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Re: [Mgs] Brake frustrations

To: "Keith G." <kger.mg@gmail.com>, <Mgs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Mgs] Brake frustrations
From: "Councill, David" <dcouncill@msubillings.edu>
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 11:02:57 -0600
I had a hell of a time getting the rear brakes to bleed on my 72B. It
turned out I had a small pinhole on the metal tube that runs over the
rear axle. It didn't leak (just a seep around the hole) but it pulled in
air.

What I ended up doing was backtracking the lines to see where there was
brake fluid. There are a lot of areas where you could have a plug or a
leak (fluid and/or air). On my 72B, there is a place in the rear of the
car where the metal tube from the master cylinder ends in a rubber tube
which joins that tube to the tubes that feed both rear lines. I took
that apart to see if brake fluid came out there and then worked my way
back. I hope that makes sense. You could have a collapsed brake line or
a plug. Maybe even a problem still with the master cylinder. Or the
wheel cylinders have a leak pulling air into the system.

You just need to check the system/lines at certain points to see where
the fluid flows and where it does not.

I also now use an Eezi-Bleed system so I don't have to rely on a helper.


David Councill
67 BGT
72 B
73 B

-----Original Message-----
From: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Keith G.
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 10:50 AM
To: Mgs@autox.team.net
Subject: [Mgs] Brake frustrations

So my '79 B is sitting up on jackstands while a summer marches on.  I'm
frustrated with the brakes, being unable to get fluid to the rear bleed
valves.

The background is this:  I finally got around to replacing the rear
brake
cylinders, as one was leaking.  After getting that done, I was able to
bleed
the brakes to get good pressure in the pedal and good, clear fluid
coming
out of each valve.  Feeling good about that, I moved on to other matters
that needed tending to.

The next time I tried he brake pedal, it went to the floor.  Any
subsequent
bleed attempts have failed.  I can get great pressure to the fronts, but
nothing good is happening at the rear.  A replacement master cylinder
helped
only the depletion of my dollars.  Someone I talked to suggested I just
remove the valves and let gravity do its thing to see if any fluid leaks
out.  Well, not in this case.

Any ideas would be much appreciated.  I want to get this thing back on
the
road this summer if possible.  Our summers here in the upper American
midwest are entirely too short.
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