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Re: [Mgs] Follow up to MGA 1600 MkII front end suspension suspense

To: <crk@godblessthe.us>, <mgs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Mgs] Follow up to MGA 1600 MkII front end suspension suspense
From: PaulHunt73 via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net>
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 09:35:05 +0100
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Are you and Barney singing off the same hymn-sheet?  What Barney =
describes sounds the same to me as the MGB - that is the inner races are =
held tightly between a the oil seal collar on the inner part of the stub =
axle and the clamping nut and washer, with spacer and shims between =
them.  Clamped like that - to between 40 and 70 ft lb on the MGB at =
least - the inners can't spin on the axle.  But I thought it had already =
been established that your version of the MGA isn't like that anyway.

If the oil seal collar is missing, i.e. the part that the oil seal lip =
runs on, then with the MGB system (again at least) you will never get =
correct assembly of hub, bearings and axle as that takes up 1/4" or more =
of the effective length of the stub axle and hence play in the assembly.

I also suggested that if the problem was only on one side, then =
carefully dismantle the other and compare components and dimensions.

PaulH.
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  ... I don't really understand why the inner races can be so relatively =
loose. Because of the relative damage to the spindle, a noticeable wear =
on one side of the spindle especially on the outer bearings,  I would =
think that a slip fit inner race, even with axial compression, would =
allow potential spinning on the spindle causing wear similar to what I =
am seeing.
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Are you and Barney singing off the same =
hymn-sheet?&nbsp; What=20
Barney describes sounds the same to me as the MGB - that is the inner =
races are=20
held tightly between a the oil seal collar on the inner part of the stub =
axle=20
and the clamping nut and washer, with spacer and shims between =
them.&nbsp;=20
Clamped like that - to between 40 and 70 ft lb on the MGB at least - the =
inners=20
can't spin on the axle.&nbsp; But I thought it had already =
been&nbsp;established=20
that your version of the MGA isn't like that anyway.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>If the oil seal collar is missing, i.e. the part =
that the oil=20
seal lip runs on, then with the MGB system (again at least) you will =
never get=20
correct assembly of hub, bearings and axle as that takes up 1/4" or more =
of the=20
effective length of the stub axle and hence play in the =
assembly.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I also suggested that if the problem was only on one =
side,=20
then carefully dismantle the other and compare components and=20
dimensions.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>PaulH.</FONT></DIV>
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black">... I=20
  don=92t really understand why the inner races can be so relatively =
loose.=20
  Because of the relative damage to the spindle, a noticeable wear on =
one side=20
  of the spindle especially on the outer bearings,&nbsp; I would think =
that a=20
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  spinning on the spindle causing wear similar to what I am=20
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