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Subject: 2002 rules/ Classics
From: Rick Hammond <r.hammond@sympatico.ca>
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 11:56:14 -0500
Dan Warner wrote:

> List,
>
> I had forgotten that the list will not accept attachments. Let's try this:
>
> 2002 Rules
>
> Suggested Changes
>
> The SCTA-BNI board of directors passed the following rules for inclusion
> into the 2002 version of the SCTA-BNI rulebook. This is the short version,
> to be used as information only.
>
>

Hi Dan,
First, this is in no way harping, I will, as everyone will, work with the rules
as set, and thanks again for all the work and headaches involved in all this.
(yourself and all the others)

Great to see the notation on the pre-'49s being allowed.   As you know, my
project is a '48 Pontiac with a '64 Buick 300 V8 and running gear.  Other than
Classic, that would be D/GAlt.  I realize it would be better in the vintage
class but perhaps foolishly I want it to be more of a daily driver, plus I have
the 300 Buick complete and running.

These are limits I'm putting on myself, accepting that compromises mean I sure
won't be shooting for records, but the great thing about the LSR competition is
the ability to take what you build and safely have fun seeing what it will do.
In doing that you can't expect to have classes tailor-made for you.

For me this will be a learning process.  A paralel would be racing vintage
bikes; where else would I get the opportunity to run a mildly tweaked bike (350
Aermacchi/Harley) on a track like Daytona?  There was other experience at
Mosport, Shannonville, Grattan etc. but the point is, of course I wasn't
shooting for a podium finish, but without megabuck efforts how else do you get
the chance to compete in places like Daytona, Bonneville...

In that learning process though, I will be looking ahead to what I might aim at
after gaining some experience.  The Classic category seems like a good entry
level class that many people may already have a reasonable platform for.  That's
why I wonder about the 'forever' rule.

By swapping engines etc. many of the cars in other classes bounce around, not
just season to season but meet to meet.  Why is the Classic category limited
this way?
"In order to prevent a vehicle from competing in both the Classic and Modified
categories, the following policy is established:

Once a vehicle in this category has competed in a SCTA/BNI sanctioned event, the
vehicle must forever remain in the category in which it first raced."

I can realize that you don't want cars bouncing back and forth, but why
'forever' rather than just 'within each competition year'?  If I buy a car from
somebody that was run in classic, then return it to vintage specs, is that any
different from building a vintage car from scratch?  It really shouldn't matter
if I bought it or altered my own car.  What is important should be the car that
is presented to tech the first time each season.

What it means for me, at least if I get it together for next year, is that I
will build the car, but probably start out in D/Galt to leave myself the future
options.  That way, if and when I want to get serious I will still be able to
come back some other year with a vintage motor and hope to be competitive.

just out of curiosity, what would actually constitute 'the same car' for the
purposes of the classics rule?
Again, I realize this is 'a done deal' as it has to be, and thanks again for all
the work.
Cheers,
Rick



>
>
> CLASSIC CATEGORY
>
>
>
> Classic Category
>
> This category encompasses American coupes and sedans produced prior to and
> including 1981,
>
> with a production rate of at least 500 vehicles of the same model for sale
> to the general public. The classes within this category are intended to
> provide a venue for coupes and sedans from the "Golden Era" of American
> automobile production. Vehicles will include post-vintage cars such as the
> 1949-50 Ford and Mercury through the popular Muscle Car years of Camaros,
> Mustangs and Chargers. Entries must be unaltered in height, width, and
> contour with all stock panels, i.e. hoods, fenders, doors, etc., mounted in
> their original relationship to each other. The vehicle must have been
> originally produced with suitable seating for four adults. For reasons of
> economy and historical authenticity, certain electronic engine technologies
> are not allowed.
>
> Vehicles within the year range of 1928 and 1948 using a non-vintage engine
> such as a Chevrolet or Ford OHV V8 may compete with the fenders removed. All
> safety requirements dependent on the existing class record must be met. In
> the case of no class record the next higher-class record will be used for
> safety requirements. Body and chassis modifications as allowed in the
> equivalent Modified category class may be used.
>
> Classes within the Classic Category are the equivalent of the Modified and
> Production categories with body modifications as allowed in those
> categories.
>
> The following items are allowed; capacitive discharge type ignition systems
> with rev limiter. Carburetors or mechanical fuel injection. One distributor
> or one magneto, one ignition system only. OEM EFI and sensor controlled
> ignitions are allowed but must be stock and not modified in any way for the
> year and model of the vehicle entered. Direct reading gauges, either
> electronic or mechanical.
>
> The following items are NOT allowed Electronic Fuel Injection, EFI. Sensor
> controlled engine management systems with feedback loop. Multiple magnetos
> or distributors. Computers, which effect engine operations as, described in
> sect. II-17. Data recorders that either print or download functions of the
> engine or vehicle performance.
>
> It is intended that the vehicles for which these classes have been created
> will compete in the Classic Category. The only exception is for vehicles
> with a non-O.E.M. electronic fuel injection system, EFI. Vehicles using a
> non-O.E.M. electronic fuel injection, EFI, may compete in the Modified
> Category classes with all other modifications allowed for the class entered.
>
> In order to prevent a vehicle from competing in both the Classic and
> Modified categories, the following policy is established:
>
> Once a vehicle in this category has competed in a SCTA/BNI sanctioned event,
> the vehicle must forever remain in the category in which it first raced.
>
> Body classes: /CBFAlt, /CFAlt, /CBGAlt, /CGAlt, /CBGC, /CGC - Engine
> classes: A, B, C, D, E
>
> Body class: /CProd - Engine classes: AA, A, B, C, D, E
>
> Body class: /CPS - Engine classes: C, D, E
>
> The rules for this new category are being tested for one (1) year. Vehicles
> may compete for records, individual and club points, but CANNOT compete for
> the Dry Lakes Season Championship in the competition year 2002.

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