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Re: [Spridgets] HIF6 Problem

Subject: Re: [Spridgets] HIF6 Problem
From: brian via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2019 09:38:03 -0700
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You might have had a stuck needle. Was there any gas in it when you took it
off?
Brian

On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 9:32 AM Michael MacLean via Spridgets <
spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:

>      Removed the HIF6 carb yesterday and took it to David Anton at APT.
> He's only five miles away and he sold me the carb anyway.  Well, David is
> in England visiting family, so I took the carb home and decided to take it
> apart myself again.  I had just rebuilt it before this with a new needle
> and seat and a new bottom seal.  I had also adjusted the float before
> putting it back together.
>      I put it back together again after finding nothing wrong with it.
> When I reinstalled it, the car started right up.  Don't ask me what is
> different.  Nothing as far as I can see, but I must have done something
> wrong in the reassembly the first time.  As an aside I did find out the
> rubber connectors on both ends of the vacuum advance line from the carb to
> the vacuum unit on the distributor were toast.  They were all dried out and
> cracked, so there was no advance in the timing at the higher RPMs.  Things
> happen for a reason I guess.
>      Yes I had drained the old gas and put fresh gas in the tank before
> the first rebuild of a couple of weeks ago.  Now I can proceed with the
> front end alignment.  (I just reconditioned the suspension, brakes and
> steering. It's been 20 years since the restoration)  Also have to drain and
> refill the Datsun transmission with Redline MT-90.  An oil change and a
> valve adjustment are also needed.  Let's hope the rear axle seal doesn't
> leak this time.  Being retired is beginning to feel like work.  I guess I
> missed British Car week too.  Thanks all for the input.  Should Have known
> it was probably my ham handed mechanical repair.
> Mike M.
>
> On Tuesday, June 4, 2019, 8:58:20 AM PDT, CosmicMag1380 <
> cosmicmag1380@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Mike,
>
> Did you drain the old fuel out and put fresh gas in? The ethanol fuels
> separate out and the heavy gunk that settles on the bottom does not burn!
> Since it is at the bottom of the tank where the pickup is, it may have been
> sucked through and stalled your engine.
>
> Kent
>
> On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 4:52 PM rrengineer.mike via Spridgets <
> spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
> As some of you know I just rebuilt the entire suspension, steering and
> brakes on my Bugeye.  Because of this the ethanol in the gas gummed up the
> workings of my single HIF6 carb, so I rebuilt it with a new viton tipped
> needle and bottom seal angle cleaned the insides out of the ethanol
> residue.  Yesterday I started the car up and it ran better than ever for
> about a minute and quit.  It would not start after that.  I checked for
> spark,  yes.  I checked for fuel flow to the carb, yes.  It has to be the
> carb.  I have it off the car now and I am taking it apart.  Any ideas of
> what I should be looking for?
> Mike MacLean
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">You might have had a stuck needle. Was there any gas in it=
 when you took it off?=C2=A0<br>Brian</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><=
div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 9:32 AM Michael=
 MacLean via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net";>spri=
dgets@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quo=
te" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204=
);padding-left:1ex"><div><div class=3D"gmail-m_8352280637078737869ydp348b1d=
f3yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:&quot;times new roman&quot;,&quot;=
new york&quot;,times,serif;font-size:16px"><div></div>
        <div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Removed the HIF6 carb yesterday and t=
ook it to David Anton at APT.=C2=A0 He&#39;s only five miles away and he so=
ld me the carb anyway.=C2=A0 Well, David is in England visiting family, so =
I took the carb home and decided to take it apart myself again.=C2=A0 I had=
 just rebuilt it before this with a new needle and seat and a new bottom se=
al.=C2=A0 I had also adjusted the float before putting it back together.=C2=
=A0 <br></div><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I put it back together again af=
ter finding nothing wrong with it.=C2=A0 When I reinstalled it, the car sta=
rted right up.=C2=A0 Don&#39;t ask me what is different.=C2=A0 Nothing as f=
ar as I can see, but I must have done something wrong in the reassembly the=
 first time.=C2=A0 As an aside I did find out the rubber connectors on both=
 ends of the vacuum advance line from the carb to the vacuum unit on the di=
stributor were toast.=C2=A0 They were all dried out and cracked, so there w=
as no advance in the timing at the higher RPMs.=C2=A0 Things happen for a r=
eason I guess.<br></div><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Yes I had drained the=
 old gas and put fresh gas in the tank before the first rebuild of a couple=
 of weeks ago.=C2=A0 Now I can proceed with the front end alignment.=C2=A0 =
(I just reconditioned the suspension, brakes and steering. It&#39;s been 20=
 years since the restoration)=C2=A0 Also have to drain and refill the Datsu=
n transmission with Redline MT-90.=C2=A0 An oil change and a valve adjustme=
nt are also needed.=C2=A0 Let&#39;s hope the rear axle seal doesn&#39;t lea=
k this time.=C2=A0 Being retired is beginning to feel like work.=C2=A0 I gu=
ess I missed British Car week too.=C2=A0 Thanks all for the input.=C2=A0 Sh=
ould Have known it was probably my ham handed mechanical repair.<br></div><=
div>Mike M.<br></div><div><br></div>
       =20
        </div><div id=3D"gmail-m_8352280637078737869yahoo_quoted_0130233593=
" class=3D"gmail-m_8352280637078737869yahoo_quoted">
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Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(38,40,42)">
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                <div>
                    On Tuesday, June 4, 2019, 8:58:20 AM PDT, CosmicMag1380=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:cosmicmag1380@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">cosmicmag=
1380@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"gmail-m_8352280637078737869yiv5211577419"><=
div dir=3D"ltr">Mike,<div><br></div><div>Did you drain the old fuel out and=
 put fresh gas in? The ethanol fuels separate out and the heavy gunk that s=
ettles on the bottom does not burn! Since it is at the bottom of the tank w=
here the pickup is, it may have been sucked through and stalled your engine=
.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Kent</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail-m_=
8352280637078737869yiv5211577419gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmai=
l-m_8352280637078737869yiv5211577419gmail_attr">On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 4:52=
 PM rrengineer.mike via Spridgets &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" href=3D"mailto:sp=
ridgets@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail-m_8352280637078737869yiv52115774=
19gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(=
204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div><br></div><div><font face=3D"sans-=
serif">As some of you know I just rebuilt the entire suspension, steering a=
nd brakes on my Bugeye.=C2=A0 Because of this the ethanol in the gas gummed=
 up the workings of my single HIF6 carb, so I rebuilt it with a new viton t=
ipped needle and bottom seal angle cleaned the insides out of the ethanol r=
esidue.=C2=A0 Yesterday I started the car up and it ran better than ever fo=
r about a minute and quit.=C2=A0 It would not start after that.=C2=A0 I che=
cked for spark,=C2=A0 yes.=C2=A0 I checked for fuel flow to the carb, yes.=
=C2=A0 It has to be the carb.=C2=A0 I have it off the car now and I am taki=
ng it apart.=C2=A0 Any ideas of what I should be looking for?</font></div><=
div><font face=3D"sans-serif">Mike MacLean</font></div><div><br></div><div>=
<br></div><div id=3D"gmail-m_8352280637078737869yiv5211577419gmail-m_-61791=
59430077733916composer_signature"><div style=3D"font-size:85%;color:rgb(87,=
87,87)">Sent from my Samsung Galaxy , an AT&amp;T LTE smartphone</div></div=
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