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Re: [Shop-talk] Help identifying a chip

To: jdinnis@gmail.com, battmain@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Help identifying a chip
From: DAVID MASSEY via Shop-talk <shop-talk@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 02:07:58 +0000 (UTC)
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Actally, you can make it an adjustable regulator but if you are going to or=
der something you may as well get a 317 which is designed for this.=C2=A0 P=
lus the data sheet will give you hints on how to do this.

Dave
On Sunday, February 24, 2019 John Innis via Shop-talk <jdinnis@gmail.com> w=
rote:
A 7805 is a fixed regulator.=C2=A0 There are other parts in the linear SERI=
ES that are variable output, but if it has a 7805 part number, it will alwa=
ys output a fixed 5v.=C2=A0=20

On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 10:08 AM Battmain via Shop-talk <shop-talk@autox.te=
am.net> wrote:

 Could I use *any* MC7805CT as a replacement, as the first link shows diffe=
rent models of that regulator? Some models of the regulator have variable o=
utput as listed in the second link. I suspect the output should stay consta=
nt for power, but since the amp output section has the pot on it, was wonde=
ring if I should go with the adjustable output regulator or just stick with=
 a fixed output?

Brian




    On Saturday, February 23, 2019, 9:37:17 AM EST, Pat Horne <patintexas@i=
cloud.com> wrote: =20
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 This chip is a voltage regulator, not the audio amplifier. The part number=
 indicates that it is a 5v fixed regulator.=C2=A0
Peace,=C2=A0Pat

Pat Horne=C2=A0We support Habitat for Humanity

On Feb 23, 2019, at 7:35 AM, Battmain via Shop-talk <shop-talk@autox.team.n=
et> wrote:

 I did look up that model, however, here is an example from this site...MC7=
805CT Datasheet, PDF - Alldatasheet


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They list multiple models of that chip. The one I think is closest is...htt=
p://pdf1.alldatasheet.com/datasheet-pdf/view/82852/FAIRCHILD/MC7805CT.html
because of the variable output.=C2=A0 The amp does have level/volume pot on=
 it. The other datasheets in the list do not show a variable output.
Brian

    On Saturday, February 23, 2019, 6:30:21 AM EST, Jeff Scarbrough <fishpl=
ate@gmail.com> wrote: =20
=20
 How about LM7805CT?

On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 2:16 AM Battmain via Shop-talk
<shop-talk@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Finally got around to installing an amplified speaker I had sitting aroun=
d for years.=C2=A0 It was supposed to be a simple install, but looks like I=
 fried something in the haste.
>
> I already picked up the capacitor in the picture,=C2=A0 but I think the r=
egulator might be fried also based on the burn marks.Seems there are differ=
ent models of that regulator.=C2=A0 The amp is in a 12v application.=C2=A0 =
Anybody have any ideas as to what model regulator it is? (or what I could s=
ubstitute it with? Will be getting it from that auction site. :) )
> Picture in the link...(that's the best I could get) https://i.imgur.com/F=
IfJA4O.jpg
>
> I figure if I throw $5 at it in parts, it wouldn't hurt to try.
>
>
> Brian
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<p dir=3D"ltr">Actally, you can make it an adjustable regulator but if you =
are going to order something you may as well get a 317 which is designed fo=
r this.&nbsp; Plus the data sheet will give you hints on how to do this.</p=
>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Dave</p>
</br></br><div class=3D"device_aol_et_org_dt_dd_quote"></div><hr style=3D"b=
order:0;height:1px;color:#999;background-color:#999;width:100%;margin:0 0 9=
px 0;padding:0;"></hr><span style=3D"font-size:14px; color:#999999;">On Sun=
day, February 24, 2019 John Innis via Shop-talk &#60;<span style=3D"color:#=
0000A0">jdinnis@gmail.com</span>&#62; wrote:</span><br></br><div id=3D"yiv4=
631568107"><html><div><div dir=3D"ltr">A 7805 is a fixed regulator.=C2=A0 T=
here are other parts in the linear SERIES that are variable output, but if =
it has a 7805 part number, it will always output a fixed 5v.=C2=A0 <br clea=
r=3D"none"></div><br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"yiv4631568107gmail_quote"=
><div class=3D"yiv4631568107yqt2218788159" id=3D"yiv4631568107yqt02989"><di=
v class=3D"yiv4631568107gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 10:=
08 AM Battmain via Shop-talk &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=
=3D"mailto:shop-talk@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:shop-=
talk@autox.team.net">shop-talk@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"no=
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if;font-size:16px;"><div></div>
        <div>Could I use *any* MC7805CT as a replacement, as the first link=
 shows different models of that regulator? Some models of the regulator hav=
e variable output as listed in the second link. I suspect the output should=
 stay constant for power, but since the amp output section has the pot on i=
t, was wondering if I should go with the adjustable output regulator or jus=
t stick with a fixed output?</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div><br cl=
ear=3D"none"></div><div>Brian</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div><br c=
lear=3D"none"></div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div><br clear=3D"none"><=
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                    On Saturday, February 23, 2019, 9:37:17 AM EST, Pat Hor=
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ud.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:patintexas@icloud.com";>patintexas@=
icloud.com</a>&gt; wrote:
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                <div><div id=3D"yiv4631568107gmail-m_4970131661470459166ydp=
4db1db92yiv6690341354"><div>This chip is a voltage regulator, not the audio=
 amplifier. The part number indicates that it is a 5v fixed regulator.=C2=
=A0<div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Peace,=C2=A0</div><div>Pat<br clear=
=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv4631568107gmail-m_49=
70131661470459166ydp4db1db92yiv6690341354AppleMailSignature">Pat Horne=C2=
=A0<div>We support Habitat for Humanity</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div>=
</div><div class=3D"yiv4631568107gmail-m_4970131661470459166ydp4db1db92yiv6=
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b1db92yiv6690341354yqt20296"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none">On Feb 23,=
 2019, at 7:35 AM, Battmain via Shop-talk &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"=
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ultiple models of that chip. The one I think is closest is...</div><div><a =
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tasheet.com/datasheet-pdf/view/82852/FAIRCHILD/MC7805CT.html">http://pdf1.a=
lldatasheet.com/datasheet-pdf/view/82852/FAIRCHILD/MC7805CT.html</a><br cle=
ar=3D"none"></div><div>because of the variable output.=C2=A0 The amp does h=
ave level/volume pot on it. The other datasheets in the list do not show a =
variable output.</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Brian</div><div><b=
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                    On Saturday, February 23, 2019, 6:30:21 AM EST, Jeff Sc=
arbrough &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:fishplate=
@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:fishplate@gmail.com";>fishplate=
@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:
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                <div><div dir=3D"ltr">How about LM7805CT?<br clear=3D"none"=
><div class=3D"yiv4631568107gmail-m_4970131661470459166ydp4db1db92yiv669034=
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6ydp4db1db92yiv6690341354ydpbf13efe9yqtfd96835"><br clear=3D"none">On Sat, =
Feb 23, 2019 at 2:16 AM Battmain via Shop-talk<br clear=3D"none">&lt;<a rel=
=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:shop-talk@autox.team.net"; ta=
rget=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:shop-talk@autox.team.net";>shop-talk@autox.te=
am.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt; Finally=
 got around to installing an amplified speaker I had sitting around for yea=
rs.=C2=A0 It was supposed to be a simple install, but looks like I fried so=
mething in the haste.<br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt; I alrea=
dy picked up the capacitor in the picture,=C2=A0 but I think the regulator =
might be fried also based on the burn marks.Seems there are different model=
s of that regulator.=C2=A0 The amp is in a 12v application.=C2=A0 Anybody h=
ave any ideas as to what model regulator it is? (or what I could substitute=
 it with? Will be getting it from that auction site. :) )<br clear=3D"none"=
>&gt; Picture in the link...(that&#39;s the best I could get) <a rel=3D"nof=
ollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://i.imgur.com/FIfJA4O=
.jpg">https://i.imgur.com/FIfJA4O.jpg</a><br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=
=3D"none">&gt; I figure if I throw $5 at it in parts, it wouldn&#39;t hurt =
to try.<br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt=
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