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Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2022 22:48:24 -0700
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re: "How many years can a set of tires go ..."

Subject to debate, and how the tires are maintained. Some--often people 
who make and sell tires--insist six years is the limit, regardless of 
mileage, and if the tires are constantly exposed to extreme weather and 
mileage that's not unreasonable. OTOH, if the tires are kept in a garage 
not subject to temperature extremes and are only used 'around town' you 
can usually go more, 7 or 8 years wouldn't be too risky. At any rate, 
going beyond 10 years is pushing your luck.

BUT ... for an SUV I'd be more cautious and probably observe the 6-year 
'rule.' SUVs and other trucks are top heavy and a catastrophic 
failure--i.e. a blowout--esp. on a front tire can cause the vehicle to 
roll over. Ford just got slapped with a $1B+ liability charge for an old 
truck that had a blowout, rolled, and the cab squashed the elderly 
occupants. A couple decades ago Ford got slammed when some incorrect, 
improperly inflated Firestone tires--Ford and Firestone go WAY 
back--caused some fatal rollover accidents with some Explorers.

My rule of thumb: If I find myself worrying about my tires, it's time 
for new. Your tires are only three years (+/-) old and, unless they're 
showing 'checking'--cracking--or other damage they should be good for at 
least a couple more years. Check your tire pressures regularly (at least 
once a month).



On 8/28/2022 9:19 PM, Shannah Miller wrote:
> Thank you, Ian, for commenting to the group.  I will
> need tires at some point, and that's good to know.
>
> That said, my car is the spare car of the family, and
> has had the same tires since 2019.  How many years
> can a set of tires go if they are just mostly used to
> putt around town?  (My car has not quite 10,000 miles
> on it.)
>
> Thanks,
> Shannah
>
> On Sun, Aug 28, 2022 at 7:20 PM Ian McFetridge 
> <shop-talk2@mcfetridge.org> wrote:
>
>     I have had the Michelin Defender LTX on my pickup since fall 2020
>     and they are wearing well, ride smooth and quiet.  Iâ??ve used
>     Michelins on trucks since I worked in the tire dept at Samâ??s in
>     college.  They always took the least amount of weights to balance
>     and had the least returns for issues or to rebalance.  The manager
>     at Costco said that is all still true when I bought the last set. 
>     YMMV :)
>
>     Best
>     Ian
>
>     On Sun, Aug 28, 2022 at 8:03 PM john niolon <jniolon@att.net> wrote:
>
>         shop content... I drive my suburban into my shop
>         time for tires... always used Michelin for the last 20 years
>         with good service... Vehicle is 2008 Suburban 1500 with 95%
>         highway or town ...no off road
>         occasional towing my hobby truck to shows on 20' car hauler
>         (once or twice a year with load equalizing hitch...)  Looking
>         at reviews on my first choice Michelin Defender LTX/MS
>         275/55-20. The reviews talk a lot about road noise and rough
>         ride..... My current Michelin Defenders  (bought in Jan 2016
>         ride smooth and wear well.. 76K miles on them so far)
>         I just turned 75 and this might be my last set of tires
>         Grinning Face with Smiling Eyes � so I'm looking for your
>         thoughts on Michelin or others afa mileage, ride, noise etc.
>         thanks
>         john
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    re: "How many years can a set of tires go ..."<br>
    <br>
    Subject to debate, and how the tires are maintained. Some--often
    people who make and sell tires--insist six years is the limit,
    regardless of mileage, and if the tires are constantly exposed to
    extreme weather and mileage that's not unreasonable. OTOH, if the
    tires are kept in a garage not subject to temperature extremes and
    are only used 'around town' you can usually go more, 7 or 8 years
    wouldn't be too risky. At any rate, going beyond 10 years is pushing
    your luck.<br>
    <br>
    BUT ... for an SUV I'd be more cautious and probably observe the
    6-year 'rule.' SUVs and other trucks are top heavy and a
    catastrophic failure--i.e. a blowout--esp. on a front tire can cause
    the vehicle to roll over. Ford just got slapped with a $1B+
    liability charge for an old truck that had a blowout, rolled, and
    the cab squashed the elderly occupants. A couple decades ago Ford
    got slammed when some incorrect, improperly inflated Firestone
    tires--Ford and Firestone go WAY back--caused some fatal rollover
    accidents with some Explorers.<br>
    <br>
    My rule of thumb: If I find myself worrying about my tires, it's
    time for new. Your tires are only three years (+/-) old and, unless
    they're showing 'checking'--cracking--or other damage they should be
    good for at least a couple more years. Check your tire pressures
    regularly (at least once a month).<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/28/2022 9:19 PM, Shannah Miller
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
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cite="mid:CAAy7z=1ksL69-yrAVYHgbNfB78cZKCeCV_kpPrjU+ujezRcEow@mail.gmail.com">
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        <div>Thank you, Ian, for commenting to the group.  I will</div>
        <div>need tires at some point, and that's good to know.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>That said, my car is the spare car of the family, and</div>
        <div>has had the same tires since 2019.  How many years</div>
        <div>can a set of tires go if they are just mostly used to</div>
        <div>putt around town?  (My car has not quite 10,000 miles</div>
        <div>on it.)<br>
        </div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Thanks,</div>
        <div>Shannah<br>
        </div>
      </div>
      <br>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Aug 28, 2022 at 7:20
          PM Ian McFetridge &lt;<a
            href="mailto:shop-talk2@mcfetridge.org";
            moz-do-not-send="true" 
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">shop-talk2@mcfetridge.org</a>&gt;
          wrote:<br>
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        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
          0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
          <div dir="auto">I have had the Michelin Defender LTX on my
            pickup since fall 2020 and they are wearing well, ride
            smooth and quiet.  Iâ??ve used Michelins on trucks since I
            worked in the tire dept at Samâ??s in college.  They always
            took the least amount of weights to balance and had the
            least returns for issues or to rebalance.  The manager at
            Costco said that is all still true when I bought the last
            set.  YMMV :)</div>
          <div dir="auto"><br>
          </div>
          <div dir="auto">Best </div>
          <div dir="auto">Ian</div>
          <div><br>
            <div class="gmail_quote">
              <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Aug 28, 2022 at
                8:03 PM john niolon &lt;<a href="mailto:jniolon@att.net";
                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                  class="moz-txt-link-freetext">jniolon@att.net</a>&gt;
                wrote:<br>
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                0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
                rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                <div>
                  <div><font style="font-family:&quot;Segoe
                      UI&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,0)" face="Segoe UI">shop
                      content... I drive my suburban into my shop</font></div>
                  <div> </div>
                  <div><font style="font-family:&quot;Segoe
                      UI&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,0)" face="Segoe UI">time
                      for tires... always used Michelin for the last 20
                      years with good service... Vehicle is 2008
                      Suburban 1500 with 95% highway or town ...no off
                      road</font></div>
                  <div><font style="font-family:&quot;Segoe
                      UI&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,0)" face="Segoe UI">occasional
                      towing my hobby truck to shows on 20' car hauler
                      (once or twice a year with load equalizing
                      hitch...)  Looking at reviews on my first choice
                      Michelin Defender LTX/MS</font></div>
                  <div><font style="font-family:&quot;Segoe
                      UI&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,0)" face="Segoe UI">275/55-20.  
                      The reviews talk a lot about road noise and rough
                      ride..... My current Michelin Defenders  (bought
                      in Jan 2016 ride smooth and wear well.. 76K miles
                      on them so far)</font></div>
                  <div> </div>
                  <div><font style="font-family:&quot;Segoe
                      UI&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,0)" face="Segoe UI">I just
                      turned 75 and this might be my last set of tires  <img
                        alt="Grinning Face with Smiling Eyes"
                        src="cid:part1.BCNdxLKL.UPuEd01i@comcast.net"
                        style="width: 24px; max-width: 100%;
                        background-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);
                        border-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color:
                        rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="" align="absMiddle"> �
                      so I'm looking for your thoughts on Michelin or
                      others afa mileage, ride, noise etc.</font></div>
                  <div> </div>
                  <div><font style="font-family:&quot;Segoe
                      UI&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,0)" face="Segoe 
UI">thanks</font></div>
                  <div><font style="font-family:&quot;Segoe
                      UI&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,0)" face="Segoe 
UI">john</font></div>
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