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Re: [Mgs] Coughing, spitting, and dying

To: Robert Rutherford <rrutherf@ucalgary.ca>
Subject: Re: [Mgs] Coughing, spitting, and dying
From: John DiFede <difejo1@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2022 07:28:15 -0400
Cc: MGB-V8@autox.team.net, MG Digest <mgs@autox.team.net>
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Sounds like a fuel problem.  The Edelbrock 1404 is a simple carburetor to wo=
rk on as it is a copy of the Carter AFB carb used since the 60=E2=80=99s.  I=
s your choke set properly when cold and hot?   The AFB used a mechanical fue=
l pump- make sure that facet pump you=E2=80=99re using has the correct fuel p=
ressure for the AFB.  Also check your vacuum.  Is the vacuum reading steady o=
r is the gauge needle fluctuating back and forth?   You may have a vacuum le=
ak affecting fuel mixture.  When the engine is cold and the choke is on you h=
ave a rich mixture allowing the engine to run poorly.  Once the choke opens t=
he mixture goes lean due to the vacuum leak possibly leading to your motor s=
talling. =20

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> On Apr 23, 2022, at 11:10 PM, Robert Rutherford <rrutherf@ucalgary.ca> wro=
te:
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> =EF=BB=BF Coughs, spits, dies - sounds like Covid to me.
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>>> On Apr 21, 2022, at 12:34 PM, Max Heim <mvheim@sonic.net> wrote:
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>>> [=E2=96=B3EXTERNAL]
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>>> Sounds more like a carb/fuel issue to me. Can=E2=80=99t see how it would=
 be electrical.
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>>> Sent from my iPad
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>>> On Apr 21, 2022, at 11:58 AM, jimray@hartcom.net wrote:
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>>> =EF=BB=BF
>>> Have an 80 MGB V8 conversion that has developed a problem I can=E2=80=99=
t get my hands around. When cold it coughs and sputters when first starting u=
p and when warm will not run at idle without stalling after several minutes.=
 Thinking it might be an electrical issue, I replaced the plugs, plug wires,=
 distributor cap, coil, and battery. It has a PerTronix Ignitor module insta=
lled which I did not replace. The battery shows 12.7 volts on my meter. The a=
lternator is producing 14.6 volts at ~1500 RPMs and 14.3 under load. Fuel is=
 fed to an Edelbrock 1404 carburetor via a Facet electric pump with new filt=
ers in the line at the pump and just before the carburetor. I use 93 octane n=
on-ethanol gas. I appreciate any thoughts or suggestions you may have.
>>> =20
>>> Jim Ray
>>> =20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Sounds like a fuel problem. &nbsp;The Edelb=
rock 1404 is a simple carburetor to work on as it is a copy of the Carter AFB=
 carb used since the 60=E2=80=99s. &nbsp;Is your choke set properly when col=
d and hot? &nbsp; The AFB used a mechanical fuel pump- make sure that facet p=
ump you=E2=80=99re using has the correct fuel pressure for the AFB. &nbsp;Al=
so check your vacuum. &nbsp;Is the vacuum reading steady or is the gauge nee=
dle fluctuating back and forth? &nbsp; You may have a vacuum leak affecting f=
uel mixture. &nbsp;When the engine is cold and the choke is on you have a ri=
ch mixture allowing the engine to run poorly. &nbsp;Once the choke opens the=
 mixture goes lean due to the vacuum leak possibly leading to your motor sta=
lling. &nbsp;<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone&nbsp;</div><div di=
r=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Apr 23, 2022, at 11:10 PM, Robert=
 Rutherford &lt;rrutherf@ucalgary.ca&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><b=
lockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF

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Sounds more like a carb/fuel issue to me. Can=E2=80=99t see how it would be e=
lectrical.<br class=3D"">
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<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">Sent from my iPad</div>
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<blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">On Apr 21, 2022, at 11:58 AM,<span clas=
s=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a href=3D"mailto:jimray@hartcom.ne=
t" class=3D"">jimray@hartcom.net</a><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&n=
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<span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=3D"">=
Have an 80 MGB V8 conversion that has developed a problem I can=E2=80=99t ge=
t my hands around. When cold it coughs and sputters when first starting up a=
nd when warm will not run at idle without
 stalling after several minutes. Thinking it might be an electrical issue, I=
 replaced the plugs, plug wires, distributor cap, coil, and battery. It has a=
 PerTronix Ignitor module installed which I did not replace. The battery sho=
ws 12.7 volts on my meter. The
 alternator is producing 14.6 volts at ~1500 RPMs and 14.3 under load. Fuel i=
s fed to an Edelbrock 1404 carburetor via a Facet electric pump with new fil=
ters in the line at the pump and just before the carburetor. I use 93 octane=
 non-ethanol gas. I appreciate
 any thoughts or suggestions you may have.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div=
>
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