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Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 10:25:13 -0700
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Though I'm an owner of a TR8, my heart belongs to useguys!  Seeing this
post on the TR 7/8 list reminds me just how "special" the Spridget list
is.

Sorry for sending the hole darn message but I didn't know how to cut
most of  it out.

Herb
Keep the sticky side down!
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Subject: Request wasTR Drivers Club - TR Register was National Tartan
  Day
To: <tr8@mercury.lcs.mit.edu>

<< Maybe the TR Drivers club got as sick of hearing about National Tartan Day 
as I
am!
Stu>>
I would like to add to this as a gentle reminder for those on the list to 
please stay on topic.  If you want to trade jokes, please do so with those you 
have a relationship with.  The rest of us are only interested in TR7 and 8 
related subjects.  Remember the flame wars which resulted from the "12 days of 
Christmas" thread a few years ago.  Let's not go there again.  And please, if 
you have a response that's only of interest to one individual, such as thanking 
them for a reply, please send it just to them, not the entire list.  These 
things clutter up our already too full mailboxes.  
Regards,
Fred Smith
Orinda, CA 
80 TR8

Richard Connew wrote:

> Bill,
> You are almost correct - the full story is that the TR Drivers Club was
> formed because the TR Register wouldn't allow 7 & 8 owners to join, not just
> bad blood, although that was certainly the case later - they wouldn't allow
> TR4's for a while either because God forbid they had wind up windows. The TR
> Register Germany didn't 1990 / still doesn't allow 7's & 8's ? hence the
> formation of the TR7 Club in Germany.
>
> Please understand my comments are because of my own personal feelings;
> mainly about the TR Register UK management (not individuals - some of whom
> are very good friends of mine) and two particular local groups. They are
> nothing to do with the TR Drivers Club's feelings what ever they may be.
> Perhaps with time the two clubs could be friends but as the main drive seems
> to be to gain more members for commercial reasons It will take some time
> before that's likely. Bottom line I happen to love the car! for being what
> it is, not another member and more money in the club coffers.
>
> In the past information being copied / borrowed has caused problems between
> the two clubs not to mention including large errors in it's reproduction; so
> by putting it on the Internet I have made it freely available to any TR8
> enthusiast what ever club they belong to. I have spent and will spend a
> considerable amount of time on researching the true TR8 history and as such
> do not wish to see miscopied / misrepresented information - there is more
> than enough of that already - nor do I wish to see it being used to score
> points either.
> When I have completed the real TR8 history it will be freely available on
> the web for all to see.
> Enough said ?
>
> Regards
>
> Richard@connew.com
> www.connew.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Bsweeting@aol.com>
> To: <Richard@connew.com>; <tr8@mercury.lcs.mit.edu>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 3:47 PM
> Subject: Re: tr8-digest V1 #2179
>
> No Archive
>
> I have heard in the PAST  that their was bad blood between the TR Register
> and TR Drivers Club.   I had heard that the Drivers Club was formed for TR7
> and TR8's because of the outcast feeling of 7 and 8 owners that were in the
> TR Register.   Now, it appears to me, that the rivalry is more of a business
> money making greed  with each club having strict copyright policies (makes
> me
> chuckle) .  Heaven forbid some technical info appears in the others
> newsletter.    As old members die off and new people take over important
> positions in the clubs  these new people are oblivious to this old bickering
> and walls and attitudes are changing for the better.
>
> The TR8 Car Club has had reciprocal (complementary) newsletter swapping for
> MANY years with BOTH these Fine British Clubs and they are BOTH Very TR8
> Friendly NOW!!!!   Hopefully we are all here to share info about our cars
> and
> once politics take over and money making is the priority the hobby suffers!
> Anyone can copy anything from our newsletters anytime they want!
> The TR8 Clubs Goal is to share info about TR8s....  PERIOD!
>
> I can remember back in mid 80's when first going to Triumph shows finding
> out
> that we (TR8 Owners) were the black sheep of the family.   We were not real
> Triumphs because we didn't need to carry a tool box and we could arrive at a
> car show with top up and A/C and stereo playing and look like we were
> enjoying the nice ride.   I can even remember when a TR8 won BEST OF SHOW at
> a VTR National, Talk about a Heresy !!   What I have observed, over the
> years,  is more and more TR3, 4 & 6  owners who got a chance to drive one of
> our cars  ended up BUYING one because they liked the way it drove so
> much!!!!
>
> I haven't sensed the "Old Black Sheep of the family" for a good many years
> and am glad that, here in America, it has faded into the history books and
> we
> can joke about it with new owners of TR8s and TR7s and tell them about the
> Good Old Days when we were outcasts and knew the secret that TR7s and TR8s
> were one of the finest rides made by Triumph!!!!
>
> So I say, the new blood in BOTH these clubs need our help and encouragement
> and ACKNOWLEGDEMENT  that they are on the right track and doing a great job
> of writing about TR7s and TR8s!!!!!!
> Soapbox mode off
> No Archive
>
> > rom: "Richard Connew" <Richard@connew.com>
> >  Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 17:40:39 +0100
> >  Subject: Unfriendly TR Clubs
> >
> >  John,
> >         Unfortunatly what has gone before has not been TR8 friendly - I
> >  personnally have attended a number of local meetings and have been pushed
> >  out immeadiatly I said I owned an 8; not to mention the nasty attitude
> from
> >  senior Register committee members to the TR Drivers Club - who do
> incidently
> >  support 7's & 8's and have a great deal of the history of these cars.
> >  While I appreciate this may have little or nothing to do with you I do
> not
> >  wish now or at any time in the future to assist the register with
> research
> >  on these cars.
> >  Feel free to look at my information but do not under any circumstances
> >  publish any of it.
> >  Nothing against you personnally and happy to assist you personnally.
> >  Many Thanks
> >
> >  Richard@connew.com

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