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Re: [Mgs] Jaeger Dual Gauge Modern Replacement Accuracy & Calibration

from [PaulHunt73] [Permanent Link][Original]
To: <mgs@autox.team.net>, "Robert J. Guinness" <guinness@stclegal.com>
Subject: Re: [Mgs] Jaeger Dual Gauge Modern Replacement Accuracy & Calibration
From: "PaulHunt73" <paulhunt73@virginmedia.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2020 16:28:00 +0100 8qyJ8lTcqILpzvNm/bT/79DFsQ9zZ/A7ScylcO3jyVJu4cRzE0YcwROaPplrolyGZ9/PCcSPedHelT89+C4/MWzfveadWnbAJXY=
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e-mail signatureNo you aren't, and they would say that as it's obviously =
their gauge that is faulty.  Installed I can't see cooling system =
pressure squeezing the bulb enough to boost the gas pressure and hence =
the gauge reading anywhere near 20 degrees.  I don't know the =
correlation between pressure and reading, but it may be similar to the =
oil section. =20

I have often wondered whether the long (in an MGB at any rate) capillary =
tube being alongside the head in the engine compartment does add a =
little to the reading, as all the tube there could be at 100-plus =
degrees F in hot weather compared to less than 30 degrees in very cold =
weather, with the bulb - presumably with a correctly working stat - =
being at 180F in both cases.

If you were in the UK I'd say demand your money back as it's not fit for =
purpose, there are consumer protection rules, less easy if you are in =
another country.  So many people these days just moan and don't demand =
corrective action, so there is little incentive for suppliers to up =
their game.  The simplest thing is to be aware of it, and take the same =
action when it reads 190 that you would at 212.  Moving the needle could =
cause damage, but there may well be some negative reading that the stop =
prevents that would mean it wouldn't be 20 degrees off the stop when =
cold.  To me though, it would be more irritating to see that, than =
taking account of known under-reading, as I find in both my cars there =
can be significant differences in 'normal' running winter and summer'.  =
Unlike modern cars which I believe are computer controlled to prevent =
owner paranoia with 'normal' variations.

PaulH.


  ----- Original Message -----=20
  I bought a new "Jaeger" dual gauge for my MGA  from a vendor in =
England.  ...  The new gauge never got over a hairs width beyond 190.

  I called the vendor and they intimated that I was crazy to test it the =
way I did.  Am I?  Is there a better way to test it without installing =
it?  Or is installation and an infrared thermometer a preferable way to =
test it.

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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>No you aren't, and they would say that as it's =
obviously their=20
gauge that is faulty.&nbsp; Installed I can't see cooling system =
pressure=20
squeezing the bulb enough to boost the gas pressure and hence the gauge =
reading=20
anywhere near 20 degrees.&nbsp; I don't know the correlation between =
pressure=20
and reading, but it may be similar to the oil section.&nbsp; =
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I have often wondered whether the long (in an MGB at =
any rate)=20
capillary tube being alongside the head in the engine compartment does =
add a=20
little to the reading, as all the tube there could be at 100-plus =
degrees=20
F&nbsp;in hot weather compared to less than 30 degrees in very cold =
weather,=20
with the bulb - presumably with a correctly working stat - being at 180F =
in both=20
cases.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>If you were in the UK I'd say demand your money back =
as it's=20
not fit for purpose,&nbsp;there are consumer protection rules, less easy =
if you=20
are in another country.&nbsp; So many people these days just moan and =
don't=20
demand corrective action, so there is little incentive for suppliers to =
up their=20
game.&nbsp; The simplest thing is to be aware of it, and&nbsp;take the =
same=20
action when it reads 190 that you would at 212.&nbsp; Moving the needle =
could=20
cause damage, but there may well be some negative reading that the stop =
prevents=20
that would mean it wouldn't be 20 degrees off the stop when cold.&nbsp; =
To me=20
though, it would be more irritating to see that, than taking account of =
known=20
under-reading, as I find in both my cars there can be significant =
differences in=20
'normal' running winter and summer'.&nbsp; Unlike modern cars which I =
believe=20
are computer controlled to prevent owner paranoia with 'normal'=20
variations.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>PaulH.</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <P>I bought a new "Jaeger" dual gauge for my MGA&nbsp; from a vendor =
in=20
  England.&nbsp;&nbsp;...&nbsp; The new gauge never got over a hairs =
width=20
  beyond 190.<BR><BR>I called the vendor and they intimated that I was =
crazy to=20
  test it the way I did.&nbsp; Am I?&nbsp; Is there a better way to test =
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