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Re: [Shop-talk] need some copper plumbing help from the gurus

To: john niolon <jniolon@att.net>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] need some copper plumbing help from the gurus
From: Pat Horne <patintexas@icloud.com>
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 09:55:11 -0500
Cc: shop-talk <shop-talk@autox.team.net>, David Scheidt <dmscheidt@gmail.com>
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Just thought of a quick fix. Use a 3/4=E2=80=9D flare fitting & file out the=
 nut to fit over the copper. Make up the connection & adapt it as you see fi=
t.=20

Peace,
Pat

Pat Horne=20
We support Caldwell County Habitat for Humanity


On Oct 21, 2018, at 7:33 AM, john niolon <jniolon@att.net> wrote:

it=E2=80=99s not out of round, Dave.  I mic=E2=80=99d it all the way around.=
.. and it was within .001 .  Someone mentioned freezing...  this pipe did fr=
eeze and burst in the past.  but the break was a foot above where I=E2=80=99=
m taking measurements.  That whole foot was removed.  I guess it could have e=
xpanded the whole section above the floor some.   And the section removed is=
 the same diameter as what I=E2=80=99m looking at now so that might be a clu=
e..  If my old back and knees will allow it, I=E2=80=99m going into the craw=
l space on the other end of the line and check sizes there, gotta do it anyw=
ay to turn it back on eventually.=20
=20
I talked to an old  plumber as suggested (well, he=E2=80=99s as old as me...=
70=E2=80=99s) and he suggested reaming/swaging the tube and insert a short s=
ection of standard 3/4 straight pipe and solder it in well.  That would get m=
e back to standard sizes.  I think I=E2=80=99m gonna try that tomorrow.   Th=
e fittings I=E2=80=99m using came from Home Depot/Lowes but I also checked s=
ome older fittings and they were the same measurements...  More to come !
=20
From: David Scheidt
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2018 7:06 AM
To: john niolon
Cc: shop-talk
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] need some copper plumbing help from the gurus
=20
=20

> On Oct 20, 2018, at 12:07, john niolon <jniolon@att.net> wrote:
>=20
> When we built my house/shop 25 years ago I had the plumber install a 3/4=E2=
=80=9D water line to the shop and cap it off.  I was going to put in the sin=
k and the outside faucet when I got time.  Well,  this week I got time
> =20
> I cut the cap off and test fitted a 3/4=E2=80=9D Tee to start dry fitting t=
he plumbing for sink/faucet.  The Tee wouldn=E2=80=99t fit on the tubing.  I=
 cleaned it well but the Tee was still too small to fit over the tubing.  It=
 looks like he used coiled tubing, or at least that=E2=80=99s what=E2=80=99s=
 coming up thru the concrete.
=20
Is it out of round?  That=E2=80=99s a common problem with soft tube.  Plumbe=
rs have rerounding tools for the problem.=20
=20
> =20

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Just thought of a quick fix. Use a 3/4=E2=80=
=9D flare fitting &amp; file out the nut to fit over the copper. Make up the=
 connection &amp; adapt it as you see fit.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Peace,</=
div><div>Pat<br><br><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr">Pat Horne&nbs=
p;<div>We support Caldwell County Habitat for Humanity</div><div><br></div><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Oct 21, 2018, at 7:33 AM, john niolon &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:jniolon@att.net";>jniolon@att.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">
<meta content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8" http-equiv=3D"content-type">

<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000">
<div>it=E2=80=99s not out of round, Dave.&nbsp; I mic=E2=80=99d it all the w=
ay around... and it=20
was within .001 .&nbsp; Someone mentioned freezing...&nbsp; this pipe did fr=
eeze=20
and burst in the past.&nbsp; but the break was a foot above where I=E2=80=99=
m taking=20
measurements.&nbsp; That whole foot was removed.&nbsp; I guess it could have=
=20
expanded the whole section above the floor some.&nbsp;&nbsp; And the section=
=20
removed is the same diameter as what I=E2=80=99m looking at now so that migh=
t be a=20
clue..&nbsp; If my old back and knees will allow it, I=E2=80=99m going into t=
he crawl=20
space on the other end of the line and check sizes there, gotta do it anyway=
 to=20
turn it back on eventually.&nbsp; </div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>I talked to an old&nbsp; plumber as suggested (well, he=E2=80=99s as ol=
d as=20
me...70=E2=80=99s) and he suggested reaming/swaging the tube and insert a sh=
ort section=20
of standard 3/4 straight pipe and solder it in well.&nbsp; That would get me=
=20
back to standard sizes.&nbsp; I think I=E2=80=99m gonna try that tomorrow.&n=
bsp;&nbsp;=20
The fittings I=E2=80=99m using came from Home Depot/Lowes but I also checked=
 some older=20
fittings and they were the same measurements...&nbsp; More to come !</div>
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: &quot;Ca=
libri&quot;; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLA=
Y: inline">
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<div style=3D"font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a title=3D"dmscheidt@gmail.co=
m" href=3D"mailto:dmscheidt@gmail.com";>David Scheidt</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, October 21, 2018 7:06 AM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"jniolon@att.net" href=3D"mailto:jniolon@att.net"=
>john=20
niolon</a> </div>
<div><b>Cc:</b> <a title=3D"shop-talk@autox.team.net" href=3D"mailto:shop-ta=
lk@autox.team.net">shop-talk</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] need some copper plumbing help from the=
=20
gurus</div></div></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div></div>
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libri&quot;; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLA=
Y: inline">
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<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><br>On Oct 20, 2018, at 12:07, john niolon &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jniolo=
n@att.net">jniolon@att.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
  <div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr">
  <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000">
  <div>When we built my house/shop 25 years ago I had the plumber install a 3=
/4=E2=80=9D=20
  water line to the shop and cap it off.&nbsp; I was going to put in the sin=
k=20
  and the outside faucet when I got time.&nbsp; Well,&nbsp; this week I got=20=

  time</div>
  <div>&nbsp;</div>
  <div>I cut the cap off and test fitted a 3/4=E2=80=9D Tee to start dry fit=
ting the=20
  plumbing for sink/faucet.&nbsp; The Tee wouldn=E2=80=99t fit on the tubing=
.&nbsp; I=20
  cleaned it well but the Tee was still too small to fit over the tubing.&nb=
sp;=20
  It looks like he used coiled tubing, or at least that=E2=80=99s what=E2=80=
=99s coming up thru=20
  the concrete. </div></div></div></div></blockquote>
<div>&nbsp;</div>Is it out of round?&nbsp; That=E2=80=99s a common problem w=
ith soft=20
tube.&nbsp; Plumbers have rerounding tools for the problem.&nbsp;=20
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>
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