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As long as you don=E2=80=99t claim it=E2=80=99s a zero emission vehicle. =
I think its really na=C3=AFve not to consider that you are just moving =
the source of the emissions.
=20
I saw an interesting study on the actual emissions of electric vehicles, =
broken down by geographic region. And as an extreme, because China =
uses virtually no emission equipment on their coal burning plants you =
actually produce a great deal more emissions with an electric vehicle =
there than gas burning ones.
=20
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From: Mgs <mgs-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Dan DiBiase
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 3:07 PM
To: Hans Duinhoven <h.duinhoven@planet.nl>
Cc: mglist <mgs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Mgs] New MGB
=20
That's surprising as there are plenty running around the US still. I'm =
actually going to be ordering a Tesla Model Y (the small SUV) at the end =
of the year. Can't wait....
=20
Dan D
'76B, '65B
Central NJ USA
http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/
=20
=20
On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 3:13 PM <h.duinhoven@planet.nl =
It is a bit how Tesla started when their car was a Lotus being electric.
A few months ago I read in the news, that such a Tesla finally had been =
depreciated in our country to zero, as the battery was not possible to =
be charged=E2=80=A6
=20
Cheers, Hans
=20
> Namens Max Heim
Verzonden: donderdag 15 oktober 2020 21:01
Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] New MGB
=20
I saw this announcement on the MGOC page. What struck me was that it =
seems to be a case of life imitating art.
=20
I don=E2=80=99t know if any of you ever heard of a book called =
=E2=80=9CZEV-1=E2=80=9D. It was self-published by an author here in =
northern California, back in the 1990s. He used to sell it at British =
car meets, which is where I acquired a copy.
=20
The premise of this book is that an inventor/entrepreneur starts a =
company to build battery electric cars using his proprietary battery =
technology. And he chooses the MGB as his first model. So the story is =
about the struggle to build an electric MGB, fighting industry forces, =
regulators, and unscrupulous rivals.
=20
This announcement really makes me wonder if these people read this book =
20 years ago, or stumbled upon it more recently.
=20
--
Max Heim
=20
=20
=20
On Oct 15, 2020, at 11:28 AM, David Breneman <david_breneman@yahoo.com =
=20
Interesting! It almost certainly will not be allowed into the US unless =
it's built on a vintage body tub, and is therefore a modified "classic" =
car.
=20
David Breneman david_breneman@yahoo.com =
=20
=20
On Thursday, October 15, 2020, 11:06:47 AM PDT, <h.duinhoven@planet.nl =
=20
=20
In the local press was an announcement, that there will be a new built =
MGB again.
Fully electric. Comes with a =E2=82=AC 90,000 pricetag, where one could =
buy 8 normal MGB=E2=80=99s.
=20
https://www.nu.nl/auto/6083327/naast-elektrische-suv-nu-ook-de-oorspronke=
lijke-mgb-elektrisch-gemaakt.html=20
=20
Cheers,
Hans
=20
=E2=80=9971 BGT =E2=80=93 repaired the fuel pump today with new points.
=20
=20
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vlink=3Dpurple style=3D'word-wrap:break-word'><div =
class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>As long as you don=E2=80=99t =
claim it=E2=80=99s a zero emission vehicle.=C2=A0 I think its really =
na=C3=AFve not to consider that you are just moving the source of the =
emissions.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I saw an interesting study on the actual emissions of =
electric vehicles, broken down by geographic region.=C2=A0=C2=A0 And as =
an extreme, because China uses virtually no emission equipment on their =
coal burning plants you actually produce a great deal more emissions =
with an electric vehicle there than gas burning ones.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Mgs =
<mgs-bounces@autox.team.net> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dan =
DiBiase<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 15, 2020 3:07 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
Hans Duinhoven <h.duinhoven@planet.nl><br><b>Cc:</b> mglist =
<mgs@autox.team.net><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Mgs] New =
MGB<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>That's =
surprising as there are plenty running around the US still. I'm actually =
going to be ordering a Tesla Model Y (the small SUV) at the end of the =
year. Can't wait....<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Dan D<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>'76B, '65B<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Central NJ USA<br =
clear=3Dall><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><a =
href=3D"http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/"; =
target=3D"_blank">http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/</a><o:p></o:p></p></di=
v></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 3:13 PM <<a =
href=3D"mailto:h.duinhoven@planet.nl";>h.duinhoven@planet.nl</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>It is a bit how Tesla started when their car was a Lotus =
being electric.</span><span lang=3DNL><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>A few months ago I read in the news, that such a Tesla =
finally had been depreciated in our country to zero, as the battery was =
not possible to be charged=E2=80=A6</span><span =
lang=3DNL><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB> </span><span lang=3DNL><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>Cheers, Hans</span><span lang=3DNL><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB> </span><span =
lang=3DNL><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span =
lang=3DNL>Van:</span></b><span lang=3DNL> Mgs <<a =
href=3D"mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">mgs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> <b>Namens </b>Max =
Heim<br><b>Verzonden:</b> donderdag 15 oktober 2020 21:01<br><b>Aan:</b> =
<a href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">mgs@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [Mgs] =
New MGB<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DNL> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DNL>I saw this announcement on the MGOC page. What struck me was =
that it seems to be a case of life imitating =
art.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DNL> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DNL>I don=E2=80=99t know if any of you ever heard of a book called =
=E2=80=9CZEV-1=E2=80=9D. It was self-published by an author here in =
northern California, back in the 1990s. He used to sell it at British =
car meets, which is where I acquired a =
copy.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DNL> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DNL>The premise of this book is that an inventor/entrepreneur =
starts a company to build battery electric cars using his proprietary =
battery technology. And he chooses the MGB as his first model. So the =
story is about the struggle to build an electric MGB, fighting industry =
forces, regulators, and unscrupulous =
rivals.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DNL> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DNL>This announcement really makes me wonder if these people read =
this book 20 years ago, or stumbled upon it more =
recently.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DNL> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DNL>--<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DNL>Max Heim<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DNL><a href=3D"mailto:mvheim@sonic.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">mvheim@sonic.net</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p=
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DNL> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DNL> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
lang=3DNL><o:p> </o:p></span></p><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DNL>On Oct 15, 2020, at 11:28 AM, David Breneman <<a =
href=3D"mailto:david_breneman@yahoo.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">david_breneman@yahoo.com</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DNL> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DNL =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Interesting!&=
nbsp; It almost certainly will not be allowed into the US unless it's =
built on a vintage body tub, and is therefore a modified =
"classic" car.</span><span =
lang=3DNL><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DNL =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'> </span>=
<span lang=3DNL><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DNL =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>David =
Breneman <a href=3D"mailto:david_breneman@yahoo.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">david_breneman@yahoo.com</a></span><span =
lang=3DNL><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DNL =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'> </span>=
<span lang=3DNL><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DNL =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'> </span>=
<span lang=3DNL><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div =
id=3D"gmail-m_-6017480999604369521ydp7ac3440yahoo_quoted_3119468925"><div=
><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DNL =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>On Thursday, October 15, 2020, 11:06:47 AM PDT, <<a =
href=3D"mailto:h.duinhoven@planet.nl"; =
target=3D"_blank">h.duinhoven@planet.nl</a>> wrote: </span><span =
lang=3DNL><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DNL =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'> </span><span lang=3DNL><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DNL =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'> </span><span lang=3DNL><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div =
id=3D"gmail-m_-6017480999604369521ydp7ac3440yiv7586460495"><div><div><div=
><div><p =
class=3Dgmail-m-6017480999604369521ydp7ac3440yiv7586460495msonormal><span=
lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>In the local press was an announcement, that there will be a new =
built MGB again.</span><span lang=3DNL><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3Dgmail-m-6017480999604369521ydp7ac3440yiv7586460495msonormal><span=
lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Fully electric. Comes with a =E2=82=AC 90,000 pricetag, where one =
could buy 8 normal MGB=E2=80=99s.</span><span =
lang=3DNL><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'> </span><span lang=3DNL><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3Dgmail-m-6017480999604369521ydp7ac3440yiv7586460495msonormal><span=
lang=3DNL =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><a =
href=3D"https://www.nu.nl/auto/6083327/naast-elektrische-suv-nu-ook-de-oo=
rspronkelijke-mgb-elektrisch-gemaakt.html" =
target=3D"_blank">https://www.nu.nl/auto/6083327/naast-elektrische-suv-nu=
-ook-de-oorspronkelijke-mgb-elektrisch-gemaakt.html</a> </span><span =
lang=3DNL><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DNL =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'> </span><span lang=3DNL><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3Dgmail-m-6017480999604369521ydp7ac3440yiv7586460495msonormal><span=
lang=3DNL =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Cheers,</span><span lang=3DNL><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3Dgmail-m-6017480999604369521ydp7ac3440yiv7586460495msonormal><span=
lang=3DNL =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Hans</span><span lang=3DNL><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DNL =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'> </span><span lang=3DNL><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3Dgmail-m-6017480999604369521ydp7ac3440yiv7586460495msonormal><span=
lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>=E2=80=9971 BGT =E2=80=93 repaired the fuel pump today with new =
points.</span><span lang=3DNL><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"gmail-m_-6017480999604369521ydp7ac3440yiv7586460495DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40=
BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DNL =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'> </span><span =
lang=3DNL><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div=
></div></blockquote></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DNL> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br><br>=
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