--===============0906875683113667408==
boundary="----=_Part_3486637_1312156570.1460966610724"
------=_Part_3486637_1312156570.1460966610724
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Rick,You said <snip> 'And I've heard that some of the currently available n=
ew master cylinders come with a proviso in their warranty stating that the =
warranty is void if silicone fluid is used.' =C2=A0<snip> perhaps you could=
be more informative and say which new master cylinders have this slippery =
warranty avoiding comment? =C2=A0It would appear to be a very poor quality =
master cylinder that can't use it and I wouldn't like to avoid using such d=
ung forged cr*p.However, if the master cylinders are to be used with an ABS=
system this would be right as silicone viscosity is such that ABS struggle=
s to cope with the restitution phases at 32hz plus.=C2=A0
A master cylinder is a pump, plain and simple. =C2=A0If they are not pumpin=
g they are faulty. =C2=A0If they have been just been re-sealed by one perso=
n there can be a problem in how the seals are located or positioned and if =
it is happening to both master cylinders it would suggest something as dras=
tic as having the main seals the wrong way round! =C2=A0The limiting pressu=
re in the clutch may support this thought. =C2=A0Without more information i=
t is hard to comment.
Guy R Day
=C2=A0=C2=A0
=20
On Monday, 18 April 2016, 2:13, Rick Fisk via Spridgets <spridgets@auto=
x.team.net> wrote:
=20
Hi Bob,
Everyone else must be out driving their cars. =C2=A0Or out in the garage wo=
rking on them. =C2=A0:-)
I would not bother trying to rebuild the master cylinders. =C2=A0Replace th=
em with new components. =C2=A0Much less hassle and a better chance of succe=
ss. =C2=A0You've already replaced the Bugeye stuff with later components so=
you don't have to worry about originality.
That said, I would also use regular brake fluid. =C2=A0I've never cared for=
the silicone stuff. =C2=A0And I've heard that some of the currently availa=
ble new master cylinders come with a proviso in their warranty stating that=
the warranty is void if silicone fluid is used.
Rick
Sent from my keyboard
On Apr 17, 2016, at 4:19 PM, Bob Kitterer via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.te=
am.net> wrote:
OK, I am at my wits end tiring to get the hydraulics to work. =C2=A0So who =
/ where should I go to get the master cylinders rebuilt which may mean rebo=
ring. =C2=A0I have separate masters for the brakes and the clutch, early Sp=
rite MK IV. =C2=A0Also am using silicon brake fluid.
Recently honed and put new seals in both masters, brake and slave cylinders=
and disk calipers. =C2=A0Am getting no fluid movement in the brakes. =C2=
=A0Have fluid in the clutch slave but not enough pressure to move the slave=
cylinder. =C2=A0The clutch slave has Gerard's remote bleed valve an fluid =
moves through this valve with no air.
Bob =C2=A0Kitterer
1960 Austin Healey Sprite=C2=A0(Mk IV in disguise)1966 Austin Healey Sprite=
Mk=C2=A0III (Trevor) - still in boxes2013 Miata
Pay it ForwardThanks Frank
------------------------
spridgets@autox.team.net
Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
chartermi.net
------------------------
spridgets@autox.team.net
Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
tinternet.com
------=_Part_3486637_1312156570.1460966610724
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
<html><head></head><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; f=
ont-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, =
Sans-Serif;font-size:16px"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460963804896_11697=
" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460963804896_11714">Rick,</spa=
n></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460963804896_11697" dir=3D"ltr"><span=
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460963804896_12719">You said <snip> '</span=
><span style=3D"font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial=
, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14=
60963804896_11927">And I've heard that some of the currently available new =
master cylinders come with a proviso in their warranty stating that the war=
ranty is void if silicone fluid is used.' </span><snip> perhaps=
you could be more informative and say which new master cylinders have this=
slippery warranty avoiding comment? It would appear to be a very poo=
r quality master cylinder that can't use it and I wouldn't like to avoid us=
ing such dung forged cr*p.</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460963804896_=
11697" dir=3D"ltr">However, if the master cylinders are to be used with an =
ABS system this would be right as silicone viscosity is such that ABS strug=
gles to cope with the restitution phases at 32hz plus. </div><div id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460963804896_11697" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D=
"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460963804896_11697" dir=3D"ltr">A master cylinder is a =
pump, plain and simple. If they are not pumping they are faulty. &nbs=
p;If they have been just been re-sealed by one person there can be a proble=
m in how the seals are located or positioned and if it is happening to both=
master cylinders it would suggest something as drastic as having the main =
seals the wrong way round! The limiting pressure in the clutch may su=
pport this thought. Without more information it is hard to comment.</=
div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460963804896_11697" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div=
><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460963804896_11697" dir=3D"ltr">Guy R Day</d=
iv><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460963804896_11697" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div>=
<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460963804896_11697" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><di=
v id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460963804896_11697" dir=3D"ltr"> </di=
v><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460963804896_11697" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div> =
<div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class=3D"yahoo_quoted" styl=
e=3D"display: block;"> <div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica =
Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div =
style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Luci=
da Grande, Sans-Serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"><font size=3D"2"=
face=3D"Arial"> On Monday, 18 April 2016, 2:13, Rick Fisk via Spridgets &l=
t;spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:<br></font></div> <br><br> <div class=
=3D"y_msg_container"><div id=3D"yiv4594770969"><div><div>Hi Bob,</div><div>=
<br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Everyone else must be out driving their cars.=
Or out in the garage working on them. :-)</div><div><br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div>I would not bother trying to rebuild the master cylind=
ers. Replace them with new components. Much less hassle and a b=
etter chance of success. You've already replaced the Bugeye stuff wit=
h later components so you don't have to worry about originality.</div><div>=
<br clear=3D"none"></div><div>That said, I would also use regular brake flu=
id. I've never cared for the silicone stuff. And I've heard tha=
t some of the currently available new master cylinders come with a proviso =
in their warranty stating that the warranty is void if silicone fluid is us=
ed.</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Rick<br clear=3D"none"><br clea=
r=3D"none">Sent from my keyboard</div><div class=3D"yiv4594770969yqt3604376=
065" id=3D"yiv4594770969yqt85583"><div><br clear=3D"none">On Apr 17, 2016, =
at 4:19 PM, Bob Kitterer via Spridgets <<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rec=
t" ymailto=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"ma=
ilto:spridgets@autox.team.net">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br c=
lear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div></div=
></blockquote></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv4594770969yqt3604376065" id=
=3D"yiv4594770969yqt76619"><div>OK, I am at my wits end tiring to get the h=
ydraulics to work. So who / where should I go to get the master cylin=
ders rebuilt which may mean reboring. I have separate masters for the=
brakes and the clutch, early Sprite MK IV. Also am using silicon bra=
ke fluid.</div><div id=3D"yiv4594770969AppleMailSignature"><br clear=3D"non=
e"></div><div id=3D"yiv4594770969AppleMailSignature">Recently honed and put=
new seals in both masters, brake and slave cylinders and disk calipers. &n=
bsp;Am getting no fluid movement in the brakes. Have fluid in the clu=
tch slave but not enough pressure to move the slave cylinder. The clu=
tch slave has Gerard's remote bleed valve an fluid moves through this valve=
with no air.</div><div id=3D"yiv4594770969AppleMailSignature"><br clear=3D=
"none"></div><div id=3D"yiv4594770969AppleMailSignature"><br clear=3D"none"=
></div><div id=3D"yiv4594770969AppleMailSignature"><span style=3D"">Bob &nb=
sp;Kitterer</span><div><span style=3D"font-size:13pt;"><br clear=3D"none"><=
/span></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:13pt;">1960 Austin Healey Sprite&=
nbsp;(Mk IV in disguise)</span></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:13pt;">1=
966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes</span></div>=
<div><span style=3D"font-size:13pt;">2013 Miata</span></div><div><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:13pt;"><br clear=3D"none"></span></div><div><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:13pt;">Pay it Forward</span></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:13=
pt;">Thanks Frank</span><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div></div><=
/div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><span>------------------------</span><b=
r clear=3D"none"><span></span><br clear=3D"none"><span><a rel=3D"nofollow" =
shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank=
" href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net";>spridgets@autox.team.net</a></sp=
an><br clear=3D"none"><span></span><br clear=3D"none"><span>Donate: <a rel=
=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.team.net/=
donate.html">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a></span><br clear=3D"none"><=
span>Suggested annual donation: $12.75</span><br clear=3D"none"><span></spa=
n><br clear=3D"none"><span>Archive: <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" targ=
et=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.team.net/archive";>http://www.team.net/arch=
ive</a></span><br clear=3D"none"><span>Forums: <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D=
"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.team.net/forums";>http://www.tea=
m.net/forums</a></span><br clear=3D"none"><span>Unsubscribe/Manage: <a rel=
=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://autox.team.ne=
t/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk@chartermi.net">http://autox.team.net/mai=
lman/options/spridgets/refisk@chartermi.net</a></span><br clear=3D"none"></=
div></blockquote></div></div><br><div class=3D"yqt3604376065" id=3D"yqt0636=
0">------------------------<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><a shape=
=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net"; href=3D"mailto:spridg=
ets@autox.team.net">spridgets@autox.team.net</a><br clear=3D"none"><br clea=
r=3D"none">Donate: <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"http://www.team.net/donate.htm=
l" target=3D"_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br clear=3D"none">=
ive: <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"http://www.team.net/archive"; target=3D"_blan=
k">http://www.team.net/archive</a><br clear=3D"none">Forums: <a shape=3D"re=
ct" href=3D"http://www.team.net/forums"; target=3D"_blank">http://www.team.n=
et/forums</a><br clear=3D"none">Unsubscribe/Manage: <a shape=3D"rect" href=
=3D"http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday@btinternet.com"; t=
arget=3D"_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday@btin=
ternet.com</a><br clear=3D"none"></div><br><br></div> </div> </div> </div=
></div></body></html>
------=_Part_3486637_1312156570.1460966610724--
--===============0906875683113667408==
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline
------------------------
spridgets@autox.team.net
Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
--===============0906875683113667408==--
|