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Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Plumbing fun
From: Jim Stone via Shop-talk <shop-talk@autox.team.net>
Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2019 19:28:49 -0400
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I=E2=80=99ve had good experience with SharkBite fittings, but one thing =
I don=E2=80=99t like about them is the fact that they allow the fitting =
to rotate after installation.  The first time I used them was to put =
shut off valves on a bathroom sink (the plumber was only responsible for =
the rough-in work).  They are leak-free 2 years on, but I don=E2=80=99t =
like the fact that the valves can rotate when you use them.  Since then, =
I=E2=80=99ve tried to design any other SharkBite uses such that =
everything is locked down when done.

> On Jul 30, 2019, at 9:47 PM, Ronnie Day via Shop-talk =
<shop-talk@autox.team.net> wrote:
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> We did our small cabin using primarily pex and the sharkbite push to =
connect (PTC) connectors. Yes, individually they're expensive, but we =
spent way less than a good crimper would've cost, about 3 years ago when =
I did the plumbing lines. They also have the advantage of being more =
easily changed than with a crimper. Shower, bathroom and kitchen sinks =
all grouped together.
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> I would not buy rolled pex. It's NOT very flexible. The local plumbing =
supply had sticks in 10 and 20 foot lengths and I used a simple hand =
held cutter. It worked great. There are plenty of adapters and valves to =
connect the pex to threaded pipe and fittings. HD and Lowes started =
carrying more of the no traditional options since we did our place.
>=20
> We're on 10 acres not far from Bryan/College Station and use rainwater =
collection so the water is filtered probably better than a well without =
extra filtering would be. The whole system has worked out very well.
>=20
> RD
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> On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 8:17 PM Steven Trovato via Shop-talk =
> There are screens at the inlets where the hoses connect to the back=20
> of my washing machine.  When I have this problem, I always find a=20
> bunch of sediment and debris clogging up the screens.  It is easy to=20=

> check and easy to fix.  Invest ten minutes in checking that before=20
> you start a major project. These are what I'm talking=20
> about:=20
> =
www.amazon.com/Danco-80070-Washers-Screen-Black/dp/B000KKULR2/ref=3Dsr_1_1=
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sr_1_11>
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> -Steve
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> At 09:01 PM 7/30/2019, Mark J Bradakis via Shop-talk wrote:
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> >And then, this project has got me thinking.  It might be my cue to=20
> >buy a roll of PEX, a cutter and a crimper and start using it to fix=20=

> >this problem and the next one on my list, the washing machine.  At=20
> >the moment when you select a hot water wash, the machine fills up at=20=

> >a rate of about a gallon a day.  Is it just the fill hose being=20
> >clogged, or the valve, or the pipes feeding it?  Fun fun fun!
> >
> >mjb.
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charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
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class=3D"">I=E2=80=99ve had good experience with SharkBite fittings, but =
one thing I don=E2=80=99t like about them is the fact that they allow =
the fitting to rotate after installation. &nbsp;The first time I used =
them was to put shut off valves on a bathroom sink (the plumber was only =
responsible for the rough-in work). &nbsp;They are leak-free 2 years on, =
but I don=E2=80=99t like the fact that the valves can rotate when you =
use them. &nbsp;Since then, I=E2=80=99ve tried to design any other =
SharkBite uses such that everything is locked down when done.<br =
class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Jul 30, 2019, at 9:47 PM, Ronnie Day via Shop-talk &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:shop-talk@autox.team.net"; =
class=3D"">shop-talk@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"">We did our small cabin using primarily pex and the sharkbite =
push to connect (PTC) connectors. Yes, individually they're expensive, =
but we spent way less than a good crimper would've cost, about 3 years =
ago when I did the plumbing lines. They also have the advantage of being =
more easily changed than with a crimper. Shower, bathroom and kitchen =
sinks all grouped together.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">I would not buy rolled pex. It's NOT very flexible. The local =
plumbing supply had sticks in 10 and 20 foot lengths and I used a simple =
hand held cutter. It worked great. There are plenty of adapters and =
valves to connect the pex to threaded pipe and fittings. HD and Lowes =
started carrying more of the no traditional options since we did our =
place.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">We're on 10 =
acres not far from Bryan/College Station and use rainwater collection so =
the water is filtered probably better than a well without extra =
filtering would be. The whole system has worked out very =
well.</div></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">RD</div></div><br class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 8:17 PM Steven =
Trovato via Shop-talk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:shop-talk@autox.team.net"; =
class=3D"">shop-talk@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br =
class=3D""></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px =
0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid =
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">There are screens at the inlets where =
the hoses connect to the back <br class=3D"">
of my washing machine.&nbsp; When I have this problem, I always find a =
<br class=3D"">
bunch of sediment and debris clogging up the screens.&nbsp; It is easy =
to <br class=3D"">
check and easy to fix.&nbsp; Invest ten minutes in checking that before =
<br class=3D"">
you start a major project. These are what I'm talking <br class=3D"">
about: <br class=3D"">
<a =
href=3D"http://www.amazon.com/Danco-80070-Washers-Screen-Black/dp/B000KKUL=
R2/ref=3Dsr_1_11" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">www.amazon.com/Danco-80070-Washers-Screen-Black/dp/B000KKULR2/r=
ef=3Dsr_1_11</a><br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
-Steve<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
At 09:01 PM 7/30/2019, Mark J Bradakis via Shop-talk wrote:<br class=3D"">=

<br class=3D"">
&gt;And then, this project has got me thinking.&nbsp; It might be my cue =
to <br class=3D"">
&gt;buy a roll of PEX, a cutter and a crimper and start using it to fix =
<br class=3D"">
&gt;this problem and the next one on my list, the washing machine.&nbsp; =
At <br class=3D"">
&gt;the moment when you select a hot water wash, the machine fills up at =
<br class=3D"">
&gt;a rate of about a gallon a day.&nbsp; Is it just the fill hose being =
<br class=3D"">
&gt;clogged, or the valve, or the pipes feeding it?&nbsp; Fun fun =
fun!<br class=3D"">
&gt;<br class=3D"">
&gt;mjb.<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
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