit.
>>
>>
>>
>> Harold
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 8:28=E2=80=AFAM HealeyRick via Healeys <
>> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>> AH Spares just sent out this email about a wire wheel balancer kit to
>> mount the wheels on a modern balancing machine. What are your thoughts?
>> https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/big-healey/wheels/wire-wheel-ba=
lancing-kit.aspx?utm_medium=3Demail-1st&utm_source=3Dnewsletter&utm_medium=
=3Demail
>>
>>
>>
>> Rick Neville aka "HealeyRick"
>>
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<div dir=3D"auto">Absolutely. The brake drums are likely to be far more out=
of balance than the tires, if the drums on every Healey I've had are t=
ypical.<br><br><div data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature">________________<br>=
Best Regards,<br>Al Fuller</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, May 15, 2023, 8:43 AM Harold Manifo=
ld <<a href=3D"mailto:manifold@telus.net";>manifold@telus.net</a>> wro=
te:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;b=
order-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Another consid=
eration for balancing the rear tires is the brake drums. I have the origina=
l BMC brake drums and was surprised at how out of balance they were. I stat=
ic balanced the brake drums to go with the separately=C2=A0balanced wheels =
and tires. No vibrations, shimmies or skuttle shakes so far.<div><br></div>=
<div>Harold</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" clas=
s=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 12:34=E2=80=AFAM <<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:greylinn@ozemail.com.au" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">greylinn=
@ozemail.com.au</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);pad=
ding-left:1ex"><div><div lang=3D"EN-AU"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>H=
ere in Brisbane there=E2=80=99s at least one place (near me) that does on-c=
ar balancing. The wheels on my 100 don=E2=80=99t have a central hole, so ca=
n=E2=80=99t be balanced on a regular machine. That said, the last set of Kh=
umo Ecowing ES31s I bought are fine with no balancing!<u></u><u></u></span>=
</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span>Peter Linn<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><span>Brisbane<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>BN1 Ho=
lden V6<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>MG TC special<=
u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></=
span></p><div><div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-lef=
t:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0cm 0cm"><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"=
> Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_=
blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> <b>On Beha=
lf Of </b>m.g.sharp--- via Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 15, 2023 1:0=
7 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Harold Manifold' <<a href=3D"mailto:manifold=
@telus.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">manifold@telus.net</a>>=
; 'HealeyRick' <<a href=3D"mailto:healeyrik@gmail.com"; target=3D=
"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">healeyrik@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> '=
Healeys' <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank=
" rel=3D"noreferrer">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[Healeys] Wire Wheel Balancer<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D=
"EN-CA">I made up my own adaptor using a used hub and knock-off (spinner).=
=C2=A0 I had a machinist mount the hub on the lathe and ensure that it was =
true on the inside edges (where the bearings fit) and had him put a slight =
chamfer on the edges to provide better registration for the standard cones =
on a modern balancer.=C2=A0 Then we machined the centre out of the spinner =
so=C2=A0 that when the wheel is mounted on the hub and the spinner is tight=
ened, the outer cone on the balancer fits through it and registers on the h=
ub.=C2=A0 That part is a little tricky as if you machine the hole too big, =
the spinner will end up in two pieces =E2=80=93 measure carefully!=C2=A0 Hu=
b and spinner was $25 at a swap meet and machining was $50.=C2=A0 I believe=
this adaptor will work on any post-war wire wheels except the Jags, which =
had different hubs.=C2=A0 Worked a treat on my TC wheels.=C2=A0 Healey is r=
unning vibration-free- so leaving it alone for now.<u></u><u></u></span></p=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">I too liked on-wheel balancing=
and in my simple thinking it balanced the drum or disk at the same time =
=E2=80=93 as long as you remembered to mark the position of the wheels when=
you took them off and did not rotate them (to a different position on the =
car)!=C2=A0 That is likely one reason =C2=A0they are not used anymore, beca=
use if your drums were out of balance and you added weights to the wheel th=
at balanced them out, then every time you removed the wheel, you=E2=80=99d =
loose the balance, unless it went back in exactly the same position. =C2=A0=
=C2=A0Anyhow it=E2=80=99s a moot point as I have not seen an on-wheel balan=
cer for decades. =C2=A0=C2=A0I imagine that disks run very true anyhow, but=
when I balanced the drums on the TC=C2=A0 they were significantly off.=C2=
=A0 I hear balancing Healey drums brings good results, but never felt the n=
eed as my BT7 has always run pretty smooth.=C2=A0 If anyone in Ontario (Can=
ada) wants drums balanced, Garland and Sons in Scarborough did great work f=
or me.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">=
<u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">=
Mirek<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA"><=
u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom=
:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0c=
m 0cm"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span=
lang=3D"EN-US"> Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.n=
et" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>=
> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Harold Manifold<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 11, =
2023 11:35 AM<br><b>To:</b> HealeyRick <<a href=3D"mailto:healeyrik@gmai=
l.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">healeyrik@gmail.com</a>><br>=
<b>Cc:</b> Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"=
_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br><b>Subject:</b=
> Re: [Healeys] Wire Wheel Balancer<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">It looks like the kit is designed =
to follow=C2=A0the Dunlop/MWS recommendations for balancing. See attached. =
It should be a good piece of kit.<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">Harold<u></u><u></u></span></p><=
/div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u>=
</span></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">On Thu, Ma=
y 11, 2023 at 8:28=E2=80=AFAM HealeyRick via Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:=
healeys@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">healeys@autox.=
team.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><blockquote style=3D"=
border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid =
rgb(204,204,204);padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin:5pt 0cm 5pt 4.8pt"><div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">AH Spares just sent out this email=
about a wire wheel balancer kit to mount the wheels on a modern balancing =
machine.=C2=A0 What are your thoughts?=C2=A0=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://www.ah=
spares.co.uk/austin-healey/big-healey/wheels/wire-wheel-balancing-kit.aspx?=
utm_medium=3Demail-1st&utm_source=3Dnewsletter&utm_medium=3Demail" =
target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-heal=
ey/big-healey/wheels/wire-wheel-balancing-kit.aspx?utm_medium=3Demail-1st&a=
mp;utm_source=3Dnewsletter&utm_medium=3Demail</a><u></u><u></u></span><=
/p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></s=
pan></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">Rick Neville=
aka "HealeyRick"<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class=3D=
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