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Re: [Shop-talk] Toyota Pedal Brouhaha

To: Tony Vaccaro <tvacc@lotusowners.com>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Toyota Pedal Brouhaha
From: Ben Zwissler <bjzwissler@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2010 18:44:01 -0500
According to a story I heard on NPR, many manufacturer's do just that 
(noted were GM and Chrysler).  Toyota and Honda were cited as having 
decided not to include a throttle override when the brakes were 
depressed.  Also reported was that Toyota was rushing such a software 
feature for future upgrades to their engine controls.  I know for a fact 
that the old DaimlerChrysler had a "drive by wire" policy that said a 
throttle override feature must be included to protect for just these 
situations.  NPR did not have an explanation from Toyota or Honda on why 
they'd chosen not to include this feature.

Ben Zwissler
bjzwissler@gmail.com
Columbus, IN
1966 Triumph TR4A
1973 MG Midget
1980 Triumph TR8
2007 Mazda RX8
2002 Yamaha FZ1
2003 Honda ST1300


On 2/2/2010 5:26 PM, Tony Vaccaro wrote:
> It seems to me that it would be easy to put a circuit in the cars computer
> that would override the dbw pedal if it sensed that the throttle was more
> than 1/4 down (or something like that) and the brake was full on.
>
> At no time (unless you are doing burnouts) should the brake be full on the
> the throttle depressed more than 1/4 or 1/8 of the way.
>
> Seems like a no brainer to me.
>
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> I have heard that if you push in the button and hold it in, it turns
> off.  Maybe it was on NPR??
>
> Gerald Brazil wrote:
>    
>> If you just turn the key off you loose power steering and brakes.....
>>
>> I have a Nissan with a "Smart Key" and I got to thinking about what to
>> do.....I decided to see how it worked. When I was driving I couldn't turn
>>      
> it
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>> off by pushing the "Stop/Start" button.
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