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Subject: Re: [Mgs] recent spam
From: David Councill via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net>
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 14:25:42 -0700
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I haven=E2=80=99t seen any spam as described. But since I was a former =
system/email administrator, perhaps I can shed a bit of light on this. =
Email addresses can be harvested through address books or even off the =
Internet. Programs can scan websites to pick up anything matching an =
email address format. The past several years, one of the commonest =
methods was/is to collect some email addresses and then email those =
users and ask for their account login information. It will be under the =
pretense of a security change or email quota exceeded or some other =
misleading excuse =E2=80=93 and it works as people frequently respond =
with their username and password. Then with that information, the hacker =
can login to that email account and harvest more email addresses plus =
they can use that account and that account=E2=80=99s mail server to send =
out more emails asking for email account logins or to sell something or =
to send out malware.

=20

Until I took a new job and moved a couple of years ago, I had the same =
email address for about 20 years. I was also very active on the =
Internet. So I would get a lot of spam. And spammers would often use my =
email address (but not my account) when sending spam so I would often =
get non-delivery notices as a result. So when other people brought =
similar problems to me under my role as the university email =
administrator, I would tell them to do a google search on their email =
address to show them how spammers can easily find and harvest their =
email addresses. And if you do that, you will see that this mailing list =
has a public exposed archive, available right on the Internet. So it is =
possible that your email address could have come from the autox.team.net =
server. Some spammers will go so far as to subscribe to email lists so =
they can not only send a spam message to all the subscribers but they =
may also have access to a list of all the subscribers, thus having a =
clean email list to spam to. But the easy way is just to use a program =
that runs scans across the web with minimal human intervention needed.

=20

Spam filters may also be an issue. In reality, I believe that currently =
90% of all email is spam but the figure might be a bit out of date. Most =
of this is easily blocked due to blacklists maintained on the Internet =
that track the IP addresses of sites or computers sending out large =
amounts of spam =E2=80=93 you usually will only see spam from sites not =
yet blacklisted or spam that has been crafted to avoid blacklists and/or =
other spam filters. It may be that you need to turn on the spam filters =
as some email providers have this configurable to some extent. I =
currently run my own mail server and am not very active posting on the =
Internet =E2=80=93 and my only filtering right now is using a couple =
email blacklists. Before I configured the filters, I was getting maybe =
10 spams a day, now the spam is fairly rare =E2=80=93 maybe a couple a =
week.

=20

David Councill

64 MGB =E2=80=93 and driving it today

67 MGBGT=20

72 MGB

=20

=20

From: Mgs [mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of S. Carr via =
Mgs
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 11:46 AM
To: MG List
Subject: [Mgs] recent spam

=20

Has anyone else on the MG list recently been plagued by spam--much =
originating from overseas--about (fake) invoices attached as zip files, =
and other such garbage?  As I=E2=80=99ve been getting this stuff on the =
2 email addresses I use for lists (one MGs, one Healeys) I suspect that =
someone on the list has had their computer hacked and their address book =
copied.  (Needless to say, it=E2=80=99s all immediately deleted without =
being opened.)

=20

Sarah Carr

MGB/GT in PA


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D'>I haven=E2=80=99t seen any spam as described. But since I was a =
former system/email administrator, perhaps I can shed a bit of light on =
this. Email addresses can be harvested through address books or even off =
the Internet. Programs can scan websites to pick up anything matching an =
email address format. The past several years, one of the commonest =
methods was/is to collect some email addresses and then email those =
users and ask for their account login information. It will be under the =
pretense of a security change or email quota exceeded or some other =
misleading excuse =E2=80=93 and it works as people frequently respond =
with their username and password. Then with that information, the hacker =
can login to that email account and harvest more email addresses plus =
they can use that account and that account=E2=80=99s mail server to send =
out more emails asking for email account logins or to sell something or =
to send out malware.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Until I took a new job and moved a couple of years ago, I had the =
same email address for about 20 years. I was also very active on the =
Internet. So I would get a lot of spam. And spammers would often use my =
email address (but not my account) when sending spam so I would often =
get non-delivery notices as a result. So when other people brought =
similar problems to me under my role as the university email =
administrator, I would tell them to do a google search on their email =
address to show them how spammers can easily find and harvest their =
email addresses. And if you do that, you will see that this mailing list =
has a public exposed archive, available right on the Internet. So it is =
possible that your email address could have come from the autox.team.net =
server. Some spammers will go so far as to subscribe to email lists so =
they can not only send a spam message to all the subscribers but they =
may also have access to a list of all the subscribers, thus having a =
clean email list to spam to. But the easy way is just to use a program =
that runs scans across the web with minimal human intervention =
needed.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Spam filters may also be an issue. In reality, I believe that =
currently 90% of all email is spam but the figure might be a bit out of =
date. Most of this is easily blocked due to blacklists maintained on the =
Internet that track the IP addresses of sites or computers sending out =
large amounts of spam =E2=80=93 you usually will only see spam from =
sites not yet blacklisted or spam that has been crafted to avoid =
blacklists and/or other spam filters. It may be that you need to turn on =
the spam filters as some email providers have this configurable to some =
extent. I currently run my own mail server and am not very active =
posting on the Internet =E2=80=93 and my only filtering right now is =
using a couple email blacklists. Before I configured the filters, I was =
getting maybe 10 spams a day, now the spam is fairly rare =E2=80=93 =
maybe a couple a week.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>David Councill<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>64 MGB =E2=80=93 and driving it today<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>67 MGBGT <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>72 MGB<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
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0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Mgs [mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>S. Carr via =
Mgs<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 14, 2016 11:46 AM<br><b>To:</b> MG =
List<br><b>Subject:</b> [Mgs] recent =
spam<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Has anyone else =
on the MG list recently been plagued by spam--much originating from =
overseas--about (fake) invoices attached as zip files, and other such =
garbage?&nbsp; As I=E2=80=99ve been getting this stuff on the 2 email =
addresses I use for lists (one MGs, one Healeys) I suspect that someone =
on the list has had their computer hacked and their address book =
copied.&nbsp; (Needless to say, it=E2=80=99s all immediately deleted =
without being opened.)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p=
></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Sarah =
Carr<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>MGB/GT in =
PA<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></body></html>
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