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Re: [Shop-talk] LP Generator supply

To: Thomas Coradeschi <tjcora@icloud.com>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] LP Generator supply
From: Jim Stone <1789alpine@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2021 15:19:00 -0400
Cc: Shop Talk <Shop-talk@autox.team.net>
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Thanks.  The generator is currently sitting in a screened-in porch and, =
as long as it is reasonably dry in there during the storm, I wiI run it =
there off of the tanks at first and connect it to the house supply once =
the rain stops.  I think our hatches are sufficiently battened down.  It =
is helpful that this will hit during daylight hours.  And, some really =
tall, unhealthy trees have already been removed from our house and the =
two adjacent properties, which is certainly good. =20

I assume I will know a heck of a lot more in 24 hours or so!

> On Aug 21, 2021, at 3:04 PM, Thomas Coradeschi <tjcora@icloud.com> =
wrote:
>=20
> Jim: You should be good to go. Time=E2=80=99s a wastin=E2=80=99!
>=20
> Tom Coradeschi
> tjcora@icloud.com
>=20
>> On Aug 21, 2021, at 2:08 PM, Jim Stone <1789alpine@gmail.com> wrote:
>>=20
>> =EF=BB=BFI am on Eastern Long Island, directly in one of the =
projected paths of Hurricane Henri.  We are being told to plan for 7-10 =
days without power, although FWIW we were only powerless for 4 days =
following Sandy.  Shortly after Sandy I purchased an LP Generator =
(https://www.jbtools.com/buffalo-tools-gen4000lp-4000-watt-propane-generat=
or/?wi=3Doff&gclid=3DCjwKCAjwyIKJBhBPEiwAu7zll1U54VH4euJneVO0jmOzjdgwy6-t0=
MUdEtaEHYXf_7W0sQxKo54TphoC__4QAvD_BwE =
<https://www.jbtools.com/buffalo-tools-gen4000lp-4000-watt-propane-generat=
or/?wi=3Doff&gclid=3DCjwKCAjwyIKJBhBPEiwAu7zll1U54VH4euJneVO0jmOzjdgwy6-t0=
MUdEtaEHYXf_7W0sQxKo54TphoC__4QAvD_BwE>) which, of course, I have never =
needed, although I do run it periodically to be safe.  It is designed to =
run off of LP tanks and comes with a standard regulator.  A little =
Googling shows the following specs for the regulator:
>>=20
>> Low Pressure Regulator
>> Inlet Pressure:               25-250PSIG
>> Outlet Pressure:            280mmH2O=3D (11"W.C.)
>> Flow Capacity(MAX):    119000(BTU/hr)
>>=20
>> We use Propane for DHW and heat and have a 500 gallon in-ground tank. =
  I had an outside gas line stubbed out when the house was remodeled, =
just in case I ever needed it and I would like to be able to connect the =
generator directly to the house supply and avoid having to depend on the =
portable tanks.  The house supply is regulated and, as an example, here =
are the specs for the water heater:
>>=20
>> Max Inlet Gas Pressure:    13.0 =E2=80=9CW.C.
>> Min Inlet Gas Pressure:     8.0 =E2=80=9CW.C.
>> Recovery Rating:               206/Gallons/HR
>> Max Working Pressure:     150psi
>> Max Output:                       180,000 BTU/HR
>> Max Input:                          11,000 BTU/HR
>> Manifold Pressure:             3.9 =E2=80=9CW.C. (For Max Input)
>>=20
>> Am I missing anything, or should I be able to hook the generator =
directly to the house supply without the regulator?  For the record, I =
tried it once with the regulator attached and it barely ran and didn=E2=80=
=99t put out any appreciable power.  I always meant to research this =
before I needed it, but like many of us, never got around to it until =
now.
>>=20
>> Thanks,
>> Jim
>>=20
>>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">Thanks. &nbsp;The generator is currently sitting in a =
screened-in porch and, as long as it is reasonably&nbsp;dry&nbsp;in =
there during the storm, I wiI run it there off of the tanks at first and =
connect it to the house supply once the rain stops. &nbsp;I think our =
hatches are sufficiently battened down. &nbsp;It is helpful that this =
will hit during daylight hours. &nbsp;And, some really tall, unhealthy =
trees have already been removed from our house and the two adjacent =
properties, which is certainly good. &nbsp;<div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I assume I will know a heck of a lot =
more in 24 hours or so!<br class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Aug 21, 2021, at 3:04 PM, =
Thomas Coradeschi &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tjcora@icloud.com"; =
class=3D"">tjcora@icloud.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta =
http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8" =
class=3D""><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">Jim: You should be good to go. =
Time=E2=80=99s a wastin=E2=80=99!<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, =
255, 0);" class=3D"">Tom Coradeschi</span><div class=3D""><span =
dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);" =
class=3D""><a href=3D"mailto:tjcora@icloud.com"; =
class=3D"">tjcora@icloud.com</a></span></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">On Aug =
21, 2021, at 2:08 PM, Jim Stone &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:1789alpine@gmail.com"; =
class=3D"">1789alpine@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">=EF=BB=BF<meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" =
content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8" class=3D"">I am on Eastern Long =
Island, directly in one of the projected paths of Hurricane Henri. =
&nbsp;We are being told to plan for 7-10 days without power, although =
FWIW we were only powerless for 4 days following Sandy. &nbsp;Shortly =
after Sandy I purchased an LP Generator (<a =
href=3D"https://www.jbtools.com/buffalo-tools-gen4000lp-4000-watt-propane-=
generator/?wi=3Doff&amp;gclid=3DCjwKCAjwyIKJBhBPEiwAu7zll1U54VH4euJneVO0jm=
Ozjdgwy6-t0MUdEtaEHYXf_7W0sQxKo54TphoC__4QAvD_BwE" =
class=3D"">https://www.jbtools.com/buffalo-tools-gen4000lp-4000-watt-propa=
ne-generator/?wi=3Doff&amp;gclid=3DCjwKCAjwyIKJBhBPEiwAu7zll1U54VH4euJneVO=
0jmOzjdgwy6-t0MUdEtaEHYXf_7W0sQxKo54TphoC__4QAvD_BwE</a>) which, of =
course, I have never needed, although I do run it periodically to be =
safe. &nbsp;It is designed to run off of LP tanks and comes with a =
standard regulator. &nbsp;A little Googling shows the following specs =
for the regulator:<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><ul=
 class=3D"MailOutline"><li class=3D"">Low Pressure Regulator</li><li =
class=3D"">Inlet Pressure: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; 25-250PSIG</li><li class=3D"">Outlet Pressure: &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;280mmH2O=3D (11"W.C.)</li><li class=3D"">Flow =
Capacity(MAX): &nbsp; &nbsp;119000(BTU/hr)</li></ul><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div></div><div class=3D"">We use Propane for DHW and heat =
and have a 500 gallon in-ground tank. &nbsp; I had an outside gas line =
stubbed out when the house was remodeled, just in case I ever needed it =
and I would like to be able to connect the generator directly to the =
house supply and avoid having to depend on the portable tanks. &nbsp;The =
house supply is regulated and, as an example, here are the specs for the =
water heater:</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D""><ul class=3D"MailOutline"><li class=3D"">Max Inlet Gas =
Pressure: &nbsp; &nbsp;13.0 =E2=80=9CW.C.</li><li class=3D"">Min Inlet =
Gas Pressure: &nbsp; &nbsp; 8.0 =E2=80=9CW.C.</li><li class=3D"">Recovery =
Rating: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
206/Gallons/HR</li><li class=3D"">Max Working Pressure: &nbsp; &nbsp; =
150psi</li><li class=3D"">Max Output: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 180,000 BTU/HR</li><li =
class=3D"">Max Input: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;11,000 BTU/HR</li><li =
class=3D"">Manifold Pressure: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
3.9 =E2=80=9CW.C. (For Max Input)</li></ul><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Am I missing anything, or should I be =
able to hook the generator directly to the house supply without the =
regulator? &nbsp;For the record, I tried it once with the regulator =
attached and it barely ran and didn=E2=80=99t put out any appreciable =
power. &nbsp;I always meant to research this before I needed it, but =
like many of us, never got around to it until now.</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Thanks,</div><div =
class=3D"">Jim</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div></div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><span =
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