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That's the main advantage of using the long bolt method. It works with
or without the weight of the engine because the forces are exerted only
between the A-arm and the spring pan. It is also a lot safer. I even use
my pneumatic 3/8 " ratchet to make things go faster. The tool I designed
uses 1/2 " threaded connectors so there is more bearing surface than
with a regular bolt head.
Bob
On 7/6/2015 7:43 PM, bmwwxman . via Spridgets wrote:
> Dean & Jeff.... I can't do that. With no engine or tranny it
> doesn't weigh enough. The jack lifts the whole corner of the car off
> the jack stands.
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 6:38 PM, Jeff via Spridgets
>
> Dean, that is exactly my method too.
>
>
> On 7/6/2015 6:28 PM, Dean Swanson via Spridgets wrote:
>>
>> I guess I?ve been doing it wrong ? I?ve always put everything
>> together except the spring and pan, then inserted the spring thru
>> the hole in the a-arm, then put the pan on a floor jack and
>> jacked/lifted the pan/compressed the spring into place?
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> *From:*Spridgets [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] *On
>> Behalf Of *Bob Spruck via Spridgets
>> *Sent:* Monday, July 06, 2015 4:05 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [Spridgets] Do you have one laying around?
>>
>> I have them, left and right. Let me know if and which you want me
>> to send.
>>
>> Photo of my spring compression tool attached.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> On 7/6/2015 3:38 PM, bmwwxman . via Spridgets wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks to all who responded. I should have said there is no
>>> engine or tranny in the tub. I'm trying to make a roller out of
>>> it. I'm going to try the long bolt strategy that several of you
>>> mentioned.
>>>
>>> As to the brake hose lock plate, Contact me off list if you have
>>> one you can part with.
>>>
>>> Cheers!!
>>> Jim
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 5, 2015 at 7:28 PM, bmwwxman . <bmwwxman@gmail.com
>>>
>>> Working on the Midget today I found I have somehow misplaced a
>>> part that came off it when I took it apart 2 years ago. My
>>> Haynes manual identifies it as a "brake hose lock plate" for the
>>> left front (port side) disk brake caliper. The usual suspects do
>>> not list it.
>>>
>>> If you have one laying around I'll gladly purchase it. I'd also
>>> accept ideas on how to proceed without it if that becomes
>>> necessary. It appears that all it does is support the hydraulic
>>> brake line leading to the caliper.
>>>
>>> Also, if any of you geniuses (geniusi?) out there have a special
>>> trick for a one man installation of the front springs, fulcrum
>>> pin and trunion bolt? When we did the Holy Sprite I used my
>>> considerable bulk as the necessary weight to compress the spring
>>> while Ryan Kubanoff put in the trunion bolt. There has to be a
>>> one person way to do this...
>>>
>>> With some luck I'll have the beast on its wheels by the end of
>>> the coming week or early next week. Then the body sanding and
>>> Taco Bell wrappers can commence!
>>>
>>> I'm shooting for an OSHIT in Dodge City next spring.
>>> --
>>>
>>> Cheers!!
>>> Jim Johnson
>>> Dodge City Trail of Fame <http://www.DodgeCityTrailofFame.org>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Cheers!!
>>> Jim Johnson
>>> High Plains Youth Hockey <http://www.highplainsyouthhockey.org>
>>> Dodge City Trail of Fame <http://www.DodgeCityTrailofFame.org>
>>> Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology
>>> <http://www.EJSSM.org>
>>>
>>> _"_*_Tact is the ability to tell someone to go to hell in such a
>>> way that they look forward to the trip."_*
>>>
>>> *Winston Churchill*
>>>
>>>
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<font size="+1"><font face="Arial">That's the main advantage of
using the long bolt method. It works with or without the weight
of the engine because the forces are exerted only between the
A-arm and the spring pan. It is also a lot safer. I even use my
pneumatic 3/8 " ratchet to make things go faster. The tool I
designed uses 1/2 " threaded connectors so there is more bearing
surface than with a regular bolt head.<br>
<br>
Bob<br>
</font></font><br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/6/2015 7:43 PM, bmwwxman . via
Spridgets wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAJgjnuoch-xDVpV7Bb3wd3Su99NNa8A8sAotPeA8NiUMgTMEHg@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">Dean & Jeff.... I can't do that. With no
engine or tranny it doesn't weigh enough. The jack lifts the
whole corner of the car off the jack stands.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Cheers!!<br>
Jim</div>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 6:38 PM, Jeff
via Spridgets <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net";
target="_blank">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Dean, that is exactly
my method too.
<div>
<div class="h5"><br>
<br>
<div>On 7/6/2015 6:28 PM, Dean Swanson via Spridgets
wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" size="2"
face="Arial"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">I
guess I?ve been doing it wrong ? I?ve always
put everything together except the spring
and pan, then inserted the spring thru the
hole in the a-arm, then put the pan on a
floor jack and jacked/lifted the
pan/compressed the spring into
place?</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" size="2"
face="Arial"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"> </span></font></p>
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face="Arial"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"> </span></font></p>
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face="Arial"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"> </span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font color="black"
size="2" face="Tahoma"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font
color="black" size="2" face="Tahoma"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext">
Spridgets [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net";
target="_blank">mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net</a>]
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">On
Behalf Of </span></b>Bob Spruck via
Spridgets<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b>
Monday, July 06, 2015 4:05 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net";
target="_blank">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>;
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:bmwwxman@gmail.com";
target="_blank">bmwwxman@gmail.com</a><br>
<b><span
style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b>
Re: [Spridgets] Do you have one laying
around?</span></font></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" size="3"
face="Times New Roman"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font
color="black" size="4" face="Arial"><span
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Arial">I
have them, left and right. Let me know if
and which you want me to send.<br>
<br>
Photo of my spring compression tool
attached.<br>
<br>
Bob</span></font></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black"
size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt">On 7/6/2015 3:38
PM, bmwwxman . via Spridgets
wrote:</span></font></p>
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<blockquote
style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"
type="cite">
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black"
size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt">Thanks to all
who responded. I should have said there
is no engine or tranny in the tub. I'm
trying to make a roller out of it. I'm
going to try the long bolt strategy that
several of you mentioned. </span></font></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black"
size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black"
size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt">As to the
brake hose lock plate, Contact me off
list if you have one you can part
with.</span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black"
size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black"
size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt">Cheers!!<br>
Jim</span></font></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black"
size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span></font></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black"
size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt">On Sun, Jul
5, 2015 at 7:28 PM, bmwwxman . <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:bmwwxman@gmail.com";
target="_blank"><a
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:bmwwxman@gmail.com";>bmwwxman@gmail.com</a></a>>
wrote:</span></font></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black"
size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt">Working on
the Midget today I found I have
somehow misplaced a part that came
off it when I took it apart 2 years
ago. My Haynes manual identifies it
as a "brake hose lock plate" for the
left front (port side) disk brake
caliper. The usual suspects do not
list it. </span></font></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black"
size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black"
size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt">If you
have one laying around I'll gladly
purchase it. I'd also accept
ideas on how to proceed without it
if that becomes necessary. It
appears that all it does is
support the hydraulic brake line
leading to the caliper. </span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black"
size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black"
size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt">Also, if
any of you geniuses (geniusi?) out
there have a special trick for a
one man installation of the front
springs, fulcrum pin and trunion
bolt? When we did the Holy Sprite
I used my considerable bulk as the
necessary weight to compress the
spring while Ryan Kubanoff put in
the trunion bolt. There has to be
a one person way to do
this...</span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black"
size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black"
size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt">With some
luck I'll have the beast on its
wheels by the end of the coming
week or early next week. Then the
body sanding and Taco Bell
wrappers can commence!</span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black"
size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black"
size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt">I'm
shooting for an OSHIT in Dodge
City next spring. </span></font><font
color="#888888"><span
style="color:#888888"><br>
<span>-- </span></span></font></p>
<div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font
color="#888888" size="3"
face="Times New Roman"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#888888">Cheers!!<br>
Jim Johnson<br>
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href="http://www.DodgeCityTrailofFame.org";
target="_blank">Dodge City
Trail of Fame </a><br>
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Roman"><span
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target="_blank">High Plains Youth
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