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Re: Trans input shaft length

To: David Kernberger <dkern@napanet.net>
Subject: Re: Trans input shaft length
From: "Paul A. Asgeirsson" <Pasgeirsson@worldnet.att.net>
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 19:27:39 -0800
Hi Dave,

Spring in the Napa valley yet?  Wonderful time of year, then.

The thin  vs thick plate.  Because the rib case trans, all, have a longer input
shaft, you need to mount it on the thick plate.  If you mount it on a thin 
plate,

there is the possibility of not having a neutral as the input shaft might jam in
the bottom of the pilot bush area against the crankshaft.  Not good!

If you want to mount a smooth case on an engine with a thick backing plate, the
input shaft just wouldn't fit all the way in the pilot bush.  Usually a smooth
case behind a 1098 or 1275 is not a long life setup as there is more torque
developed in these engines than the trans was designed for and it has a weak
pocket bushing in the input shaft.

Keep in mind that there are 3 types of thick engine backing plates.  The 1098
1-3/4"  main, the 1098 2" main.  You can use the 2" main plate on the 1-3/4" 
main

engine, but not the other way around.  The 1275 plate is for the 1275, but can 
be

used on the 1098s if you use a 1275 back plate gasket and 1275 oil pump cover.
The 1275 has the oil pump in a different location than the 1098s but the bigger
1275 cover and different gasket will work OK.

The thin plates will work only on the 948 and the 1-3/4" main 1098.  This oil
pump cover is soldered in place on the plate.

Does this help answer your question?

Regards, Paul A



David Kernberger wrote:

> 1/10/02
>
> To the group,
>
>         1100 cc Spridget (maybe 1275 cc as well) engines have a thicker
> plate between engine and gearbox than do the 948 Morris minors.  I have
> known this for a long time but only recently realized it brings up a
> question.  Does this mean the ribcase gearbox, used on 1100s and 1275s, has
> a longer input shaft than do the smoothcase trannies used on the 948s????
> Also, does this mean that fitting a smoothcase box to an engine with the
> thick plate will result in a shaft which does not enter the pilot bushing
> completely???
>
>         Or this thickness difference taken care of in some other way, such
> as machining material of the rear face of the engine block??  I would
> really like to know just what the situation is.
>
> TIA.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave Kernberger

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