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To: "Mike Rambour" <mikey@b2systems.com>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] resistance (tong type) spot welders
From: "Eric J Russell" <ejrussell@mebtel.net>
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 10:55:57 -0500
I was browsing through some old emails and stumbled on this one.

Mike, any updates on your project? Did you use the H-F spot welder?

Eric Russell
Mebane, NC
http://home.mebtel.net/~ejrussell

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Rambour" <mikey@b2systems.com>
To: "Eric J Russell" <ejrussell@mebtel.net>
Cc: "shop-talk" <shop-talk@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] resistance (tong type) spot welders


> Eric,
>
> Perfect, thank you for the response, its what I was hoping for.  I 
> was hoping someone here had actually used the HF one, sounds like it 
> will work good enough for me.
>
> I am in Santa Barbara, Calif. and thanks for the offer of the loan, 
> bet that once I get all the sheet metal bent and in place I only 
> need the welder for 3 or 4 days but you are right, shipping it will 
> cost more than buying one and having it for other uses in the 
> future.
>
>  Oh and since I was asked why don't I buy the firewall and floor 
> panels with the quote "since they are made for most cars".  I am 
> putting together a 1934 Singer Le Mans, you don't call too many 
> people and buy those parts.  The original firewall was a mixture of 
> wood and aluminum and the trans tunnel was made of "I sure don't 
> know", the floor is just plywood.  I don't have most of those parts 
> so I am building a proper firewall with no flammable wood and then a 
> nice trans tunnel, I will still use plywood for the floors.  I had 
> hoped to get to the UK this year for Singer national so I could take 
> LOTS of pics since I have not seen another one of these here in the 
> U.S. but I wont get there this year and don't want to wait anymore, 
> so I will guess it best as I can and no one in the U.S. will know 
> its wrong anyway (this list excepted of course).
>
>    mike
>
> Eric J Russell wrote:
>> I bought the H-F unit to spot weld on the sills & pillars for my 
>> MGA.
>>
>> It works adequately for my purpose. I made a few test welds using 
>> scraps of sheet metal then tested them to destruction. They were 
>> hard enough to destroy to satisfy me. BTW, I also used 'weld 
>> through' primer between the pieces. It does burn away the primer in 
>> the heat affected zone but didn't seem to adversely affect the spot 
>> welds. Keep in mind the unit is quite heavy -  a factor if you must 
>> contort into odd positions or make long reaches to make the welds. 
>> Also, the sheet metal should fit together well in order to make 
>> good spot welds. Don't use the tong's clamping force to draw the 
>> parts into contact.
>>
>> H-F does sell a set of 'extended reach' tongs. They are not 
>> available in the retail stores though. And now I can't find them on 
>> their web page.
>>
>> Where are you in cyberspace? You are welcome to borrow mine but it 
>> is probably not worth shipping vs buying one on sale at H-F.
>>
>> Eric Russell
>> Mebane, NC
>> http://home.mebtel.net/~ejrussell
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Rambour"
>>>
>>> I was looking at a tong type resistance spot welder,
>>>
>>>  Looking for suggestions, will the HF unit work for one job ? will 
>>> I be
>>> sorry I got it ?
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