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Re: 1500 switches on '72 column?

To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>, <davriker@digitalpath.net>
Subject: Re: 1500 switches on '72 column?
From: "Chris King" <cbking@alum.rpi.edu>
Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 17:49:58 -0700
Dave,
 
Thanks for the insight. I'm not worried about the wiring issues at all,
since what's on the car now is all out of a '79 - column, switches,
steering wheel, wiring harness, etc. But the column is bent slightly and
the flange is broken, so I have a bare column (no switches) from a '72
in good condition. 
 
What I undrstand is that I can get the turn signal and wiper switches to
fit the column with a little grinding. Aside from the wiring issues you
mentioned (which aren't a problem with the '79 harness in the car), the
ignition switch assembly should bolt right up as well, correct? Lastly,
it's the switches that determine which steering wheel I use, i.e. '79
switches = '79 wheel (which is good, this is what's in the car now). I'm
familiar with the late cancelling cam. I shouldn't have a problem with
the splines, correct?
 
Thanks again,
 
-=Chris

<-----Original Message----->

                 From: David Riker
Sent: 5/9/2006 11:53:22 PM
To: spritenut@comcast.net;cbking@alum.rpi.edu
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: 1500 switches on '72 column? 

I've done it on a '74, here are the "challenges". 

1. Ignition switch won't work. The 74-79 ignition switch wiring is low 
amperage, skimpy wires. They can't handle the load. You will need to 
retain the earlier switch. 
2. the aluminum cap at the top of the steering column tube is larger on
the 
70-77. You will have to use a die grinder & a file to reduce the size of
the cap so that the turn signal switch will fit over it. 
3. The plugs for the wiper switch and turn signal switch are different 
sizes, although the wiring colors are the same. I made a jumper with
some 
old wiring harnesses that adapted the two together, but you could cut & 
splice the earlier plug onto the later switches. 
4. The 78/79 steering wheel must be used, because there is a tab on it
that 
spins a cam on the late style turn signal switch to cancel the turn
signals. 
With out that tab, your signals won't cancel. 

It is two separate switches, but the turn signal switch and bracket
clamp to 
the column, and then the wiper switch gets mounted to the turn signal
switch 
bracket. The switches are more readily available, and are less expensive
than the earlier ones. 

I am very happy with my conversion, as the late style 78/79 turn switch 
includes the horn function, and a lane change function not available on
the 
70-77 years, and only cancel the signals on the final turn of the wheel.
The wiper switch has a single pass feature, and doesn't have the dummy 
overdrive function. 

It is almost as easy to swap the entire steering column as it is to
modify 
the original one. 
David Riker 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank Clarici" 
To: "Chris King" 
Cc: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 6:46 PM 
Subject: Re: 1500 switches on '72 column? 


> Chris King wrote: 
> 
> > Hey guys, 
> > 
> > Is there any reason I couldn't swap my '79 column switches and
ignition 
> > switch onto a column from a '72 Midget? I know the steering wheels
are 
> > different - does the turn signal cancel work the same way? 
> 
> Chris 
> 
> The switches are different too. I believe the RB Midgets used a one 
> piece signal/wiper switch. Yeah, 2 stalks but 1 unit. 
> And they plug in differently. 
> 
> But I am sure you can make the 72 units work. The columns are
basically 
> the same as is the plastic cowl. 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Frank Clarici 
> Toms River, NJ 


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