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Re: Tuning the Weber

To: rbc43@home.com, spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Tuning the Weber
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 14:52:22 EST
Once you go below 34mm chokes on a 45 to get the bottom end throttle response 
you want you need to be thinking about a 40 DCOE and not the 45.

If the car runs really well on the 32mm chokes it will certainly produce less 
rpm at the top end than with the 34mm chokes.  

Personally I always think down choking a DCOE to improve bottom end response 
means sacrificing power for driving flexibility and cures symptons and not 
the problem.  If you want cure the problem WITHOUT SACRIFICING POWER and 
improve the bottom end and top end throttle response and maybe gain some 
power you need the aluminium alloy full radius rams from ITG in whatever 
length you prefer (I doubt the 266 cam is that bothered what length it sees). 
 All the standard steel rams are considerably inferior to the ITG items.

I've assumed you have a decent inlet manifold and not something from Pierce 
or Canon because AFAIK neither has good product for the DCOE and a poor 
design will reduce air flow and cause fuel drop out(of the air).



Nick 

In a message dated 23/11/01 07:26:11 Pacific Standard Time, rbc43@home.com 
writes:


> I have mostly completed the tuning of the 45COE Weber on my Bugeye. I have a
> stock 1275 lower end, an aluminum head, a 266 cam, Isky valve springs, a LCB
> header, 1-3/4 pipe to a Cherry bomb 22" long. I started with 34 chokes, 3.5
> aux venturis, F2 emulsion tubes, 50F9 idle jets 50 pump jets 155 main jets 
> and
> 170 air jets. After I found and repaired the cracked fuel line near the 
> tank,
> we were ready to work on the Weber. I drove up to Russ's house at 9:00 AM 
> on a
> beautiful fall day. Russ races a GT4 Toyota and uses Webers on his race car,
> so he has some understanding of them. I used some settings I got from Rick,
> who has a similar engine and settings from listers on this net. We set the
> float levels at 4.5 and 15 mm with some tools Russ had made. they were 
> pretty
> far off. We set the timing, and the idle screws and we were ready to start. 
> We
> changed one setting at a time,( it's amazing what you have time for if you 
> are
> retired). We would make the change, go out to the road and make a run to 
> test
> the change. Russ drove each time. We would come back and evaluate the 
> change.
> We made about 10 runs including lunch. Russ had a lot of parts, so this
> reduced the cost of tuning.  After about three hours of this, these were the
> results: 34 chokes, 3.5 aux,f2 emulsion, 50 F9 idle 45 pump jets, 160 mains,
> and 160 air. It would not take full throttle with out choking, you had to 
> add
> throttle gradually. Our plan was to have me order some parts 32, 30 chokes 
> and
> 40 pump jets and 160 main jets. One thing that bothered us was some times 
> the
> tack would work, and some time it would not. We checked all kinds of things
> and couldn't come up with the solution. So I installed an Ignitor system on
> another 25D dizzy and put it in. the problem was solved! When I got the 
> parts,
> I installed the 32 chokes. It was like a brand new car!! It loved those
> chokes!. I hope to evaluate the 40 pump jets soon. And we have to go though
> the mains and airs again.
> It was nice to have the time to do this in a very methodical  way. I now 
> have
> a Bugeye that drives much better than before. Now I can plan the changes to
> the engine (shaved head, 1.5 rocker arms, 40 over pistons, and balanced and
> lighten rods and crank) and do it all over again.
> Now to tune into Flounder Vision!
> 
> Roger Cotting
> 59 Bugeye Yellow Beauty
> 60 Bugeye Ironhead
> 60 Bugeye project car
> 74 Midget for son
> 80 TR 8



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