On Wed, 14 Aug 2002, David Breneman wrote:
> I think this is a case where you really need an attorney
> who knows the laws in your state. I'm just astonished
> that Ohio requires a Social Security number to register a car!
> There's *supposed* to be a federal law that Social Security
> numbers are only for payroll-related issues. You don't
I misspoke, it was actually the BMV wouldn't issue me temp tags without
proof of SSN. I couldn't register the car at the time because I bought it in
the next county over and needed to do the registration swap in my own
county. So I planned to just get temp tags and drive it home.
The funny thing is, just a few weeks before this I had gotten a new Drivers
License, as my old one was about to expire. The woman said "Do you wan't
your SSN on the new license?". I thought about it and said "No, not if it
isn't required."
Fast forward to the day I bought the MG, a different branch of the same
government entity refused to give me temp tags because I couldn't prove SSN.
She needed a Social Security card. Wouldn't take my insurance card which has
my ssn as my id number, was fully aware that every Social Security Card says
that it's not to be used for identification, and when I told her it was
against federal law to require it for anything but social security and
payroll, stared at me blankly as if to say "I really could care less."
> I'd think that playing fast and loose with swapping
> serial numbers between cars would be your last option,
> although after reading this list for the couple months
> I've been here, there doesn't seem to be any end to
> things people here swap on their cars! :-)
This is an option I'm exploring and have already located a year appropriate
clear title and full set of vin tags. I'm aware it's illegal, but I don't
see the difference between this and buying a heritage shell and putting it
on there.
> Good luck! I had a problem with my MGA that the "VIN"
> on the title was the engine serial number, and the
> engine had been swapped out by the PO, and I'd stored
> the car for 10 years (also due to financial considerations)
> and lost the paper title. It took 5 months to do a title
> search by the DMV, and if the clerk hadn't let me read
> her notes, I never would have gotten it. She had actually
> written down the proper number months earlier, but
> dismissed it as a bad record because it didn't match
> the *real* serial number I gave her *with the caveat
> that they wouldn't find that number in their records*!
> Anyway, it's finally licensed as a collector's car with
> original unissued 1958 plates and I never need to buy
> license tabs again!
I've gotten alot of suggestions by email about abandoned and/or salvaged
titles. I did some rudimentary digging into this matter some time back and
it looks like I'd need documentation, bills of sale, etc, which may require
the owner-of-record's name, which of course, I don't have.
I've also had suggested to me that I sell it to someone in a title-free
state and have them sell it back to me. Which I may explore, because I think
Indiana, right next door, is title free for 1973.
Thanks to everyone for their suggestions. She'll ride again.
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