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Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] OT flash drives
From: Peter Murray via Shop-talk <shop-talk@autox.team.net>
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2020 17:17:01 -0400
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If you go with the freezer route, seal the drive in a ziploc bag (you may
need some RTV or other sealant to ensure the bag is sealed around the
cables, as you'll want to run the drive while its cold) so the drive
doesn't get condensate throughout when you pull it out of the freezer. Some
desiccant in the bag would be helpful (could be rice or silica gel).

It also could be further helpful to start with the bagged drive in a warm
oven (not over 125 F) to drive moisture out and into the desiccant,
followed by
a graduated transition to the freezer (or the refrigerator, if sufficient).
Don't just throw it directly from the oven into the freezer!

The cloud is handy, but don't forget to back it up. I use OneDrive (as part
of my Office 365 account), and use sync software on my NAS to sync
the OneDrive. The NAS then backs up to BackBlaze B2 buckets.

-Peter

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 9:31 AM old dirtbeard via Shop-talk <
shop-talk@autox.team.net> wrote:

> Hi Tim,
>
> I think you got some good advice on what to try to retrieve the data, and
> your last sentence is the solution:
>
>               Next year we will be storing everything in the cloud so I
> won't have to deal with this PITA process.
>
> I would sign-up today for Google or O365 and move everything to One Drive
> or Google Drive.
>
> best,
>
> doug
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 5:26 AM Tim . via Shop-talk <
> shop-talk@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> Sending this inquiry to you all since I know there are more than a few IT
>> guys in this group.....
>>
>> I bought three 512GB flash drives for archiving here at work. One locked
>> up in each of our offices and one for me to add to files as necessary as
>> files are amended. They have approximately 450GB on them.
>>
>> One of the three failed as soon as I finished filling it. I bought a
>> different brand and made a replacement copy for the safe in our Madison
>> office. A second, the same brand as the first one that failed is locked up
>> in our MKE office and will also be replaced now because the third one (the
>> one that has amended archived files) is also failing. I am having a hard
>> time retrieving the amended files before this drive takes a final crap on
>> me. It took over 15 hours to pull one 87MB file from the dying drive. I
>> can't even attempt to pull more than one file at a time. Not that this
>> should matter, but the files are mixed word, pdf, saved outlook emails and
>> miscellaneous audio or video files and possibly other items.
>>
>> What I am wondering/hoping is that someone might know of a solution to
>> this nearly impossible retrieval process. Or am I just screwed here?
>>
>> Next year we will be storing everything in the cloud so I won't have to
>> deal with this PITA process.
>>
>> Thanks
>> tim
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<div dir=3D"ltr">If you go with the freezer route, seal the drive in a zipl=
oc bag (you may need some RTV or other sealant to ensure the bag is sealed =
around the<div>cables, as you&#39;ll want to run the drive while its cold) =
so the drive doesn&#39;t get condensate throughout when you pull it out of =
the freezer. Some</div><div>desiccant=C2=A0in the bag would be helpful (cou=
ld be rice or silica gel).</div><div><br><div>It also could be further help=
ful to start with the bagged drive in a warm oven (not over 125 F) to drive=
 moisture out and into the desiccant, followed by=C2=A0</div><div>a graduat=
ed transition to the freezer (or the refrigerator, if sufficient). Don&#39;=
t just throw it directly from the oven into the freezer!</div><div><br></di=
v><div>The cloud is handy, but don&#39;t forget to back it up. I use OneDri=
ve (as part of my Office 365 account), and use sync software on my NAS to s=
ync</div><div>the OneDrive. The NAS then backs up to BackBlaze B2 buckets.<=
/div><div><br></div><div><div>-Peter</div></div></div></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Mar 12, 2020=
 at 9:31 AM old dirtbeard via Shop-talk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:shop-talk@aut=
ox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">shop-talk@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><=
/div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bo=
rder-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi =
Tim,<div><br></div><div>I think you got some good advice on what to try to =
retrieve the data, and your last sentence is the solution:</div><div><div s=
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=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Next year we will be storing everything in the cloud s=
o I won&#39;t have to deal with this PITA process.=C2=A0=C2=A0<br></div><di=
v style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rg=
b(0,0,0)"><br></div></div><div>I would sign-up today for Google or O365 and=
 move everything to One Drive or Google Drive.</div><div><br></div><div>bes=
t,</div><div><br></div><div>doug</div></div></div><div style=3D"border-bott=
om-left-radius:1px;border-bottom-right-radius:1px;padding:0px;width:auto;ba=
ckground:rgb(242,242,242);margin:0px"></div></div></div><br></div></div><br=
><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, M=
ar 12, 2020 at 5:26 AM Tim . via Shop-talk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:shop-talk@=
autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">shop-talk@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<b=
r></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">




<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
Sending this inquiry to you all since I know there are more than a few IT g=
uys in this group.....</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
I bought three 512GB flash drives for archiving here at work. One locked up=
 in each of our offices and one for me to add to files as necessary as file=
s are amended. They have approximately 450GB on them.</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
One of the three failed as soon as I finished filling it. I bought a differ=
ent brand and made a replacement copy for the safe in our Madison office. A=
 second, the same brand as the first one that failed is locked up in our MK=
E office and will also be replaced
 now because the third one (the one that has amended archived files) is als=
o failing. I am having a hard time retrieving the amended files before this=
 drive takes a final crap on me. It took over 15 hours to pull one 87MB fil=
e from the dying drive. I can&#39;t
 even attempt to pull more than one file at a time. Not that this should ma=
tter, but the files are mixed word, pdf, saved outlook emails and miscellan=
eous audio or video files and possibly other items.=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
What I am wondering/hoping is that someone might know of a solution to this=
 nearly impossible retrieval process. Or am I just screwed here?=C2=A0</div=
>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
Next year we will be storing everything in the cloud so I won&#39;t have to=
 deal with this PITA process.=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
Thanks</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
tim</div>
</div>

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