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Failing float bowl valve.
On Sun, Apr 28, 2019, 5:29 PM rcharmoz axxessgroup.com
rcharmoz@axxessgroup.com [tr3a] <tr3a@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>
> Hi Gang,
>
> I realize that this forum is geared to restorers, but there is so much
> knowledge to be shared, I thought I'd tap into it.
>
> Rewind to a couple of weeks ago when I rebuilt the carbs with all new tin=
y
> little parts.
>
> Everything went smoothly and the car ran great until today when I noticed
> a strong smell of gasoline while driving.
>
>
>
> I got home and checked to find out that the front float chamber was
> spewing (big time) gasoline from its overflow tube.
>
> I took it apart, checked it out and put it back together. Same problem.
>
> I took out the jet assembly, checked it out and put it back together. Sam=
e
> problem.
>
>
>
> Now, the only things that are different are the part substitutions
> recommended by Moss.
>
> On the float chamber it is the lower mounting bolt assembly.
>
> On the jet assembly, it is the rubber 'O' rings that substitute for the
> tiny cork washers. I've kept the large one.
>
>
>
> It acts as though the fuel flow to the carb is obstructed somewhere. The
> front float chamber fills up and the gasoline just *pours* out of the
> secondary tube.
>
>
>
> Since the car starts and drives (sputtering a bit until it gets up to
> speed) while all this is happening, I assume fuel is getting to at least
> the rear carb, and likely the front carb as well.
>
>
>
> Wassup??????? I almost bought the farm on this one=E2=80=A6
>
>
>
> Remy
>
>
>
> *From:* tr3a@yahoogroups.com [mailto:tr3a@yahoogroups.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2019 12:00 PM
> *To:* Bob Howard <mgbobh@gmail.com>
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> *Subject:* [tr3a] Re: [Mgs] Bleeding brakes question...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Mine does indicate such a fault, as it leaks right through the $55
>
> > plastic switch, the inside fender paint showing that.
>
>
>
> Mine too, Bob! Exactly the same.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019, 8:33 AM Robert's New iPad <mgbobh@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The MGB workshop manual says to do longest first. MGBs initially had a
> single circuit, then two, and a shuttle-device that would indicate if one
> system were leaking.
> I suppose, and this is just supposition, that the longer lines have th=
e
> possibility of more air therein, the shorter ones to front disc brakes mo=
ve
> more fluid, so our bleeding longest first would be least likely to cause
> that valve to indicate a leak fault.
> Mine does indicate such a fault, as it leaks right through the $55
> plastic switch, the inside fender paint showing that.
>
> > On Apr 26, 2019, at 9:18 AM, Richard Lindsay via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.ne=
t>
> wrote:
> >
> > On vehicles with independent front and rear brake hydraulic
> circuits, is it still advisable to bleed the longest pipe run first? That
> is, does it matter if one bleeds the front brakes first?
> >
> > Rick
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<div dir=3D"auto">Failing float bowl valve.</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Apr 28, 2019, 5:29 PM rc=
harmoz <a href=3D"http://axxessgroup.com";>axxessgroup.com</a> <a href=3D"ma=
ilto:rcharmoz@axxessgroup.com">rcharmoz@axxessgroup.com</a> [tr3a] <<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:tr3a@yahoogroups.com";>tr3a@yahoogroups.com</a>> wrote:<br>=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Hi Gang,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I realize that this forum is geared t=
o restorers, but there is so much knowledge to be shared, I thought I'd=
tap into it.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Rewind to a couple of weeks ago when =
I rebuilt the carbs with all new tiny little parts.
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Everything went smoothly and the car =
ran great until today when I noticed a strong smell of gasoline while drivi=
ng.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I got home and checked to find out th=
at the front float chamber was spewing (big time) gasoline from its overflo=
w tube.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I took it apart, checked it out and p=
ut it back together. Same problem.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I took out the jet assembly, checked =
it out and put it back together. Same problem.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Now, the only things that are differe=
nt are the part substitutions recommended by Moss.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">On the float chamber it is the lower =
mounting bolt assembly.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">On the jet assembly, it is the rubber=
'O' rings that substitute for the tiny cork washers. I've kept=
the large one.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">It acts as though the fuel flow to th=
e carb is obstructed somewhere. The front float chamber fills up and the ga=
soline just
<u>pours</u> out of the secondary tube.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Since the car starts and drives (sput=
tering a bit until it gets up to speed) while all this is happening, I assu=
me fuel is getting to at least the rear carb,
and likely the front carb as well.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Wassup??????? I almost bought the far=
m on this one=E2=80=A6<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Remy<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 26, 2019 12:00 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Bob Howard <<a href=3D"mailto:mgbobh@gmail.com"; target=3D"_bl=
ank" rel=3D"noreferrer">mgbobh@gmail.com</a>><br>
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<b>Subject:</b> [tr3a] Re: [Mgs] Bleeding brakes question...<u></u><u></u><=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">>=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0Mine does indicate such a fau=
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<span class=3D"m_1322536497773774782money">$55</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">> plastic switch, the inside fender paint showing=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Mine too, Bob! Exactly the same.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Fri, Apr 26, 2019, 8:33 AM Robert's New iPad =
<<a href=3D"mailto:mgbobh@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0 =C2=A0The MGB workshop manual says to do long=
est first. MGBs initially had a single circuit, then two, and a shuttle-dev=
ice that would indicate if one system were leaking.=C2=A0
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0I suppose, and this is just supposition, that the longer lines=
have the possibility of more air therein, the shorter ones to front disc b=
rakes move more fluid, so our bleeding longest first would be least likely =
to cause that valve to indicate a leak fault.<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Mine does indicate such a fault, as it leaks right through the=
$55 plastic switch, the inside fender paint showing that.
<br>
<br>
> On Apr 26, 2019, at 9:18 AM, Richard Lindsay via Mgs <<a href=3D"ma=
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m.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0On vehicles with independent front and rear brake h=
ydraulic circuits, is it still advisable to bleed the longest pipe run firs=
t? That is, does it matter if one bleeds the front brakes first?<br>
> <br>
> Rick<br>
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