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re: frame pads and shop prices

To: <SRegel@dpra.com> (Scott Regel)
Subject: re: frame pads and shop prices
From: spontius@att.net
Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 14:46:02 +0000
About rubber suspension components:
It seems to me that the quality of rubber used in 
suspension parts currently available may not be as good 
as OEM.  I rebuilt the entire suspension of my '78 B 
using a combination of rubber bushings and pads from 
TRF, VB, and Moss.  A year later while I was still 
working on the car, the pads/bushings had pretty much 
all crumbled, and the car had not even been on the road 
yet.
I replaced all of the rubber parts with Prothane 
urethane.  It is not much harder than the rubber, the 
ride is not harsh, the chassis feels firm and 
responsive, and I expect the urethane to last much 
longer than rubber.
Something to think about if you only want to replace 
those pads once.

Scott Pontius
'78 MGB V8
San Diego
> Thanks for the info Mark.  You've talked me into doing it.  Motorhead here in 
> Northern Virginia wants $225 to do them.  His prices are outragious!  I'm 
> trying to get the car to pass Maryland inspection and had to replace the 
> steering rack.  I bought the rack and decided to have a shop do it just to 
> save me the frustration of trying to makeshift something to aline the 
> steering shafts and re-mounting the rack just to get the right amount of 
> shims in there.  He still wants to charge me $260 when other shops up here 
> charge $130 if you have the part.  I was missing those #$## clips on the rear 
> wheel cyclinders and asked him how much he wanted just to put the two clips 
> on...$35!  The only reason I went to him is because they were nice enough to 
> do a free tech session for our local MG club and I wasn't aware of any good 
> shops in the area.  They also seem to have one of the best reputations for 
> quality repairs.  Sorry for venting!  
> 
> Does anyone else find these prices a bit high?  But thanks for the details 
> for replacing the pads.  That's what I love about this list...you learn alot 
> and keep from going to the poor house.  And it's fun!
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Scott
> 76 B
> ---------- Original Text ----------
> 
> From: <IfixMGs@aol.com>, on 5/10/2000 8:53 AM:
> 
> Has anyone heard of a sub frame pad for the front suspension of a 76 B?  My 
> local shop says I need to replace them because the front end is starting to 
> move?  I've never heard of this before.  They also ran a compression test on 
> the old engine....150, 80, 110, 130.  Will I need a rebuild real soon?  What 
> would cause No. 2 to be at 80?  Bearing, ring?  It doesn't blow smoke or 
> consume and oil.  Seems to run okay too.  Hopefully it can hold off until 
> later this year.  I'll double check it when I get it home.
>  SCOTT:
>         I just finished a 2 week refurb of a 77 which hit a pothole so large 
> that the car came to a dead halt inside the hole from 35 mph. The owner 
> continued to drive it without an inspection for nearly a year!
>         All 4 of the subframe bolts were loosend, and the  pads between the 
> crossmember  and the body simply vanished thru the pulverization process..... 
>  The crossmember pivoted like the front end of a radioflyer wagon, and 
> whenever the brakes were applied with the wheels turned, the car went out of 
> control, but he pressed on, including several 500 mile round trips to the 
> mountains!   He had it checked out once at a garage, but they jacked the car 
> from the crossmember, forcing it tight against the frame rails, and 
> pronounced everything hunky dory, saying that little cars never handle 
> well(????)  This car needed new springs, kingpins, shocks, bushings and A 
> arms to the tune of $600, but replacing the pads shouldn't run more than $140 
> (2 hrs labor and parts) by someone not well versed in MGBs, and less if the 
> guy really knows his stuff (and all goes well.....) I charge $100 plus pads, 
> as a  flat rate. 
>      Over the years, I've found many Bs with loose/missing and worn  pads.
>        The job is actually quite easy, and can be done with a floor jack, 
> some jackstands and a 1/2" drive ratchet, 3/4 amd 5/8 sockets. short 
> extension and breaker bar, and a 3/8 drive 9/16 socket and 9/16 wrench. With 
> the car on jackstands (tires about 3" off ground, center the floor jack on 
> the crossmember.  Remove the 4 steering rack bolts, and the 5/8" bolts that 
> hold the steering knuckles to the king pin swivels. Remove the 4 locknuts 
> from the top of the frame rails and lower the front crossmember just enough 
> to r&r the pads.  I always stuff a piece of foam in the hole accessing the  
> two forwardmost bolts to keep them from falling inside the crossmember and 
> wasting time retreiving them. Replace all 8 pads  (I use trimmed down spring 
> pads when out of stock.....) and torque the daylights out of the nuts (really 
> torque them to the book-spec...) and refit the steering rack. Last one I did 
> took 45 minutes start to finish using an impact gun and air ratchet. 
>      Your compression numbers sound like valves are in need of a regrind.....
>               Mark Childers    Union Jack Spares  VA Beach VA 
> 
> 
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