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As I mentioned this issue is not with my early BN1 ... another car
altogether.
However that said, in order to improve the cooling cooling in traffic with
my BN1, I have installed vertical panels, very like the division panel
used on later 100s, but at the ends of the apron panel. The improvement has
be remarkable and is something I would recommend for any 100 with
overheating issues.
M
On Wed., May 7, 2025, 9:20 a.m. Curtis Arndt, <cnaarndt@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hank and Jean
>
> Michael is a long time member of the AH Concours Guidelines Committee, an
> early 100 expert and as such is well aware of this fact. I judged his car
> Concours gold as I recall several years ago at the Gettysburg Conclave an=
d
> the vertical portion was not there as is correct for around the first 350
> BN1s. As such, there was no deduction for the missing panel.
>
> I have to assume that he now wants to add the panel to help improve
> cooling.
>
> As for his question, it can be done but will require drilling three 3/16"
> holes, two in the lower portion for 10-32 pan head phillips screws and on=
e
> in the top center portion of the upper support. Both the grill and radiat=
or
> may need to be removed. Pain in the butt if you ask me.
>
> If you want to improve cooling without permanently altering your very
> original car, I have several better options.
>
> Cheers
>
> Curtis Arndt
> AH Concours Guidelines Committee
>
> On Sun, May 4, 2025, 9:30=E2=80=AFPM Jean Caron <
> vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Michael,
>> I agree with Hank, your car did not come with this vertical panel but if
>> you have the grille removed you should be able to install one. You will
>> have to drill three holes, two in the horizontal panels and one in the
>> bonnet hinge and cross brace assembly for the machined screw that holds =
the
>> top of the vertical panel in place.
>>
>> Jean
>>
>> Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada=E2=80=99s largest network.
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Hank Leach
>> via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
>> *Sent:* Sunday, May 4, 2025 7:48:00 PM
>> *To:* Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>; healeys@autox.team.net <
>> healeys@autox.team.net>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Radiator apron
>>
>> Michael-the early cars did not always have the center baffle panel. The=
y
>> had the lower horizontal "apron" you describe but the vertical "modesty =
"
>> panel was added in late 53 into 54. Photo of my 53 #588 did not have the
>> vertical so you can see all the way thru the front. Since your car (#172=
?)
>> is early; my guess is that you never had the panel. Are there mounting
>> holes in the horizontal apron to receive the lip of the vertical piece? =
The
>> later parts available came with drilled holes. Not sure you could instal=
l
>> one unless you remove the grille. Hank
>> --------------------
>>
>> From: "Michael Salter" <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
>> To: <healeys@autox.team.net>
>> Sent: May 4, 2025 at 2:04 PM PDT
>> Subject: [Healeys] Radiator apron
>> I have a BN1 with the radiator apron panel (horizontal behind and below
>> the grille in front of the radiator which usually has a division panel
>> attached to it) missing.
>> If I remove the horns and grille does anyone if this panel and the
>> division panel can be installed. Looks a bit tight but I don't want to h=
ave
>> to disturb the front shroud.
>> Thanks.
>>
>> M
>>
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<div dir=3D"auto"><p dir=3D"ltr">As I mentioned this issue is not with my e=
arly BN1 ... another car altogether. <br>
However that said, in order to improve the cooling cooling in traffic with =
my BN1, I=C2=A0 have installed vertical panels, very like the division pane=
l used on later 100s, but at the ends of the apron panel. The improvement h=
as be remarkable and is something I would recommend for any 100 with overhe=
ating issues.</p><p dir=3D"ltr"><br></p><p dir=3D"ltr">M</p></div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed=
., May 7, 2025, 9:20 a.m. Curtis Arndt, <<a href=3D"mailto:cnaarndt@gmai=
l.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">cnaarndt@gmail.com</a>> wrot=
e:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bo=
rder-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><p dir=3D"ltr"=
>Hank and Jean</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Michael is a long time member of the AH Concours Guidelines =
Committee, an early 100 expert and as such is well aware of this fact. I ju=
dged his car Concours gold as I recall several years ago at the Gettysburg =
Conclave and the vertical portion was not there as is correct for around th=
e first 350 BN1s. As such, there was no deduction for the missing panel.</p=
>
<p dir=3D"ltr">I have to assume that he now wants to add the panel to help =
improve cooling.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">As for his question, it can be done but will require drillin=
g three 3/16" holes, two in the lower portion for 10-32 pan head phill=
ips screws and one in the top center portion of the upper support. Both the=
grill and radiator may need to be removed. Pain in the butt if you ask me.=
</p><p dir=3D"ltr">If you want to improve cooling without permanently alter=
ing your very original car, I have several better options.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Cheers</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Curtis Arndt <br>
AH Concours Guidelines Committee </p></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><=
div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, May 4, 2025, 9:30=E2=80=AFPM J=
ean Caron <<a href=3D"mailto:vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail.com"; r=
el=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">vintage_roadster_restoration=
@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-family:Aptos,Aptos_MSFontService,-apple-sys=
tem,Roboto,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">
Michael,</div>
<div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-family:Aptos,Aptos_MSFontService,-apple-sys=
tem,Roboto,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">
I agree with Hank, your car did not come with this vertical panel but if yo=
u have the grille removed you should be able to install one. You will have =
to drill three holes, two in=C2=A0 the horizontal panels and one in the bon=
net hinge and cross brace assembly for
the machined screw that holds the top of the vertical panel in place.</div=
>
<div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-family:Aptos,Aptos_MSFontService,-apple-sys=
tem,Roboto,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">
<br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-family:Aptos,Aptos_MSFontService,-apple-sys=
tem,Roboto,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">
Jean</div>
<div id=3D"m_-8770354037216367172m_5465405381357750021m_6245524722219332360=
ms-outlook-mobile-body-separator-line" dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div id=3D"m_-8770354037216367172m_5465405381357750021m_6245524722219332360=
ms-outlook-mobile-signature" dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-family:Aptos,Aptos_=
MSFontService,-apple-system,Roboto,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12p=
t">
Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada=E2=80=99s largest network.</di=
v>
<hr style=3D"display:inline-block;width:98%">
<div id=3D"m_-8770354037216367172m_5465405381357750021m_6245524722219332360=
divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" style=3D"font=
-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:he=
aleys-bounces@autox.team.net" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" targ=
et=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> on behalf of Hank Leac=
h via Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferr=
er noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><=
br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, May 4, 2025 7:48:00 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Michael Salter <<a href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com"; re=
l=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">michaelsalter@gmai=
l.com</a>>; <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer =
noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a> <<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer norefer=
rer" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Radiator apron</font>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>Michael-the early cars did not always have the center baffle panel.=C2=
=A0 They had the lower horizontal "apron" you describe but the ve=
rtical "modesty " panel was added in late 53 into 54. Photo of my=
53 #588 did not have the vertical so you can see all the
way thru the front. Since your car (#172?) is early; my guess is that you =
never had the panel.=C2=A0 Are there mounting holes in the horizontal apron=
to receive the lip of the vertical piece? The later parts available came w=
ith drilled holes. Not sure you could
install one unless you remove the grille.=C2=A0 Hank<br>
-------------------- <br>
<br>
From: "Michael Salter" <<a href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.=
com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">michaelsalt=
er@gmail.com</a>> <br>
To: <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer norefer=
rer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> <br>
Sent: May 4, 2025 at 2:04 PM PDT <br>
Subject: [Healeys] Radiator apron </div>
<div>I have a BN1 with the radiator apron panel (horizontal behind and belo=
w the grille in front of the radiator which usually has a division panel at=
tached to it) missing.
<div>If I remove the horns and grille does anyone if this panel and the div=
ision panel can be installed. Looks a bit tight but I don't want to hav=
e to disturb the front shroud.=C2=A0</div>
<div>Thanks.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>M</div>
</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
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