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Re: [Mgs] Mgs Digest, Vol 145, Issue 12

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Subject: Re: [Mgs] Mgs Digest, Vol 145, Issue 12
From: Harlan Jillson via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net>
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2019 16:13:05 -0500
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I believe the â??not intended for passenger carsâ?? is because of the added 
friction reducers, which play havoc with catalytic converters.
Harlan

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> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2019 10:37:33 -0500
> From: Charley Robinson <Charley38@twc.com>
> To: Max Heim <mvheim@sonic.net>, MG List <mgs@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Mgs] oil
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2019 10:37:33 -0500
> From: Charley Robinson <Charley38@twc.com>
> To: Max Heim <mvheim@sonic.net>, MG List <mgs@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Mgs] oil
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> VR1 contains an additive package. I would hope there's a detergent in 
> it, because it's what I'm using.
> ? Viz: https://www.valvoline.com/about-us/faq/racing-oil-faq
> 
> CR
> 
>> On 6/17/2019 5:06 PM, Max Heim via Mgs wrote:
>> 
>> Valvoline VR1 Racing Oil is one (although it may be non-optimal for 
>> other reasons, such as lack of detergent)
>> Mobil1 Synthetic 15W50 (this weight ONLY in this brand)
>> Certain weights from Kendall, Royal Purple, Gibbs
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Max Heim
>> '66 MGB
>> 
>>> On Jun 17, 2019, at 2:47 PM, Bert Palte via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net 
>>> <mailto:mgs@autox.team.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, also over here in Europe it has become less easily available.
>>> If nothing else is available, 10W40 will do.
>>> I use mineral oil. That is good enough, our cars aren't high tech!
>>> 
>>> Bert
>>> 70 B
>>> SA4BRL
>>> PA0LPS
>>> --
>>> Sent from my Android phone with GMX Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>>> On 2019-06-17, 23:19 dave via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net 
>>> <mailto:mgs@autox.team.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>    I?ve been using Valvoline 20w 50 full synthetic for several years
>>>    now, and it used to be immediately available from Amazon with
>>>    free shipping.? It has zddp.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>    Now its 1 to 2 months.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>    However ? Advanced Auto Parts
>>>    
>>> -https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/valvoline-vr1-racing-20w-50-full-synthetic-motor-oil-1-quart-679082/10069836-P?searchTerm=valvoline+20w-50+full+synthetic
>>> 
>>> 
>>>    free shipping with a minimum order of $25, which is 3 quarts.?
>>>    You can buy it any number of quarts (from Amazon it?s a 6 pack),
>>>    and it?s a couple pennies cheaper!!!
>>> 
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> From: Max Heim <mvheim@sonic.net>
> To: MG List <mgs@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Mgs] oil
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> Quote from the first paragraph of the FAQ:
> 
> The Valvoline VR1 Racing and other racing oils 
> <https://www.valvoline.com/our-products/motor-oil> not intended for passenger 
> vehicles contain additional additives for increased horsepower and reduced 
> friction on metal parts, provide extra wear protection for high 
> compression/higher horsepower engines, and include fewer detergents than 
> regular conventional motor oils.
> 
> So, that answers that question. If you change your oil frequently, it 
> probably isn?t a problem, though.
> 
> I have used racing oil in the transmission, however, because reduced friction 
> and wear protection are relevant concepts, and detergent is pointless (since 
> no combustion blow-by).
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Max Heim
> '66 MGB
> 
> 
>> On Jun 19, 2019, at 8:37 AM, Charley Robinson <Charley38@twc.com> wrote:
>> 
>> VR1 contains an additive package. I would hope there's a detergent in it, 
>> because it's what I'm using. 
>>  Viz: https://www.valvoline.com/about-us/faq/racing-oil-faq 
>> <https://www.valvoline.com/about-us/faq/racing-oil-faq>
>> 
>> CR
>> 
>>> On 6/17/2019 5:06 PM, Max Heim via Mgs wrote:
>>> 
>>> Valvoline VR1 Racing Oil is one (although it may be non-optimal for other 
>>> reasons, such as lack of detergent)
>>> Mobil1 Synthetic 15W50 (this weight ONLY in this brand)
>>> Certain weights from Kendall, Royal Purple, Gibbs
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Max Heim
>>> '66 MGB
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 17, 2019, at 2:47 PM, Bert Palte via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net 
>>>> <mailto:mgs@autox.team.net>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, also over here in Europe it has become less easily available.
>>>> If nothing else is available, 10W40 will do.
>>>> I use mineral oil. That is good enough, our cars aren't high tech!
>>>> 
>>>> Bert 
>>>> 70 B 
>>>> SA4BRL 
>>>> PA0LPS
>>>> -- 
>>>> Sent from my Android phone with GMX Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>>>> On 2019-06-17, 23:19 dave via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net 
>>>> <mailto:mgs@autox.team.net>> wrote:
>>>> I?ve been using Valvoline 20w 50 full synthetic for several years now, and 
>>>> it used to be immediately available from Amazon with free shipping.  It 
>>>> has zddp.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Now its 1 to 2 months.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> However ? Advanced Auto Parts - 
>>>> https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/valvoline-vr1-racing-20w-50-full-synthetic-motor-oil-1-quart-679082/10069836-P?searchTerm=valvoline+20w-50+full+synthetic
>>>>  
>>>> <https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/valvoline-vr1-racing-20w-50-full-synthetic-motor-oil-1-quart-679082/10069836-P?searchTerm=valvoline+20w-50+full+synthetic>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> free shipping with a minimum order of $25, which is 3 quarts.  You can buy 
>>>> it any number of quarts (from Amazon it?s a 6 pack), and it?s a couple 
>>>> pennies cheaper!!!
>>>> 
>>>> 
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> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2019 11:38:31 -0500
> From: Charley Robinson <Charley38@twc.com>
> To: Max Heim <mvheim@sonic.net>, MG List <mgs@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Mgs] oil
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> Okay but you said "lack of detergents" and to me that says no detergents 
> because it's the most common usage of the word.
> 
> CR
> 
>> On 6/19/2019 11:27 AM, Max Heim via Mgs wrote:
>> Quote from the first paragraph of the FAQ:
>> 
>> The Valvoline VR1 Racing and other racing oils 
>> <https://www.valvoline.com/our-products/motor-oil>?not intended for 
>> passenger vehicles contain additional additives for increased 
>> horsepower and reduced friction on metal parts, provide extra wear 
>> protection for high compression/higher horsepower engines, and include 
>> _fewer detergents_ than regular conventional motor oils.
>> 
>> So, that answers that question. If you change your oil frequently, it 
>> probably isn?t a problem, though.
>> 
>> I have used racing oil in the transmission, however, because reduced 
>> friction and wear protection are relevant concepts, and detergent is 
>> pointless (since no combustion blow-by).
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Max Heim
>> '66 MGB
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 19, 2019, at 8:37 AM, Charley Robinson <Charley38@twc.com 
>>> <mailto:Charley38@twc.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> VR1 contains an additive package. I would hope there's a detergent in 
>>> it, because it's what I'm using.
>>> ? Viz: https://www.valvoline.com/about-us/faq/racing-oil-faq
>>> 
>>> CR
>>> 
>>>> On 6/17/2019 5:06 PM, Max Heim via Mgs wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Valvoline VR1 Racing Oil is one (although it may be non-optimal for 
>>>> other reasons, such as lack of detergent)
>>>> Mobil1 Synthetic 15W50 (this weight ONLY in this brand)
>>>> Certain weights from Kendall, Royal Purple, Gibbs
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Max Heim
>>>> '66 MGB
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 17, 2019, at 2:47 PM, Bert Palte via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net 
>>>>> <mailto:mgs@autox.team.net>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes, also over here in Europe it has become less easily available.
>>>>> If nothing else is available, 10W40 will do.
>>>>> I use mineral oil. That is good enough, our cars aren't high tech!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bert
>>>>> 70 B
>>>>> SA4BRL
>>>>> PA0LPS
>>>>> --
>>>>> Sent from my Android phone with GMX Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>>>>> On 2019-06-17, 23:19 dave via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net 
>>>>> <mailto:mgs@autox.team.net>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>    I?ve been using Valvoline 20w 50 full synthetic for several
>>>>>    years now, and it used to be immediately available from Amazon
>>>>>    with free shipping.? It has zddp.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>    Now its 1 to 2 months.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>    However ? Advanced Auto Parts
>>>>>    
>>>>> -https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/valvoline-vr1-racing-20w-50-full-synthetic-motor-oil-1-quart-679082/10069836-P?searchTerm=valvoline+20w-50+full+synthetic
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>    free shipping with a minimum order of $25, which is 3 quarts.?
>>>>>    You can buy it any number of quarts (from Amazon it?s a 6
>>>>>    pack), and it?s a couple pennies cheaper!!!
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>    _______________________________________________Mgs@autox.team.net
>>>>>    
>>>>> <mailto:Mgs@autox.team.net>Donate:http://www.team.net/donate.htmlSuggested
>>>>>    annual donation $12.75
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> From: Max Heim <mvheim@sonic.net>
> To: MG List <mgs@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Mgs] oil
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> I don't want to quibble, but I think ?less than expected? or ?insufficient? 
> are also perfectly valid meanings. If I lack money to pay my bills, that 
> doesn?t mean I have absolutely zero money to my name. I just don't have 
> enough.
> 
> I would say that the ?not intended for passenger vehicles? part of the quote 
> justifies my ?insufficient? assumption. What else could it be referring to? 
> ?Too much? anti-friction or anti-wear? Hardly.
> 
> Again, I wasn?t actually criiticizing the idea of using this oil. Lower level 
> of detergent isn?t an engine-killer, if you change the oil regularly. I just 
> know that a lot of people drive their vintage cars infrequently and 
> irregularly, and may not change the oil all that often, so I would hesitate 
> to recommend it as the first option, since there are other alternatives 
> available.
> 
> --
> Max Heim
> '66 MGB
> 
>> On Jun 19, 2019, at 9:38 AM, Charley Robinson <Charley38@twc.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Okay but you said "lack of detergents" and to me that says no detergents 
>> because it's the most common usage of the word.
>> 
>> CR   
>> 
>>> On 6/19/2019 11:27 AM, Max Heim via Mgs wrote:
>>> Quote from the first paragraph of the FAQ:
>>> 
>>> The Valvoline VR1 Racing and other racing oils 
>>> <https://www.valvoline.com/our-products/motor-oil> not intended for 
>>> passenger vehicles contain additional additives for increased horsepower 
>>> and reduced friction on metal parts, provide extra wear protection for high 
>>> compression/higher horsepower engines, and include fewer detergents than 
>>> regular conventional motor oils.
>>> 
>>> So, that answers that question. If you change your oil frequently, it 
>>> probably isn?t a problem, though.
>>> 
>>> I have used racing oil in the transmission, however, because reduced 
>>> friction and wear protection are relevant concepts, and detergent is 
>>> pointless (since no combustion blow-by).
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Max Heim
>>> '66 MGB
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 19, 2019, at 8:37 AM, Charley Robinson <Charley38@twc.com 
>>>> <mailto:Charley38@twc.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> VR1 contains an additive package. I would hope there's a detergent in it, 
>>>> because it's what I'm using. 
>>>>  Viz: https://www.valvoline.com/about-us/faq/racing-oil-faq 
>>>> <https://www.valvoline.com/about-us/faq/racing-oil-faq>
>>>> 
>>>> CR
>>>> 
>>>>> On 6/17/2019 5:06 PM, Max Heim via Mgs wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Valvoline VR1 Racing Oil is one (although it may be non-optimal for other 
>>>>> reasons, such as lack of detergent)
>>>>> Mobil1 Synthetic 15W50 (this weight ONLY in this brand)
>>>>> Certain weights from Kendall, Royal Purple, Gibbs
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Max Heim
>>>>> '66 MGB
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jun 17, 2019, at 2:47 PM, Bert Palte via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net 
>>>>>> <mailto:mgs@autox.team.net>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yes, also over here in Europe it has become less easily available.
>>>>>> If nothing else is available, 10W40 will do.
>>>>>> I use mineral oil. That is good enough, our cars aren't high tech!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Bert 
>>>>>> 70 B 
>>>>>> SA4BRL 
>>>>>> PA0LPS
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Sent from my Android phone with GMX Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>>>>>> On 2019-06-17, 23:19 dave via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net 
>>>>>> <mailto:mgs@autox.team.net>> wrote:
>>>>>> I?ve been using Valvoline 20w 50 full synthetic for several years now, 
>>>>>> and it used to be immediately available from Amazon with free shipping.  
>>>>>> It has zddp.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Now its 1 to 2 months.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> However ? Advanced Auto Parts - 
>>>>>> https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/valvoline-vr1-racing-20w-50-full-synthetic-motor-oil-1-quart-679082/10069836-P?searchTerm=valvoline+20w-50+full+synthetic
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> <https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/valvoline-vr1-racing-20w-50-full-synthetic-motor-oil-1-quart-679082/10069836-P?searchTerm=valvoline+20w-50+full+synthetic>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> free shipping with a minimum order of $25, which is 3 quarts.  You can 
>>>>>> buy it any number of quarts (from Amazon it?s a 6 pack), and it?s a 
>>>>>> couple pennies cheaper!!!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net 
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