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Re: [Land-speed] YAW Control

To: <neil@dbelltech.com>, <drmayf@mayfco.com>, "'LSR'"
Subject: Re: [Land-speed] YAW Control
From: "joseph lance" <jolylance@earthlink.net>
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 20:39:07 -0500
Just wondering---some tall skyscrapers have spring dampened sliding weights 
on the top floor to null out swaying motion caused by wind forces. A form of 
yaw control.

Could an added weight in the rear used for traction enhancement be similarly 
used for yaw control if it was allowed to oscillate side-to-side 
(constrained by springs) at a certain frequency ?

A "damper" of this type would not require any power input. Design weight and 
springs for a resonant frequency related to yaw rate?

Lance



----- Original Message ----- 
From: <neil@dbelltech.com>
To: <drmayf@mayfco.com>; "'LSR'" <land-speed@autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Land-speed] YAW Control


>I always wondered what to do with that little rate gyro that's been sitting
> on my shelf for a long time, Mayf. :)
>
> Regards, Neil   Tucson, AZ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: land-speed-bounces@autox.team.net
> [mailto:land-speed-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of drmayf
> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 5:30 PM
> To: LSR
> Subject: [Land-speed] YAW Control
>
> I have been messing around building a math model of a 4 wheeled vehicle
> that I might be able touse in determining the onset of a spin or slde.
> Rather than use seat of the pants to feel the onset, I think a yaw rate
> detector would be the sensor of choice.  I think that the sensor could
> be coupled to an active yaw contol system so that the vehicle never gets
> fully involved with a spin.  I think also that mweight added to the rear
> of a vehicle for traction purposes might be used as the reaction mass in
> a control system.  Control could be through a fast acting fluid system
> ala hydraulic or pneumaic cylinder, a solenoid like device or
> magnetics.  If magnetics are used then the power requirements could be
> reduced to virtually zero.
>
> But, I gotta ask...is yaw control legal, lol...  I know we spent a
> million words on traction control and that is simpler to implement.
>
>
> just stuff for thought....
>
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