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Re: rec.autos.makers.mg, etc

To: "Randell Jesup" <jesup@mailhost.scala.com>
Subject: Re: rec.autos.makers.mg, etc
From: car@texas.net (Carol )
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 16:25:22 -0500 (CDT)
Sounds helpful to me! (That's a "yes" vote.)

I have found the other lists to be very active and informative to date, as
well. My sister has a '60 MGA Roadster, and I help her with it.

Carol 




At 07:33 PM 9/16/96 EDT, Randell Jesup wrote:
>       I posted to news.groups after these were proposed, commenting on the
>apparent cluelessness of the proposer.  No response.  He apparently doesn't
>know about any of the mailing lists or web-sites.  His RFD proposals are all
>identical except for a word or two.  His RFD's were immediately followed
>by multiple "this is a good idea" messages - from his brother.  Also note
>that he didn't post it to any of the appropriate mailing lists.  I'd guess
>this person is pretty new to the 'net.
>
>       Perhaps newsgroups are a good idea (though the idea has been vetoed
>multiple times here, starting 10(!) years ago), but even if so this is not the
>right proposal, IMHO.  While I have been mildly in favor of a newsgroup in
>the past, I recommend voting against these proposals (mg,triumph and jaguar -
>note that there's no other-british-cars group proposed).
>
>       Randell Jesup
>p.s. I'm not including the voting form because the voting regulations
>explicitly disallow redistribution by people other than the vote-taker and
>(if authorized) the proponent.  Read news.announce.newgroups and vote on
>the proposals from there.  I'll cc the vote-taker and ask him to post the
>proposal to the brit-car, triumph, mg, and jaguar mailing lists.
>
>From: votetaker@netagw.com (Bill Aten)
>Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.autos.misc
>Subject: CFV: rec.autos.makers.mg
>Date: 13 Sep 1996 17:50:47 -0000
>Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
>Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net
>Approved: newgroups-request@uunet.uu.net
>Reply-To: mg-vote@netagw.com
>
>                     FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
>                unmoderated group rec.autos.makers.mg
>
>Newsgroups line:
>rec.autos.makers.mg    For fans of MG cars.
>
>Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 4 Oct 1996.
>
>This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions about
>the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.
>
>Proponent: Garry Spencer <gspencer@stim.tec.tn.us>
>Votetaker: Bill Aten <bill@netagw.com>
>
>RATIONALE: rec.autos.makers.mg
>
>There are many MG car clubs worldwide.  These MG enthusiasts/buffs
>derive great pleasure from driving, polishing, restoring, or just
>talking about their MG cars.  Each year thousands gather for
>MG/British car shows.  Some shows are general in scope and allow any
>and all British automobiles (and motorcycles) to be displayed, while
>others cater to a particular automaker's line (e.g. MG).  There are
>print magazines that showcase certain makes (e.g. "MG
>Enthusiast"). There are also web sites such as (www.mgcars.org.uk)
>that allow the MG/Brit-Car buff to keep up to date with their favorite
>automaker's progress.  There are, however, NO newsgroups that allow
>these MG car enthusiasts to freely communicate PERSON-to-PERSON. The
>newsgroup listed above would allow these people to share advice on
>restoration of older models (a very popular hobby), or to talk about
>new models/features, or to inform others of upcoming car shows etc.  I
>have found that MG car buffs are a very friendly and helpful group of
>people, who are willing to "get their hands dirty" to assist a fellow
>MG-Car buff with any problems. I know that the (MG) group would be an
>EXTREMELY active newsgroup.  I am pleading my case in the hopes that
>this proposed newsgroup will be approved.
>
>CHARTER: rec.autos.makers.mg
>
>The aforementioned newsgroup will be a forum for discussing:
>    - Proper care and upkeep of the specific makes.
>    - Restoration advice for older models.
>    - Impending car shows.
>    - The joys of owning and driving an MG.
>    - Other related topics .....
>
>END CHARTER.
>-- 
>Randell Jesup, Scala US R&D, Ex-Commodore-Amiga Engineer class of '94
>Randell.Jesup@scala.com
>#include <std/disclaimer>
>Exon food: <offensive words no longer censored - thank you ACLU, EFF, etc>
>
>
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