Oddly enough I was looking in my trunk the other day and saw the little
a tube connector and wondered what it was for. I guess I know now.
As far as pulling all the emissions stuff off, it can be done without
too much work. I have never even seen a complete system like the one
you are talking about.
On Sun, 23 Jul 2000 00:41:49 -0400 (EDT), Geoffrey Gallaway wrote:
>Ok, so I realize what I am about to suggest is "illegal" and that I could
>go to prison for the rest of my life for altering the emissions system...
>
>If I just de-attach both hoses from the Odd Thing in the back of the car,
>connect them with a small section of pipe (obviously bypassing the Odd
>Thing), will I be allright in that department?
>
>AFAIK, the fuel cap is venting but hey, I'll replace is with a new venting
>one just for the fun of it. The spring on the clutch peddal popped off
>tonight and although I can't feel much of a difference, it wouldnt hurt.
>
>The car never fails to start (sometimes it can take quite a bit of
>cranking, 10 or 20 seconds) but it does get worse after I have been
>driving it and when its hot out...
>
>How do I remove the other emissions systems on the car? :)
>
>Geoff
>
>This one time, at band camp, Garner, Joseph P. wrote:
>
>> Hi Geoff,
>>
>> Aha! One I actually know the answer to!
>>
>> Let me guess. The car won't start after you have been driving it. The
>> problem is a lot worse in hot weather, or if the car is left in the sun?
>>
>> It's that bloody silly smog system again. Unburnt petrol vapour is adsorbed
>> in the mysterious absorbtion canister thingy (or pair, depending on model),
>> and supposedly returned to the carb to be burnt, or back to the fuel tank
>> via the strange little tank on the inside right of the boot.
>>
>> If you have any kind of blockage/impediment in the fuel return line, then
>> the car vapour-locks, and won't start. These blockages can be of many kinds,
>> including
>>
>> -a blocked/broken vent cap on the tank (you do have a venting cap on the
>> tank, rather than a non-venting DPO replacement?).
>>
>> -crud in the vapour line between the fuel tank, and the funny tank in the
>> boot, or crud in the little tank (sorry no manual, can't remember the proper
>> terms), or crud in the line between tank and resorbtion canister.
>>
>> -rotted out hoses (petrol vapour does bad things to rubber over the years)
>> that have either collapsed on the inside or kinked. This was my problem.
>> 10cents for a new bit of hose, and i NEVER had the car fail to start again
>> (well from this problem anyway). There is hose in the boot, and hose running
>> from the absorbtion canister to the vapour line itself. The latter has to
>> make a sharp short turn, so i'd check that first.
>>
>> IMHO, YMMV, etc, my advice would be to first check for kinked/rotted hoses
>> in this system. replace as necessary. check the vent cap. If these aren't
>> your primary problem, at least you have cleared up any secondary confusing
>> problems. Next time the car fails to start, take the petrol cap of the fuel
>> tank, if you get a big hiss of pressure this is probably the problem...
>> replace the cap and try again. if it starts now, then you know that your
>> problem is probably the cap. There are lots of places along the system where
>> you can unhook a hose, allow any built-up pressure to escape, reattach the
>> hose, (ALLOWING ANY PETROL VAPOUR TO DISAPPATE FIRST OF COURSE), and try
>> starting the car. this should allow you to physically locate the section of
>> the system which is blocked. If it appears to be a section of vapour return
>> line, then disattach the line at BOTH ends and blow it through with
>> compressed air. Take great care not to blow compressed air through any line
>> attached to the fuel pump or the fuel pump will die.
>>
>> I hope that helps... as with any work on the fuel system be extremely
>> careful with petrol vapour and sparks etc.
>>
>> incidentally what are the symptoms of buggered adsorbtion pads... Max,
>> Laurie, Ed? No obvious jokes please.... that's my department!
>>
>> ;-)
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> Dr. Joe
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Geoffrey Gallaway
>> To: mgs@autox.team.net
>> Sent: 7/22/00 11:25 AM
>> Subject: Gurgling Sound coming from back of car
>>
>> Some people may know of my fuel starvation problems with my 70 BGT.
>> While
>> sitting in a parking lot, waiting for someone today, it died as usual. I
>> didn't attempt to turn it back on since I didn't know how long it would
>> be
>> till the person arrived. About a minute after it had died, I heard a
>> gurgling sound come from the back right of the car for a few seconds.
>> Once
>> the person arrived and I started to drive, the fuel starvation problem
>> was
>> absolutely horrible, dying at almost every light and taking a few
>> seconds
>> to start again. Now, I know there is a large metal cannister in the
>> right
>> back of the car (where the gurgling sound came from). What does this
>> cannister do and what might it have to do with my car dying and why
>> would
>> it make a gurgling sound? If it is the cause of the problem, can I
>> remove
>> it, fix it or do I need a new one?
>>
>> Thanks for the advice,
>> Geoff
>>
>>
>
>--
>Geoffrey Gallaway || Violence is only for those who have run out of good
>geoffeg@sloth.org || ideas.
>D e v o r z h u n || -- Doug
>
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