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Subject: Re: [Mgs] Modern radio in old MGB car
From: Max Heim via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2019 16:58:30 -0700
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What I was saying is that you used to lose your presets every time you =
disconnected the battery. It was a problem. But I suppose they can use =
flash memory now.

I guess it=E2=80=99s obvious that the last car stereo I bought was back =
in the 90s.

I recently won one in a raffle at a car show, though. But I had no =
intention of having a radio in the B, and it won=E2=80=99t fit my other =
two vintage cars (and it=E2=80=99s inferior to the unit in my wife=E2=80=99=
s car). I haven=E2=80=99t got around to advertising it yet.

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Max Heim
'66 MGB

> On Sep 5, 2019, at 4:08 PM, Barrie Robinson <barrob@bell.net> wrote:
>=20
> Hello Max,
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> Losing presets would not be a feature as that would cause too many =
problems with punters.  Change of battery, disconnect of battery for =
repair, etc etc would cause chaos !!!
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> On 9/5/2019 1:48 PM, Max Heim wrote:
>> IME, when you kill power to a digitally-tuned radio, you lose any =
station presets. But maybe newer units have resolved that issue.
>>=20
>> --
>> Max Heim
>> '66 MGB
>>=20
>>> On Sep 5, 2019, at 8:08 AM, Barrie Robinson via Mgs =
>>>=20
>>> Hello folks,
>>>=20
>>> This is just comments on putting a radio in an MGB.
>>>=20
>>> When I built my MGB GT V8 many years ago I did not put in a radio - =
so recently I decided to put one in.  I wanted a remote USB a facility =
and one Pioneer model offered this so I got my local car radio shop to =
put it in.   Now, I hate adverts and only listen to two stations.   The =
installed radio was great BUT could not pick up the two (weak) stations =
despite a "new all singing, all dancing" windscreen antenna.  Disaster.  =
Not only this but my battery went flat after not using the car for a few =
days.  A nasty problem as electrical leaks are hard to diagnose.  For =
the weak stations problem the Radio shop advised a powered antenna - so =
I bought one from Retro Manufacturing - the lasts small one they had =
that would fit in the rear of the MGB - lucky.   Mounting the powered =
antenna was awkward especially as the install instructions were WRONG.  =
After installation it worked fine - weak stations no problem.   But =
battery flattening continued !!!!   Then radio man thought that modern =
radios had facilities that connected them to "modern" car computers and =
thus the drain as the radio would keep "on" and chatting even when it =
was turned off.    So being an electrical genius I had a kill switch =
installed.    Thus no matter what, the radio would get no power allowing =
it to chat to the car computer and drain the battery.  It works fine.  =
So for those installing a "modern" radio make sure it is not one that =
"talks" to a car computer.  As to the powered antenna, a windshield one =
will do you unless you want to pick up weak stations.
>>>=20
>>> Cheers
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">What I was saying is that you used to lose your presets every =
time you disconnected the battery. It was a problem. But I suppose they =
can use flash memory now.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">I guess it=E2=80=99s obvious that the last car stereo I =
bought was back in the 90s.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div=
 class=3D"">I recently won one in a raffle at a car show, though. But I =
had no intention of having a radio in the B, and it won=E2=80=99t fit my =
other two vintage cars (and it=E2=80=99s inferior to the unit in my =
wife=E2=80=99s car). I haven=E2=80=99t got around to advertising it =
yet.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">
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class=3D"">--</div><div style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 13px; =
min-height: 16px;" class=3D"">Max Heim</div><div style=3D"margin: 0px; =
font-size: 13px;" class=3D"">'66 MGB</div></div></div>
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<br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Sep 5, 2019, at 4:08 PM, Barrie Robinson &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:barrob@bell.net"; class=3D"">barrob@bell.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D"">
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    <font size=3D"-1" class=3D""><font face=3D"Arial" class=3D"">Hello =
Max,<br class=3D"">
        <br class=3D"">
        Losing presets would not be a feature as that would cause too
        many problems with punters.&nbsp; Change of battery, disconnect =
of
        battery for repair, etc etc would cause chaos !!!<br class=3D"">
      </font></font><br class=3D"">
    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 9/5/2019 1:48 PM, Max Heim =
wrote:<br class=3D"">
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite" =
cite=3D"mid:89FB171E-6510-4067-A974-ECDC0CA4C5D5@sonic.net" class=3D"">
      <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html;
        charset=3Dwindows-1252" class=3D"">
      IME, when you kill power to a digitally-tuned radio, you lose any
      station presets. But maybe newer units have resolved that issue.
      <div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
        <div class=3D"">
          <div style=3D"letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
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after-white-space;" class=3D"">
              <div style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 13px;" =
class=3D"">--</div>
              <div style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 13px; min-height:
                16px;" class=3D"">Max Heim</div>
              <div style=3D"margin: 0px; font-size: 13px;" class=3D"">'66
                MGB</div>
            </div>
          </div>
        </div>
        <br class=3D"">
        <div class=3D"">
          <blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">
            <div class=3D"">On Sep 5, 2019, at 8:08 AM, Barrie Robinson
              via Mgs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net"; class=3D""=
 moz-do-not-send=3D"true">mgs@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
            <br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline">
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              <meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html;
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              <div text=3D"#000000" bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" class=3D""> =
<font class=3D"" size=3D"-1"><font class=3D"" face=3D"Arial">Hello
                    folks,<br class=3D"">
                    <br class=3D"">
                    This is just comments on putting a radio in an =
MGB.<br class=3D"">
                    <br class=3D"">
                    When I built my MGB GT V8 many years ago I did not
                    put in a radio - so recently I decided to put one
                    in.&nbsp; I wanted a remote USB a facility and one
                    Pioneer model offered this so I got my local car
                    radio shop to put it in.&nbsp;&nbsp; Now, I hate =
adverts and
                    only listen to two stations.&nbsp;&nbsp; The =
installed radio
                    was great BUT could not pick up the two (weak)
                    stations despite a "new all singing, all dancing"
                    windscreen antenna.&nbsp; Disaster.&nbsp; Not only =
this but my
                    battery went flat after not using the car for a few
                    days.&nbsp; A nasty problem as electrical leaks are =
hard
                    to diagnose.&nbsp; For the weak stations problem the
                    Radio shop advised a powered antenna - so I bought
                    one from Retro Manufacturing - the lasts small one
                    they had that would fit in the rear of the MGB -
                    lucky.&nbsp;&nbsp; Mounting the powered antenna was =
awkward
                    especially as the install instructions were =
WRONG.&nbsp;
                    After installation it worked fine - weak stations no
                    problem. &nbsp; But battery flattening continued =
!!!!&nbsp;&nbsp;
                    Then radio man <i class=3D"">thought </i>that modern
                    radios had facilities that connected them to
                    "modern" car computers and thus the drain as the
                    radio would keep "on" and chatting even when it was
                    turned off.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; So being an electrical =
genius I had a
                    kill switch installed.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Thus no =
matter what, the
                    radio would get no power allowing it to chat to the
                    car computer and drain the battery.&nbsp; It works =
fine.&nbsp;
                    So for those installing a "modern" radio make sure
                    it is not one that "talks" to a car computer.&nbsp; =
As to
                    the powered antenna, a windshield one will do you
                    unless you want to pick up weak stations.<br =
class=3D"">
                    <br class=3D"">
                    Cheers<br class=3D"">
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